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Where is Duncan? We can't win without that Duncan
One thing I've been noticing this season in the first six games, is how familiar the team is this year. This group of players reminds me of the depth we had when we won the le in 02'-03'. Position by position, you have the similiar skill sets, all across the board. Here's the notable players playing familiar roles.
Parker as himself. Averaging more assists at this point though. Also in his prime now, which means good things.
Tim Duncan as David Robinson. Quiet leader. Letting the younger guys dominate the offense, but answering when his number is called. Can put up solid numbers any day of the week still, but knows he can allow the other guys to play their game, and let the offense come to him.
DeJuan Blair as Malik. Hustling, rebounding, putting his body on guys, and giving us six fouls to use against the better centers/power forwards (Gasol) out there. His patience is no where near what Malik's was, but Pop is not gonna put up with him rushing his shots for long. He will improve.
George Hill playing the role Speedy played as the quick, shifty backup PG, except with more wingspan, and better defense. George is in a shooting slump, but I'm confident he will come around well before playoff time.
James Anderson as Stephen Jackson, shooting the 3, defending, with the ability to drive and create his own shot. Main difference I see between the two is Jackson's demeanor, and the ability to split the double team and set up other players like Jack would.
McDyess as Kevin Willis coming off the bench, rebounding, providing experience, and toughness. His elbow jumper is lethal which gives him the huge advantage over Willis. Not to mention Willis was known for his "T-Rex" arms.
Gary Neal as Steve Kerr. Comes in with one purpose. Shoot the ball.
Bonner as Danny Ferry. Now that we have the depth to slide Bonner down to the bottom half of the rotation, he now plays the role Ferry would. 6'10" forward who cant defend, but will occasionally heat up and have a good multiple 3 game. Pretty sure both would take a beating from Camby as well.
Splitter as Ginobili. Comes in as the well decorated, experienced rookie from overseas, who was the MVP of the Euroleague, and lead his team to the championship as well. Ginobili had one year on him, as he came in at 26 as a rookie.Splitter also will be given time to ease himself into the starting role as Ginobili did before him. Manu averaged in his rookie season, 7.6 PPG in 20 mins of action, and Splitter's production is about the same if you doubled his minutes currently at 3.7 PPG in about 12 minutes.
Chris Quinn as Meng Bateer. Nah just kidding. But both are equally crappy.
Biggest differences from the two squads would definitely be the added dimension we now have with the emergence of Jefferson, and the leadership of Manu.
I know it's premature, but if he continues with the hot corner shooting, we get the offensive perk of Bowen, with the ability to put the ball on the floor and finish. His defense is nowhere near the 02' Bowen, but he has decent lateral movement for 30. If he is gonna average 20 a game for us we can find a stopper elsewhere. He makes us a big four, and right now that would be ahead of the game, as the majority of contenders are now built around their version of "The Big Three".
Other big difference is Ginobili playing some of the best basketball as a Spur. He's averaging a career best in PPG this year at over 21. We won in 07' off sixteen a game from him and 18.6 from Tony. Tony will probably average closer to sixteen this year, so It's similiar production, in switched roles. Who knows, Parker could go on a tear and boost his PPG and have both averaging over 18. There's definitely alot of firepower on this team. All in all, extremely pleased with the depth, and offensive side of the ball. The defense will come, players WILL buy into Pop's system, and it will click as a unit.
And as the team before them in 02', watch these guy's become a well oiled machine come Rodeo road trip time. Here's to a great season, can't wait to see these players and this team develop.
Where is Duncan? We can't win without that Duncan
So James Anderson gets sent to FA and Duncan retires after this?
We dont have a Duncan this year. Just those games where he's vintage Timmy, for the most part we pick up the slack with well rounded scoring.
lol wtf?
yes exactly.So James Anderson gets sent to FA and Duncan retires after this?
I think Manu is more of the SJax role
who is this season's anthony goldwire? you didn't factor that into your equation, didn't you?
How so? SJAX was never the focal point of the offense, nor was he the closer.
So we have no duncan, and two ginobilies plus a jefferson... mmm...
not that similar i think.
Read it again genius, its a comparison of roles on that team, not the team itself. Didn't notice the fact I had a center playing the Manu role?
You have proven how inferior the 2011 team is if anything. In your comparison-
2003 Spurs without Duncan= 2011 Spurs
The 2003 Spurs without Duncan are a 1st rounf playoff team at best.
not at all, I'm still very aware of the length of the season, and the Western Conference bracket of that awaits. Just exciting to watch the development of this team.
I see your point
We have added a lot of, young promising players but Duncan was by far the MVP in 2003
He is not the same player anymore
Frankly not a good comparison. Not only many of your pairings are almost the opposite but where is 03 Duncan in this team? You can't say 2 teams look alike if you leave out the equivalence of the best player/season of the decade.
Yeah I should have labeled Duncan as a dual role of himself and Robinson as people are reading it as there is "no duncan role on this team". Thats not how I meant it. Just comparing the way Duncan is allowing younger players to grow. Duncan is his old self when needed, but six games in we have shown to be a well rounded offense, with several options.
Tim ain't David Robinson. Even the 2003 version of DRob isn't close to the 2010-2011 version of TD. David was pretty much just a solid defender with killer knowledge of the rotations and enough mobility to cover any perimeter mistakes.
Steve Kerr barely played. Except for that series against Dallas, Steve was what you would call a situation player. KWill, same thing but he did use his fouls well and was good for a putback or two despite the T-Rex arms.
Where is your Bruce Bowen? The Spurs need a BONAFIDE stopper to make their championship dreams more reachable. It ain't impossible for them to win without one but having one would be so, so nice when it counts most.
So... your saying this is the 2002-2003 Spurs minus League and Finals MVP Tim Duncan?
thread fails
We don't have one at this point. I guess James could develop into one. He has the size.
Ok. Thread fails. So on a different note, who's picking up Black Op's at midnight?
yup!!! just getting on here before i go, can't wait!!!
There might not be a good direct overall correlation between the players, but I will say so far, the youth and depth of this team appears to be the closest we've been to matching the 02-03 team. Of course, only time will tell.
I actually think your read was quite interesting. It's a better thread than 3/4 of the I sit here and sift through day to day.
You acknowledged it was still early in the season. Not a bad take imo.
Spurstalk's just filled with assholes.
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