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    The GOP may bail them out again, but I bet you
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    the Dems hold their hands and do it with them. Again.

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    No, I'm saying is dumb to be complaining they don't have a plan, when no-one has a plan before they take office. A lot of that is because the people drafting the platform don't necessarily have all the information, and part of that is because you don't know how much compromising you are going to have to do.

    If someone gave you a detailed 10 point plan to accomplish X and you voted for them, but then they had to compromise on 8/10 points, what was the point of giving you the plan?

    I guarantee the Republican plan would be different if they had taken over the Senate as well as the House, probably vastly so. There is no way to get into details on your stated goals without it blowing up in your face.
    So... on what basis did you vote for Republicans (presumably)? The promise of fiscal conservatism?

    I voted for them on those grounds until I realized they were as clueless and morally bankrupt as Democrats. There just hasn't been leadership in the GOP to defend the the assertion that they would be fiscal conservatives under the right conditions.

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    Right here in TX, we'll see how "fiscal conservatism" (aka the poor, the blacks, the browns, the sick, the old, and children) plays out.

    After all it's Perry's fiscal conservatism that gave us a $20B deficit, the same horror as Texas-hated California.

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/Sch...106936843.html

    It's absolutely sure that individuals will be screwed, oops! sorry, will be ed, while corporations continue to be coddled and subsidized.

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    So... on what basis did you vote for Republicans (presumably)? The promise of fiscal conservatism?

    I voted for them on those grounds until I realized they were as clueless and morally bankrupt as Democrats. There just hasn't been leadership in the GOP to defend the the assertion that they would be fiscal conservatives under the right conditions.
    I don't vote party, I vote candidate.

    This year I didn't vote because I didn't have time to research the candidates. I do normally lean Republican (or Libertarian if the candidate isn't a sexist wackjob like they usually are) at the national level, mostly because I believe a large federal government is grossly inefficient.

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    I don't vote party, I vote candidate.

    This year I didn't vote because I didn't have time to research the candidates. I do normally lean Republican (or Libertarian if the candidate isn't a sexist wackjob like they usually are) at the national level, mostly because I believe a large federal government is grossly inefficient.
    Wish more people felt the way you do, man.

    And I don't disagree with your last statement, just with the idea that any candidate who has been winnowed up to the Congressional (and up) level is incapable of -- or unwilling to -- make the government smaller. Especially in times of economic moribundity.

    It's easy to pick out the candidates who do represent a threat to the status quo because they are roundly mocked in the media on both sides of the ideological fence.

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