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    I do love me a rumor.

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    I'm with mountainballer on the rationale, and it'd be a no-brainer if 'Dyess will inevitably be bought out.

    The comparisons between Splitter and Varejao are fair, to a degree.

    I've mentioned in the past that Splitter is the white-collar player to Varejao's blue. He's a more talented player, as in he's got more offensive skill, but Varejao has that get-under-the-skin grit and reckless abandon to do the dirty work on another level -- he's also a little quicker and lighter on the feet mobility-wise (not that Splitter's immobile or a slouch).

    Varejao's an established top of the line frontcourt defender, so he obviously helps in that aspect more now than Splitter could. All players new to the league have to establish a rapport with the officials and an understanding of what they can and can't do or get away with.

    And if you're looking at a post Duncan era, one in which the team will be revolving around Parker (most likely), you've gotta pay someone. And if they find themselves paying two players like Splitter and Varejao a combined total that's less than or equal to what Duncan's been getting paid individually, doesn't seem that much of a stretch to do.

    I'd really feel bad if 'Dyess didn't finish his career in SA, though. In the unlikely event this does actually happen, I really hope he finds his way back to the Spurs after a buyout.

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    keep blair, don't trade him.

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    If the spurs could manage to find a trade package involving Bonner and/or Blair for Varejao then I think that could put them in that top tier. Having 4 big men who can defend well is exactly what this team needs to go up against LA. What we have now at the 4/5 only amounts to a little more than a shot in the dark of being able to stay in front of, and out work Odom/Gasol/Bynum on the boards.

    I agree and I wish the Spurs could pry Darko from the Twolves for Bonner which would be great too

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    Varejao would be an amazing fit for the Spurs..

    He's one of the best defenders in the NBA, and more importantly, he would fill a need defensively..while a lot of people here seem to want big C/shot blockers, there's a good chance that a guy like that wouldn't fit..Duncan isn't mobile enough to guard PFs anymore, he primarily guards C and the rim..the Spurs need a big man that can defend the pick and roll and defend mobile big men in the 15-foot area to the rim..

    Varejao is very mobile, he would add some speed to the frontcourt..he also brings a lot of energy, which the Spurs lack..offensively, he's one of the best big men at slashing to the basket, which would obviously be useful on a team with passers like Parker and Ginobili..

    Having Splitter is nice, but Varejao is obviously more established..what's wrong with having depth?..his contract would be the only issue..if the Cavs wanted Blair, it's a no-brainer..McDyess as well..the financial part would be the only question..

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    I would like Andy, but giving up Dice and Blair? That is too much imo. Especially if this early season Dice is the Dice we are going to get all year.

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    i don't see this happening.

    1. getting varejao would probably put the spurs over the luxury tax because they are currently just scraping the bottom of the luxury line.
    2. would require trading mcdyess and blair. blair currently wouldn't be much of a loss especially if the spurs get a big like varejao back. but mcdyess provides spacing with his reliable jumper, rebounds well, and plays veteran defense. mcdyess is too much of an asset to give away right now for varejao.

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    Yet no one has said anything about wearing the Varejo wig to the game. I would rock the wig at the games.


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    He has no offensive skills whatsoever. No thanks.

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    He has no offensive skills whatsoever. No thanks.

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    He has no offensive skills whatsoever. No thanks.
    who ing gives a we need his defense not his offense...and he is not totally inept on offense

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    For right now, I would definitely do a Varejao for Blair swap.

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    I wouldn't give up Dice though.

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    I wouldn't give up both Dyess and Blair, I was just saying..

    I'm a big fan of Dice, so I don't know if I'd do it, but I just love Andy's game, and I think he would be perfect for the Spurs..

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    I agree, but it is virtually impossible trade wise.

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    Oh, I don't expect to get him, I actually didn't even read the OP, I just saw his name and looked at some comments..

    Way too early for trade talk anyways..

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    Trade bonner + gee + picks? No way the spurs trade blair or dice. Please.

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    I would love to see Varejao in the silver and black that guy is all energy and hustle.

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    Varejao would be an amazing fit for the Spurs..

    He's one of the best defenders in the NBA, and more importantly, he would fill a need defensively..while a lot of people here seem to want big C/shot blockers, there's a good chance that a guy like that wouldn't fit..Duncan isn't mobile enough to guard PFs anymore, he primarily guards C and the rim..the Spurs need a big man that can defend the pick and roll and defend mobile big men in the 15-foot area to the rim..

    Varejao is very mobile, he would add some speed to the frontcourt..he also brings a lot of energy, which the Spurs lack..offensively, he's one of the best big men at slashing to the basket, which would obviously be useful on a team with passers like Parker and Ginobili..

    Having Splitter is nice, but Varejao is obviously more established..what's wrong with having depth?..his contract would be the only issue..if the Cavs wanted Blair, it's a no-brainer..McDyess as well..the financial part would be the only question..
    Harlem, once more breaking ST rules!
    to many reasonable points for one post.

    btw. Varejao's offense. people look at his stats and his reputation as a hustle player and automatically conclude: no offense game whatsover.
    which is wrong.
    I don't want to claim he will be mistaken with Dirk anytime soon. but he definitely does have more potential on offense than given credit. playing alongside a 30 PPG scorer on the other forward spot for his whole career and usually paired with a scoring big (Z, Gooden, Shaq, Jamison) naturally limits the options to catch the attention on offense. but what he does, he does quite efficient and outside shooting he can score in different ways. it's not that he was just another Jeff Foster on offense. (for some teams he likely could have averaged about 12PPG.)

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    Harlem, once more breaking ST rules!
    to many reasonable points for one post.

    btw. Varejao's offense. people look at his stats and his reputation as a hustle player and automatically conclude: no offense game whatsover.
    which is wrong.
    I don't want to claim he will be mistaken with Dirk anytime soon. but he definitely does have more potential on offense than given credit. playing alongside a 30 PPG scorer on the other forward spot for his whole career and usually paired with a scoring big (Z, Gooden, Shaq, Jamison) naturally limits the options to catch the attention on offense. but what he does, he does quite efficient and outside shooting he can score in different ways. it's not that he was just another Jeff Foster on offense. (for some teams he likely could have averaged about 12PPG.)
    dammit i know Harlem you pretty much persuaded me with those very strong points. im thinking with my heart though and i think even the spurs F.O is at this point. when it comes to antonio mcdyess's retirement of course if they waive him it'll be a no brainer! however they probably wouldnt seeing that the cavs are coached by byron scott but i guess ya never know !!??
    and yeah the more i think about andys 6'11'' defense the more i want the guy! if we had splitter and varejao whoooo that would be some damn defense down low my friend

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    I agree and I wish the Spurs could pry Darko from the Twolves for Bonner which would be great too
    Well after last night it would take more than a prying attempt.

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    Funny how before he signed, all spurs fans were yapping about was how Splitter was going to be the next Varajao on 'roids, and now that he's here, all they talk about is trading for Varajao.

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    Funny how before he signed, all spurs fans were yapping about was how Splitter was going to be the next Varajao on 'roids, and now that he's here, all they talk about is trading for Varajao.

    true true but its kind of grey seeing how pop sits him out for games at a time to never get in any sort of damn rhythm, and he is a better andy he just needs to play more ya know?

    i mean ive never heard of bench stats, although i think if anyone would get em it would be bonner ha jk tiago will be that guy, he just needs to play

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    I wouldn't give up both Dyess and Blair, I was just saying..

    I'm a big fan of Dice, so I don't know if I'd do it, but I just love Andy's game, and I think he would be perfect for the Spurs..

    The thing is you know what you lose with McDyess (reliable mid range JS, high IQ, spurs system knowlegdge, great teamate, great hustle...) and you don't know what you'll get (for sure) from Andy, except the hustle...

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    Yeah losing Blair would be hard, but a bigger guy like Varejao would be nice.

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