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Lebron should of went to Chicago or New Jersey. I bet he already regrets his decision.
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Their offense was limited to LeHype ball. No way around that. Defensively, they made strides. But you gotta get stops. LeHype ball most of the time took them out of defensive position to make stops when LeHype went to the hole and missed or kicked out to a shooter camped out on the 3pt line who also missed. What happened after that? Run outs by the opposition leading to easy scores. What else happened? Strong halfcourt defense that didn't leave shooters open and let LeHype get his stats. We saw it last night and we've seen it for 7 years, and 9 games so far. He scored 35 points in yet another almost triple double. But what about the impact it had on DWhistle (2-12 - more on that later) and RuPaul (a deceiving 6-10 and no defensive impact)? Problem is, when he has it going his teammates watch instead of joining in.What?..that wasn't the problem with Mike Brown at all..
Most NBA coaches are mediocre coaches to begin with..NBA assistant coaches are usually good at one facet of the game..Mike Brown, like Spoelstra, is a great defensive coach with extreme limitations on the offensive end..his flaws as a coach were exploited during the playoffs, where his rotations vs. Boston were horrible and he had no ability to adjust(just like the series vs. Orlando the year before)..he also had very little ability to call plays..
Miami's current offense is the same offense they've been running under Spoelstra before Lebron got there..the only difference is that instead of running iso plays for Wade all game, they run them for Lebron AND Wade now..
There are only 4-5 good coaches in the NBA..the rest of them hurt their teams, for the most part..
Speaking of DWhistle. In two games against the Celtics D, he has gone:
- 4-16 with 6 turnovers
- 2-12 with 6 more turnovers
The results? TWO convincing losses. Now I'm not the smartest dude, but that's 6/28 which is worst than 6/24. Just saying.
and yeah, i dont give a if he plays for my heat. i call out lebron, wade or anyone the same way.
Wade dominated in the playoff series vs Boston last season. Shot above 50% if I recall correctly.
Miami hasn't been playing "LeHype" ball this season, in the way that you're saying it..the only games where Lebron has controlled the ball the majority of the game have been the Boston games, primarily due to Wade's struggles..
Miami's offense has been equally shared by Lebron and Wade, with Lebron playing PG and Wade being the primary scorer..they haven't had any problems playing together, they're actually the only reason Miami is in games..
I've never disagreed that the playing style of Lebron dominating the ball and dishing it out won't work..I've never been a huge fan of "Lebron ball"..when Lebron plays off the ball, which he did more last year, he's still a dominant player..my point is that Mike Brown had no ability to run an offense, and neither does Spoelstra, so I don't know why you're bringing those points up..
Spoelstra had the same offensive problems before Lebron joined the team..the iso plays are the only offensive he ever runs, with occasional pick and pops/pick and rolls..
Being a good defensive coach is fine, but when you meet other elite teams, your flaws are obviously exploited..
Miami has 2 of the best athletes in NBA history on the wings, but they don't use their strengths..they don't do anything to get Bosh going..they don't play Lebron off the ball at all, even though Wade is a good passer..they rarely play Wade off the ball, even though he's one of the best in the NBA at moving without the ball..
The only adjustment Mike Brown ever made was when he added the Mo Williams slash with Lebron cutting down the middle for a dunk, that was pretty much his only designed play..
Last season...was last season. Isn't that the new NBA slogan on a commercial?
No, you are right. But he isn't playing with the same personnel. He is not "the man" on the Hype no more. This is LeHype's team now and he must bow down to the King in the King's offense. If the stats say he was 6/28 against a defensive monster, he is what he is. Stats don't lie. If Kobe can be roasted so can DWhistle.
What does Wade playing in regular season games have to do with Kobe's performance in the biggest game of his career?..
I love how you spin that . Coach Pop is no offensive genius either. Yet the Spurs haven't gone lottery while he was a coach. He is defensive minded to the core. If you don't play defense he will ship your ass out.
That being said, you don't need an offensive guru to get it done or Coach Pringles would have had multiple rings by now and still be coaching the Suns. Mike Brown and Eric Spoelstra are good coaches. But unless the front office back guys like these up when trying to reign in their star they will get canned.
Look at the Lakers. They don't have a spectacular offense. Neither does Utah. What they do have is good coaches that have the backing of their front office to make the tough decisions if need be.
The Cavs (and now, the Hype) don't have that because no one seemingly is willing to step up to LeHype and reign his immature ass in. Unless Riley does it, that will be their downfall. Not because Spoelstra don't know X's and O's on the offensive side of the ball. The Hype's problems run deeper than that.
If Riley wants to win ring #7, he better reign in #6.
Everything. Literally.
Kobe has struggled in the Finals because teams in the East play defense. Sans the NJ Nets, 6ers and Pacers, the Celtics of 2008 and the Pistons of 2004 were two of the greatest defensive teams in NBA Finals history. Just like the Celtics made Kobe struggle, they did the same thing to DWhistle in these first two games of the season. This occurred both times with LeHype as his teammate - no less. You would think he would have had it easier but he didn't.
These two games have shown that Kobe's 6/24 would happen to any SG that plays Boston. Kobe's injuries, which were well do ented, required surgery, and he has painful arthritis on his index finger that he will have to play with the rest of his career. But all of this is dismissed by every fan base that hates Kobe and or the Lakers. Then when these same fan bases see DWhistle shoot horribly - despite being 100% healthy and well rested - gives him a pass. Hypocrites.
LMAO, the Lakers and the Jazz run the two most successful offenses in the history of the NBA.
The offense is at issue here, not just the defense or rotations or the personnel on the roster. The halfcourt offense suffers from stagnation from isolation plays. There's very little ball movement, and not enough pick-and-roll plays to keep guys like Bosh and even Udonis Haslem involved on offense. Even when other players get touches, it's generally out of kickouts after stalled drives to the basket out of isolation plays. That's not how you run an offense in the NBA. Defense may win championships, but you do need reliability and dependability at the offensive end that comes from something other than just individually "out-quicking and out-muscling and out-jumping" the opponents to the rim.
- First of all, comparing Pop to any mediocre coach is just ridiculous..Pop is a great offensive coach..he's arguably the best x's and o's head coach in the NBA, he calls great plays and runs a good system..
Only twice, in the Pop-Duncan era, did the Spurs' offense finish below the league average offense in the playoffs..they were in the top 3 3 times, and the top 5 5 times..pretty good offense if you ask me..
The Cavs were better than the league average only once in the Mike Brown era during the playoffs, and they were below the top 10 3 times..
Spoelstra has made the playoffs twice, and the Heat were below average on offense both times, including being last place in the entire playoffs last year..so apparently, Spoelstra was an offensive genius before Lebron showed up, even though the Heat were a terrible offense team for 2 years in a row..
- Your D'Antoni point is exactly what I'm saying
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The Lakers offense was in the top 5 in every year where they past the 1st round, and they finished either #1 or #2 in every year they made the Finals..they've been in the top 4 in the last 2 years..
Good post. Agreed 100%. However, the coach need to have the power to accomplish the things you described above to achieve the necessary balance that championship teams need to win. Remember, it was PJ who took the ball out of MJ and Pippen's hands and made them run the triangle despite the fact that he could get 50 in his sleep along with Pippen's 25-30. It was also PJ who did the same with Shaq and Kobe who could combine for 80 on any given night. How did he get that done with 4 of the greatest talents in NBA history? Both the Bulls and Lakers FO backed him up. Until the Hype give whoever their coach is that type of backing, they won't win.
He should have stayed in Cleveland, with the emergence of JJ Hickson...who is better than Bosh's weak ass.
I see you are easily amused.
Since when was Pop an offensive genius? I never think that when I think of the Spurs. I think of defense.- First of all, comparing Pop to any mediocre coach is just ridiculous..Pop is a great offensive coach..he's arguably the best x's and o's head coach in the NBA, he calls great plays and runs a good system..
Only twice, in the Pop-Duncan era, did the Spurs' offense finish below the league average offense in the playoffs..they were in the top 3 3 times, and the top 5 5 times..pretty good offense if you ask me..
LeHype ball is not championship ball. Nuff said.The Cavs were better than the league average only once in the Mike Brown era during the playoffs, and they were below the top 10 3 times..
Spoelstra, an offensive genius? This is a joke, right? He's a defensive coach that had one good offensive player (DWhistle) and scrappy players that complimented him.Spoelstra has made the playoffs twice, and the Heat were below average on offense both times, including being last place in the entire playoffs last year..so apparently, Spoelstra was an offensive genius before Lebron showed up, even though the Heat were a terrible offense team for 2 years in a row..
Agreed. He also didn't have any players that were even willing to spell defense let along play it- Your D'Antoni point is exactly what I'm saying
Kobe said it himself that he thought the Lakers offense was boring. It is boring, but it is effective. And if you have the right talent assembled, you'll win with it.-
I never said the Lakers didn't have offensive talent. Pau's game compliments Kobe's probably more so than Shaq's did. The difference? Shaq was dominant when he was with the Lakers. Pau is more skilled than Shaq and allows our offense to be more dynamic than the Shaq/Kobe years.The Lakers offense was in the top 5 in every year where they past the 1st round, and they finished either #1 or #2 in every year they made the Finals..they've been in the top 4 in the last 2 years..
You are an idiot. I'm not comparing the coaching ability of Pop and Spoelstra or Brown. I'm saying that they all are defensive minded coaches first and foremost. The difference between the 3? Tim Duncan is a major one and the way their talent was assembled was another.
As far as your comment about Pop being an offensive genius, I say since when? I've seen the Lakers allow Timmy to get his and shut down his supporting cast. They were hardly an offensive juggernaut. It wasn't until they drafted little known (to me at least) Tony Parker and Manu did their offense do any damage. It's not like they averaged 110ppg either. They just played good defense which fueled their offense - at least in my opinion.
This is truth.com. He left a better supporting cast in Cleveland despite his two "superstar" teammates he has in South Beach. He will regret "The Decision" if he hasn't done so already.
Props for that and good spot to find that contradiction.
FWIW I think NBA players contradict themselves a lot, it's just that with all the hype the Big 3 put themselves under a huge microscope, so they're going to get called out a ton when things go sideways like they did last night.
They are under a tremendous amount of pressure... can't remember a team playing with that kind of pressure this early in the season since... I don't know, when Malone and Payton joined the Lakers? Jordan's first full season back after 1st retirement?
I really don't think that's a contradiction. After the Minnesota game Lebron said the three of them being compe ors would play 48 minutes "if they could". It doesn't mean he's saying that they CAN play 48 minutes.
couple things:
-people are underrating Mike Miller. his ability to space the floor and pass is being missed right now. he's 15 ppg and 4 assists that they're not getting.
-0/10 combined from 3 for DWade and Lebron. one of the questions going into the season is how would DWade and Lebron playoff of eachother. would they be able to hit the open shots when the defense gets sucked in? Mike Miller will help relieve some of this, but 0/10 is just pathetic. Lebron can't be hitting the side of the backboard and airballing threes if they want this thing to work b/w them. thye'll look good against teams and everyone will think they've gotten over the hump... but they are exposed against a team like Boston.
where is Bosh? he needs to play more inside and be a recipient to passes once Wade and Lebron colllapse the defense. he needs to ask for the ball more.
LeMoron is such a wimp. I love to hate this team. lol
I think Mike Miller does make a difference for the team's offense, but I don't think Mike Miller is the difference in winning any of the games the Heat have lost, maybe the Utah game.
Also something to consider. James Jones probably doesn't play 26 minutes a game when Mike Miller comes back. And he's averaging 10 PPG and is shooting 49% from three point range. Now Mike Miller does bring more to the table than shooting, as he's a good passer and Wade and LeBron and the rest of the team would probably trust him more making decisions. I also think he's a solid position rebounder.
But like I said, I don't think Mike Miller solves all their problems or changes the outcome of their losses with the possible exception of the Utah game.
This is something I had a big problem with last night. Eddie House was 2-for-2 last night and James Jones came into the game shooting over 50% from three point range. But Wade and LeBron took 5 threes each. Now sure they are the main guys and they will be entrusted to shoot the clutch three point shots a lot of the time. But if they're not hitting, they need to focus on getting Eddie House and James Jones good looks because that's exactly why they're on the team. They're the three point specialists. Give them half of those 10 missed three pointers Wade and LeBron took and maybe it's a different game towards the end of the fourth quarter.-0/10 combined from 3 for DWade and Lebron. one of the questions going into the season is how would DWade and Lebron playoff of eachother. would they be able to hit the open shots when the defense gets sucked in? Mike Miller will help relieve some of this, but 0/10 is just pathetic. Lebron can't be hitting the side of the backboard and airballing threes if they want this thing to work b/w them. thye'll look good against teams and everyone will think they've gotten over the hump... but they are exposed against a team like Boston.
Lost in the shuffle watching LeBron and Wade taking turns blackholing the ball. This is where Spoelstra deserves criticism. Put Chris Bosh in more pick-and-rolls and high post sets early on in the game to get him going. If Bosh has to resort to being a spot-up midrange shooter and an offensive rebounder, you'll see his effort and desire and focus continue to suffer. Let him be a part of the offense, not just a spectator of it.where is Bosh? he needs to play more inside and be a recipient to passes once Wade and Lebron colllapse the defense. he needs to ask for the ball more.
Only change I want is Head Coach.
Spo is a good defensive coach, but watching the offense is giving me flashbacks of Mike Brown.
This team is a historic assemblage of talent. I would like to see it used to it's max.
oh, and lol@ people saying the Heat just don't have the players to be good. 9 games is not a good enough sample size. They can be historically great..... but the offense is garbage right now and there is NO EXCUSE why a team with LeBron, Wade, and Bosh on it, with good 3pt shooters is struggling so ing hard to score points.
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