[Yahoo!] LeBron says he played too many minutes last night

[MiamiHeat]

also, the Heat have a horrible schedule.

on the road for the first 2 games of the season, 2 games vs Celtics, 1 against Magic, 1 against Utah, and 1 against undefeated Hornets.

Heat are trying to learn and gel while fighting really tough games, while the Lakers play at home every game and play ty compe ion.

Even the Celtics season opener in 2007 for the KG-Ray-Pierce Big 3 was against the Wizards at home, if I remember correctly.


Get your shots in now, haters. Get it while you still can

[MiamiHeat]

funny reading this thread

people want to act now like Bosh is some no name scrub LOL

its ok

[Def Rowe]

Well Spolestra doesn't look like he's having much fun.

And why does he part his hair on the back of his head?

[redzero]

i created a new youtube account and made this video in about 20 minutes

Your vid's gotten a respectable amount of views so far.

[LeHeat_Dynasty]

I think Lebron is echoing his concerns about Spoeltra's poor time management moreso than him actually complaining about playing too much minutes. It was a subtle jab but he made sure his message gets out there and quite frankly Spo is indeed not handling these existing issues properly. Granted, after Pat Riley used all his resources to sign three max players, Spo really doesn't have a lot of pieces to play with but I think his rotations and strategies are just aweful. I just dont think Spoelstra has what it takes to control a trio of exquisite and overlapping talents. He has three 1st options on the floor yet its not out of the ordinary to see Bosh as a mere walking, pop a mid range jumper $90 Million asset. Spo needs to start creating some plays for Bosh, run a two man game from time to time using either Wade or Lebron to feed Bosh. He simply can't let Wade and James take over and take 65% of the teams FG attempts every night.



The reason why the Celtics in 2007 was so successful was simply because Rivers persuaded his Big Three to give up the ball and have faith that it would come back to find them in better position to score or set up another teammate. KG, Pierce & Allen accepted that idea & embraced their new roles and everything just clicked. I just don't see that with the Heat right now, right now its either Wade's night or Lebron. Dwyane wants to be in command but I dont think Lebron is willing to follow as he said himself (I just don't defer) and why should he? Lebron is the better player and off to a fresh back to back MVP seasons.



Simply, it all comes down to this. Wade or Lebron must decide whose team is this. Sure on most nights there can be an Option 1A and Option 1B but in order for them to win a championship, one player must simply sacrifice his ego and allow that one player to call the shots.

[mavsfan1000]

I think Lebron is echoing his concerns about Spoeltra's poor time management moreso than him actually complaining about playing too much minutes. It was a subtle jab but he made sure his message gets out there and quite frankly Spo is indeed not handling these existing issues properly. Granted, after Pat Riley used all his resources to sign three max players, Spo really doesn't have a lot of pieces to play with but I think his rotations and strategies are just aweful. I just dont think Spoelstra has what it takes to control a trio of exquisite and overlapping talents. He has three 1st options on the floor yet its not out of the ordinary to see Bosh as a mere walking, pop a mid range jumper $90 Million asset. Spo needs to start creating some plays for Bosh, run a two man game from time to time using either Wade or Lebron to feed Bosh. He simply can't let Wade and James take over and take 65% of the teams FG attempts every night.


The reason why the Celtics in 2007 was so successful was simply because Rivers persuaded his Big Three to give up the ball and have faith that it would come back to find them in better position to score or set up another teammate. KG, Pierce & Allen accepted that idea & embraced their new roles and everything just clicked. I just don't see that with the Heat right now, right now its either Wade's night or Lebron. Dwyane wants to be in command but I dont think Lebron is willing to follow as he said himself (I just don't defer) and why should he? Lebron is the better player and off to a fresh back to back MVP seasons.



Simply, it all comes down to this. Wade or Lebron must decide whose team is this. Sure on most nights there can be an Option 1A and Option 1B but in order for them to win a championship, one player must simply sacrifice his ego and allow that one player to call the shots.

Rondo>>>Arrojo
Perkins>Ilgauskas. The Celtics had better supporting players than the Heat. Both offensively and defensively. And Bosh is an overrated player. His contract is a terrible deal unlike Wade and Lebron.

[Pelicans78]

Lebron definitely shouldn't have made this comments, but 44 minutes for an early regular season is a bit too much. The problem is, the Heat don't feel confident in the other guys around him. Even against the Hornets, Lebron played 42 minutes, Wade played 40 minutes while CP3 and Ariza played about 35 minutes, West played 28 minutes, and Okafor played 31 minutes.

[HarlemHeat37]

You also told us the Lakers should get Ben Gordon and Deng for Kobe..

[Zelophehad]

funny reading this thread

people want to act now like Bosh is some no name scrub LOL

its ok

lol poor man's Horace Grant

[Spurologist]

Has the bench really been one of the major problems though? Has it been great? No. But I don't see it as more of a problem than interior defense and the stagnant offense. Udonis Haslem, Eddie House, and James Jones are averaging 24 points, 12 rebounds, 3 assists on 47% FG shooting and 46% three point shooting. The bench is contributing.

It's the interior defense, transition defense in some of the losses, and the lack of a fluid and balanced halfcourt offense that is hurting them more than the lack of bench production.

I think someone mentioned the heat bench is 12th in the nba. That's fair. The defense in general, though, has been good enough to win games. They are in the middle of the pack in rebounding. That is decent considering the lack of depth at the big positions. Overall, they are a top 5 defensive team (points allowed) so I look at the performances down the stretch by the bench and I'm not impressed. The big 3 has played poorly in the clutch too but I look at players like Arroyo, Chalmers, House.....and they haven't made the best of their opportunities. It's hyperbole on my part with the bench so maybe I have an unfair bias against them. The bottomline is it's still still only November to be making any concrete conclusions about this heat team anyway.

[ducks]

do the heat with the three superstars have to many chiefs and not enough followers

[mavsfan1000]

do the heat with the three superstars have to many chiefs and not enough followers

They could get alot if they traded one of their big 3. They need quality role players. Not scrub role players.

[LkrFan]

And the plot thickens... now this clown is quoting Randy Moss:

"It got blew up out of proportion, saying that I told coach Spo [Erik Spoelstra] that he's playing me too much and he's a bad coach," James said before Miami's game Saturday against the visiting Toronto Raptors. "You kind of understand sometimes what Randy Moss was talking about when he said, 'I will not be answering any more questions.' Because every time I say something, it gets turned out of character."

He wasn't misquoted, or taken out of context. He threw his coach under the bus, period. I'm sure he doesn't see it that way though. What an asshat!

"We're on the same page about that," Spoelstra said of James' playing time. "He was supposed to come out early in the fourth quarter, but it was way too compe ive. He didn't want to come out. And every time he looked at the bench, I looked away."

It looks like Coach Spoelstra is between a rock and a hard place. He knows he needed LeHype out there but does NOT have the balls to tell him to STFU and play.

"You never want to get to a point where you say something, and it catches you from behind, or the coach says something and you say, 'Wow, I didn't know nothing about that,' " James said. "That's something that me and coach had talked about two days before the Boston game, and it's something we will figure out as a collective group. The open form of communication is always important in this game, because you don't want to get to a point where you're talking through the media."

Translation: In Cleveland, I used to tell everybody when to jump, how high, etc etc. I told the coach what the I want us to do, then he relays that info to the team - so they think he is in charge. I know I said my leadership won't let me defer, but it, I'm LeBron James .

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[SenorSpur]

LeQuit absolutely WAS NOT "misquoted" nor were his comments "taken out of character", as he calls it. It's just that, in his world and in his adolescent mind, he's never responsible for anything. The fact is he never should've called out his coach to begin with. The fact that he did was alarming and it garnered so much attention because that's not something any NBA superstar has done or would do. I'm surprised he didn't schedule another 30-minute special to update us all on the status of "The Decision".

Once again, LeQuit comes across like the petulant, spoiled, child, that he really is. A kid so immature and so out of touch with the real world, that he cannot foresee the negative backlash from his continued self-indulgent behavior. Whenever he gets called out for something he's done, he steps up and blames everybody else. The minute an athlete holds Randy Moss up, as a role model for media relations, you know he's desparately reaching for .

In the meantime, he'd better be careful what his wishes for. If he gets Coach Spo fired, he'll usher in latest chapter of the Riles regime. The HOF coach, who is known for his attention to detail and his legendary, marathon practices, as well as his rings. Riles has the clout, moxie, rep and power to challenge his superstar on every level - and win. He cannot be fired and he will not allow him to quit on his teammates, the way he did during his farewell playoff series versus the Celtics, last spring. I doubt that LeQuit is ready for that type of hard, old-school coaching - even if it would benefit him in the long run. LeQuit keeps clamoring for public sympathy and what he really needs is a kick in his shorts. Riles would certainly provide that.

LeQuit chose to take the short path to success. Instead, he's finding out that it's actually a long, bumpy road - and he appears to be crumbling - again. He's not going to be able to choreograph his way out of this one. For now, he would be better served if he would just "man up", "ball out" and STFU.

[LkrFan]

LeQuit absolutely WAS NOT "misquoted" nor were his comments "taken out of character", as he calls it. It's just that, in his world and in his adolescent mind, he's never responsible for anything. The fact is he never should've called out his coach to begin with. The fact that he did was alarming and it garnered so much attention because that's not something any NBA superstar has done or would do. I'm surprised he didn't schedule another 30-minute special to update us all on the status of "The Decision".

Once again, LeQuit comes across like the petulant, spoiled, child, that he really is. A kid so immature and so out of touch with the real world, that he cannot foresee the negative backlash from his continued self-indulgent behavior. Whenever he gets called out for something he's done, he steps up and blames everybody else. The minute an athlete holds Randy Moss up, as a role model for media relations, you know he's desparately reaching for .

In the meantime, he'd better be careful what his wishes for. If he gets Coach Spo fired, he'll usher in latest chapter of the Riles regime. The HOF coach, who is known for his attention to detail and his legendary, marathon practices, as well as his rings. Riles has the clout, moxie, rep and power to challenge his superstar on every level - and win. He cannot be fired and he will not allow him to quit on his teammates, the way he did during his farewell playoff series versus the Celtics, last spring. I doubt that LeQuit is ready for that type of hard, old-school coaching - even if it would benefit him in the long run. LeQuit keeps clamoring for public sympathy and what he really needs is a kick in his shorts. Riles would certainly provide that.

LeQuit chose to take the short path to success. Instead, he's finding out that it's actually a long, bumpy road - and he appears to be crumbling - again. He's not going to be able to choreograph his way out of this one. For now, he would be better served if he would just "man up", "ball out" and STFU.

That was...AWESOME!!! Well done sir!!

[jacobdrj]

I think Lebron is echoing his concerns about Spoeltra's poor time management moreso than him actually complaining about playing too much minutes. It was a subtle jab but he made sure his message gets out there and quite frankly Spo is indeed not handling these existing issues properly. Granted, after Pat Riley used all his resources to sign three max players, Spo really doesn't have a lot of pieces to play with but I think his rotations and strategies are just aweful. I just dont think Spoelstra has what it takes to control a trio of exquisite and overlapping talents. He has three 1st options on the floor yet its not out of the ordinary to see Bosh as a mere walking, pop a mid range jumper $90 Million asset. Spo needs to start creating some plays for Bosh, run a two man game from time to time using either Wade or Lebron to feed Bosh. He simply can't let Wade and James take over and take 65% of the teams FG attempts every night.



The reason why the Celtics in 2007 was so successful was simply because Rivers persuaded his Big Three to give up the ball and have faith that it would come back to find them in better position to score or set up another teammate. KG, Pierce & Allen accepted that idea & embraced their new roles and everything just clicked. I just don't see that with the Heat right now, right now its either Wade's night or Lebron. Dwyane wants to be in command but I dont think Lebron is willing to follow as he said himself (I just don't defer) and why should he? Lebron is the better player and off to a fresh back to back MVP seasons.



Simply, it all comes down to this. Wade or Lebron must decide whose team is this. Sure on most nights there can be an Option 1A and Option 1B but in order for them to win a championship, one player must simply sacrifice his ego and allow that one player to call the shots.

There is a big difference between Boston's big 3 and Miami's big 3.

Garnett, Pierce and Allen were in their declining years. They had all been on horrible teams at some point during their prime years. These guys didn't need a whole lot of 'convincing' to get them to share the ball with each-other. These guys had mutual respect from over a decade of playing against one another at some capacity or another. This isn't a trio of, say, Iverson, Francis and Marburry. You could tell when Boston's big 3 guys lost (before they came to Boston), it hurt them, even if they had good stat lines.

Wade, LeBron and Bosh are just entering the prime of their respective careers. While Bosh has seen some mediocre teams and some horrible teams, the fact is, outside of LeBron's rookie season and Wade's post le team, these guys have never experienced long periods of team lows, certainly not wasting the 'prime years' of their careers, at least in theory (Wade might be entering the twilight of his career because of how he plays, and LeBron might suffer from the fact he started in the NBA so young, AKA the Mileage paradox). While I do believe Wade, LeBron and Bosh do all want to win, I am not sure that as a trio of former focal-points, they have yet experienced enough hardship where they are willing to do anything to win. They are young an y.

And unlike Boston, Miami didn't go through 5 years of high draft picks before trading for 2 of their big 3... Miami only had Beasly to fall back on, and he got traded before game 1...

[Obstructed_View]

It's really sad when ego finally eclipses talent. I guess it's a testament to how much talent Lebron actually has that it didn't happen years ago. Throwing himself into the same boat with Randy Moss is poetic.

[Giuseppe]

"You kind of understand sometimes what Randy Moss was talking about when he said, 'I will not be answering any more questions.' Because every time I say something, it gets turned out of character."

I'll side James & Moss here. Media ain't no benevolent en y. They're out there desperately trying to sell their widgets just like McDonalds, or, Burger King, or any other huckster on the face of the planet. Why anybody would talk to these assholes continues to amaze me.

[Obstructed_View]

What exactly did James say that was taken out of context? What exactly has Randy Moss said that was taken out of context? If the media were notorious for taking people out of context, then Moss and James wouldn't stand out.

[Shank]

"You kind of understand sometimes what Randy Moss was talking about when he said, 'I will not be answering any more questions.' Because every time I say something, it gets turned out of character."

I'll side James & Moss here. Media ain't no benevolent en y. They're out there desperately trying to sell their widgets just like McDonalds, or, Burger King, or any other huckster on the face of the planet. Why anybody would talk to these assholes continues to amaze me.

How, exactly, did the media take that quote out of context? It was replayed at face value - no editing, no faulty transcript. The said it and is now trying to backtrack.

Also, if there was no media, how would you find out about your favorite teams?

[Giuseppe]

How, exactly, did the media take that quote out of context? It was replayed at face value - no editing, no faulty transcript. The said it and is now trying to backtrack.

Also, if there was no media, how would you find out about your favorite teams?

You trust Media implicitly. I don't. They're just as crooked as the next guy in the line.

And I can't stand Moss. He's a loser, and he's content to be there. He sees the path to salvation/winning and he eschews it out of hand.

James is a loser as well, but, my jury is still out on him. I think he genuinely wants to be a winner, but, can't decipher the way there.

& I didn't advocate the extinction of Media. I just don't trust them. Because somebody puts something down on "paper" -or- "video" don't make it so.

[Obstructed_View]

You trust Media implicitly. I don't. They're just as crooked as the next guy in the line.

And I can't stand Moss. He's a loser, and he's content to be there. He sees the path to salvation/winning and he eschews it out of hand.

James is a loser as well, but, my jury is still out on him. I think he genuinely wants to be a winner, but, can't decipher the way there.

& I didn't advocate the extinction of Media. I just don't trust them. Because somebody puts something down on "paper" -or- "video" don't make it so.

So you're suggesting that someone digitally altered every copy of the video from Lebron's press conference where he complained about his minutes?

[21_Blessings]

Why anybody would talk to these assholes continues to amaze me.

Stern's orders.

Sports journalism may be an absurd joke. In this case however, Bron has himself to blame for being a walking, talking, dancing, decision making, gaffe. I pray he never stops being him.

[Albert Haynesworth]

I said something re ed and they quoted me exactly:Cry

Stupid media

[Albert Haynesworth]

You trust Media implicitly. I don't. They're just as crooked as the next guy in the line.

And I can't stand Moss. He's a loser, and he's content to be there. He sees the path to salvation/winning and he eschews it out of hand.

James is a loser as well, but, my jury is still out on him. I think he genuinely wants to be a winner, but, can't decipher the way there.

& I didn't advocate the extinction of Media. I just don't trust them. Because somebody puts something down on "paper" -or- "video" don't make it so.

scro, you would be a legend in the NFL forum