I would assert that the circle of individuals that could possibly know what drives the decisions of a President is rather small. I don't think you have enough information -- just as I didn't think Obama had enough information the entire time he was criticizing the administration -- to know if the current policy on terrorist detention was the right one.
If you want to believe Obama is a coward, to boot, I won't stop you.
Or, he's recognizing the same limitations already discovered by the previous administration and is acting accordingly, including using the same rationale for continued detention -- without trial -- of KSM. If he wants to blame it on Congress and other Democrats (Yes, I'm looking at you Mr. Shumer), better yet.
But, it is. He is vindicated in the one arena it matters; the Oval Office. If nothing else, Barack Obama knows [because of this and other policies that he criticized only to adopt after taking office] that maybe, just maybe, there's more to being President than he thought.
Smart money says it eventually ends up being a military tribunal with a whole butt-load of executions to follow. How far down the road will that be? Who knows and who cares. They can rot at Gitmo for all I care. , I wouldn't mind if they used them for target practice.
The first president that deigns to try and bring the worst of the worst to a civil trial will be run out of office on a rail.
So the fact that this administration turns out to be as cowardly as Bush was in the face of political opposition to the rule of law, it's vindication?
Damn, yoni is stupid.
Why isn't the American system of justice good enough for these people who committed crimes against America?
This has nothing to do with privileged information. Such information is used all the time in courts and protected accordingly. Again, the fact that judges decided to release the supposed treats after reviewing the cases should tell you all you need to know.
And again, you misplace the blame. It's not the administration that does not want to proceed with the federal trial, it's the opposition from lawmakers somewhere else that makes pursuing that avenue a waste of time.
I believe the American system of justice would be well served by tackling a trial like this. And I think the administration would be cowards if they don't pursue that avenue despite opposition.
The previous administration simply did not want courts involved at all, neither military or civilian. That's why they invented a parallel system of justice which they thought would rubber-stamp anything they claimed.
Fortunately for America, it did not work that way.
This doesn't free the Bush administration from blame. If anything, it appends the Obama administration to it. Again, you need to look up what vindication means.
The question is why they haven't been tried yet. Either military or civilian.
Why haven't them been tried yet, Yoni? Do you want them to be tried or you want them to be simply convicted?
Baloney. Civilians have tried the worst of the worst many times. Serial murderers, rapists, cannibals, terrorists like the Unabomber.
Why is it that now they're not good enough to try these guys?
I say, if military tribunals and execution is good enough for the spies FDR caught IN AMERICA, it's good enough for the goat dung we've hauled to Gitmo from distant battlefields.
Except for the few we've waterboarded to gain valuable intelligence, I think it would have been far better to have left them face down in their own pools of blood wherever it was we found them.
These s bags didn't commit crimes; they committed acts of war.
When did we declare war? For which country were they fighting a war?
And lol valuable intelligence. Which blog ordered you to believe that?
Then why didn't the Bush administration try them under military law?
Why is it that these military commissions had to be created if there was a fair and working military system of justice in place Yoni?
I am continually amazed by the complete lack of faith people like yoni have in the American system of justice.
They would rather summarily execute criminals just like fundamentalist Muslims.
Because of whiny Liberals.
I think Bush was content with letting them rot at Gitmo until he could figure out an inexpensive way to dispose of the bodies.
If yoni is so certain of their guilt, there is no reason not to try them and let them legitimately rot in prison.
GOP controlled both Congress and the Presidency. Can't pin this one on liberals Yoni.
Why did Bush hate the American justice system? Why do you hate the American justice system?
They were really, really loud.
I don't hate it. It's for trying criminals, not combatants.
That didn't stop Bush from doing pretty much whatever he wanted in this topic. Yet, he didn't try them in any established system of justice. Why Yoni?
The military system of justice is part of the justice system in America. Why was it not good enough to try these guys under Bush? What isn't it good enough to try these people now?
Are you sure you want to try these people, Yoni? You know they get to defend themselves on a military trial too, right?
Or you're just looking for a guilty verdict without a trial?
It's ancient history but, weren't the courts involved?
I think they should be summarily executed.
Wow. Nice.
I did that.
Called it.
yoni hates America.
In a growing number of respects, Yoni is becoming just as bad as the fundamentalist Muslims.
Congratulations!
Not if Bush had his way. Thankfully he didn't get his way.
You're no better than them. No surprises there.
Yes, if that little nut keeps holding his ground, he may someday be a shrub.
what happened to the wmds? we missed those..
None were found. You really weren't paying attention, were you?
so this thread is just a disturbing love letter from yoni.
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