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Yeah, he sought a better opportunity because he couldnt truly crack the squad as a legit contributor getting quality minutes....hmmm.... I wonder why he asked for a release that the Spurs were more than obliged to grant?
Mm believe an Internet poster or believe Hairston.
I'm gonna be nuts and go with Hairston.
Yeah, he sought a better opportunity because he couldnt truly crack the squad as a legit contributor getting quality minutes....hmmm.... I wonder why he asked for a release that the Spurs were more than obliged to grant?
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Those tweets(?) do not say anything definitive in regard to your argument. So they were supportive?.....
Are you purposely avoiding the person who actually talked with Malik?
Avoiding what? You said he said....and? I know what I have read countless times and in countless reports.
Whether he truly asked for it or not is irrelavent to me. The point is why he asked. He obviously couldnt hack it here. So yeah, I am sure the Spurs agreed to part ways with someone who wasnt getting it done. If that wasnt the case, he would have stuck here and been given quality minutes, instead of heading overseas for playing time.
You picked an appropriate username.
Awww shucks....for some reason I feel as if that was intended to be a sarcastic insult. How will I ever go on?You picked an appropriate username.
BTW, I commend you on your creativity. I have never heard that before.You picked an appropriate username.
The source from where the quotes I've given come is reliable. It's highly unlikely that they are wrong or that there have been some kind of misunderstanding.
And what is easier to say for Hairston? "Spurs weren't high enough on me to keep me with my back troubles" or "I wanted to go overseas"? It's possible that Hairston didn't want to enter in this kind of details with you and just went with was what easier to say.
It reminds me the story with Parker and the WC last summer. Serious journalists in France were all saying that he was out at 99%. A blogger (I don't remember who it was) talked to Parker who said that he will play and made a blog entry on that. We know how it turns out.
It's sure that Spurs didn't come one day and said to Hairston "go to Italy" or Malik didn't come one day and said "Waive me".
It takes two to tango. Spurs were fine with releasing him and Hairston was fine with going overseas. Who make the initial move isn't that a big deal even if I'm truly convinced that it was Spurs. Hairston being waived just after having back issues is a too big coincidence.
It doesn't make sense.
When a team is really high on a player, they don't release him even if he want to play overseas (see Rudy Fernandez).
And it also proves nothing. Spurs' staff often say nice thing about a player even if he is waived or on the verge to. Most of the time, it has more to do with the at ude and work ethic of the player than his level of play.
Nobody said that the second injury is related to the injury he had in SA.
The first injury was a big one with Hairston missing 3 months. This back injury showed that Spurs were right with being concerned about his back.
I mentioned the second injury for two reasons:
First, it is the reason why he doesn't play right now making he idea that he could back up RJ right now moot.
Second, back injuries are a big deal. It will takes months of playing at a good level for Hairston to be sure that he is healthy again. This hernia surgery delay that. It's possible that Hairston isn't at all done with his back issues.
If you ask me to tell you what I believe happened as a whole and not just whom initiated the release, you're going to get two different answers.
First off, Malik told me he initiated the release after I made the assumption that his injury and their tax situation was the reason he was no longer a Spur. I didn't ask him what happened, he volunteered it and then made sure to tell me how cool they were about the whole thing.
I completely understand what you're saying about someone wanting to make it look better, save a little face or whatnot, but it was nothing like that. He was very matter of fact about the whole thing and wanted to make sure I knew he and the Spurs were on good terms.
Now saying that, I believe the Spurs were in a little bit of a tough situation -- as tough as it can be for a player fulfilling one of your last roster spots. I believe wholeheartedly they wanted to keep him for a cir stance just like this, where they had an injury on the wing, but the injury and tax line really left a lot of uncertainty. I'm sure they were contemplating what to do considering the unknown extent of the injury -- the Spurs can't afford to have players on the roster this year that can't contribute to the cause, sans maybe one Toros prospect that has a decent amount of potential.
So my guess is Malik's agent was quite aware of the insurance-policy role he'd have on the team -- one that could preclude him from getting the minutes to improve his game to any great extent -- and began to put out some feelers; he looked to see if he could find Malik a quality opportunity where he could develop and make a little more money. And once that opportunity presented itself, I'm guessing Malik got together with the Spurs and they had a good conversation that prevented the Spurs from really even having to make a guesswork decision (because of the injury).
What I do know about the Spurs is, they always seem to do right by the players trying to make their way in the league. So even if Malik had not been hurt and came to them with the type of scenario I've suggested, I believe they would have told him the same thing: Sienna is a great opportunity for you financially and as a player and we support/encourage you to go make the most of it.
As an aside, and this is not aimed at you Bruno, I really don't get the people that find it necessary to weigh in on Malik or anyone else who's done all the right things and presented themselves as well as Malik did as a Spur, just to scoff or denigrate them because they're no longer on the team or because they have fans who wish they still were on the team. I really don't.
Uh, we do that to players who are currently on the team.
No, we scoff and denigrate players on the team because they are on the team.
And then said players go out and turn into Chuck Norris.
We scoff and denigrate players on the team, player who were on the team, players who weren't on the team, players who will never be on the team, refs, coaches, owners and front office people and especially other posters.No, we scoff and denigrate players on the team because they are on the team.
And then said players go out and turn into Chuck Norris.
I guess one can wonder why we do such things, but that's like asking Mallory why he wanted to climb Mount Everest -- the only difference being most of the posters here will not end up dying in an attempt to scoff a basketball player.
I said most.
He's actually a very good shooter, however he played marginal minutes in the NBA, basically the sample is too small. He only took 12 3PA in 67 games.
It's unclear if Malik asked to be released, because RC said he was sorry because the Spurs invested a lot in his development, which could mean they wanted to keep him.
Since he doesn't play now, he couldn't help.
I think that if he wasn't able to impress in two seasons, he wasn't good enough. His college career wasn't so great either.
But, he may eventually become better and return to the NBA at some point.
I get that. I understand that. But for someone like Malik who never had the opportunity to let the team down on the court or cost the Spurs anything as some kind of first-round bust (and, no, he didn't cost them Dragic to those that will make the argument - Dragic was a Suns pick. The Spurs wanted the additional second-rounder as opposed to one particular player left on the board), it's amazing that people take the time manufacture nonsense to justify him not being here or take the time to say good riddance.
The OP's question was "Do you miss Malik now?"
A no would suffice; or you could even state why it is you feel that way using facts or beliefs as to why the Spurs are better off. It's the animosity I don't get.
Probably smart you clarified.
I don't think people are hating on Malik per se. More likely they are tired of hearing what they feel are overestimations of his abilities or worth to the team in the past and now the present.
No, they are. Because they take the gigantic leap of making any and all that support him and his ability to help a team, like he could have last year, as saying he's some kind of future star or that the Spurs will rue the day they let him get away.
Really, I think the animosity's at his supporters and it just happens to get projected upon Malik.
Malik did do everything asked of him & I tend to believe it happened more along the lines of BlackJack. However, I can see some Bruno mixed in....I do miss the comfortable feeling that I got knowing that , if it came down to it, Malik could hold it down.
I miss it as much as having a 15-man roster & a "4 quarters" defense & the "hold them to 20 points/quarter" rule.
Isn't that pretty much what I said?
If I put in my words it makes me feel like I've figured it out for myself.
I don't see a lot of Malik's trashing in this thread.
It's not one thread or one poster, it's constant potshots for no apparent reason.
It's not like it's some huge problem plaguing the board, just odd. But it's far from the only thing here you can say that about.
While I agree with you that players get unfairly trashed, it seemed a little strange to say it in this thread where nobody trashed Hairston.
I can get that someone doesn't like the way a Spur plays, but going with insults is lame.
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