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    TSA sees sanitary napkins in naked body scans



    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/t...ns-body-scans/

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    TSA is investigating "don't touch my junk" guy for leaving the security checkpoint. $11,000 fine, if he's found guilty.

    Does the TSA not recall ordering him to leave and escorting him away?

    Unflipping believable.

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    Does anyone remember Obama, Pelosi, Reid & company telling everyone that their rights were being violated because the govt might be listening to your overseas phone calls with suspected terrorists?

    Maybe I just imagined that. They might have been saying anything to keep you safe is worth it cause the terrorists are out to getcha.

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    Does anyone remember Obama, Pelosi, Reid & company telling everyone that their rights were being violated because the govt might be listening to your overseas phone calls with suspected terrorists?
    Yep. They got past that.

    Alternation of power changes everything.

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    (The vote on telecom immunity foreshadowed it.)

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    And, in that respect, profiling -- one of many techniques used by Israel -- seems to work.
    They don't feel up old people and little kids in public at airports. Nor would Israelis put up with that. For a minute.

    Why should we?

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    obviously this is theater, just like having hundreds of troops with m16s in the airports. as others have said just securing the pit is more than enough.

    i think part of the allure of planes for terrorists is that despite being a relatively small strike in terms of numbers, they have a good chance of getting people from several places, making it more likely that many more people than those actually killed will be "connected" to the attack

    I'm not sure that Israel is a good parallel, seeing as they are a much smaller country with land borders to many of their enemies. I'm quite sure that Israel has a much higher per capita terrorism rate, the difference being that the attacks come from the ground rather than through airports/planes.

    Profiling can be useful but it can also be easily tricked. Profiling will never be superior to real intelligence. And profiling will not overcome poor execution from the burocrats in the middle- think of the nigerian kid last december- no baggage (major red flag), father had warned his son might be going terrorist (major red flag).

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    also, I remember reading somewhere that the chances of being struck by lightning are significantly higher than the chance of being caught in a terrorist attack. death/risk is a fact of life, just like injury is a fact of sport. the same way you can't compete fearing injury, you can't live fearing death. in that sense, the terrorists have won. The US image, both your own domestic self image or the image other countries have of the US, has always been of a people who put freedom and ideals over fear and survival. not anymore.

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    They don't feel up old people and little kids in public at airports. Nor would Israelis put up with that. For a minute.

    Why should we?
    Because you put Obama and Icompetano in office and they say you should.

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    My husband thinks I'm overreacting about the girl. I told him that he could choose, then, which he wanted more for his daughter: That she be exposed to a low dose of radiation and a possible pedophile looking at her naked (however small the chance may be) or that she be groped and examined like a slave by a complete stranger because the six-year-old daughter of a career American military man might be carrying an explosive device. He just kind of stared for a few seconds before he mumbled something about "overreaction" again. I don't think he gets it

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    Because you put Obama and Icompetano in office and they say you should.

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    body scanners are a Repug-Exec initiated project, not Magic Negro Exec:

    "TSA began deploying state-of-the-art advanced imaging technology in 2007. "

    http://www.tsa.gov/approach/tech/ait/index.shtm

    Like bull wars and unwanted fighter jets, once these projects get started, nobody can stop them.

    Yoni Lies, Again.

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    body scanners are a Repug-Exec initiated project, not Magic Negro Exec:

    "TSA began deploying state-of-the-art advanced imaging technology in 2007. "

    http://www.tsa.gov/approach/tech/ait/index.shtm

    Like bull wars and unwanted fighter jets, once these projects get started, nobody can stop them.

    Yoni Lies, Again.
    True. This isn't just Obama or even Bush. This is bigger than any President. it's the system we have in place...


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    Because you put Obama and Icompetano in office and they say you should.
    I did no such thing. And that's Incompetano, slick.

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    Taking my husband's advice, I did more studying into the TSA's security procedures. I thought, "Maybe I am overreacting, just having a panicked knee-jerk reaction." So after spending most of the morning digging further in for the truth, reading countless articles and watching countless videos... I've canceled my daughter's ticket. Too many lies have been told and too many truths have come out. We're eating the ticket price - it's non-refundable - but damned if this is about money.

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    Taking my husband's advice, I did more studying into the TSA's security procedures. I thought, "Maybe I am overreacting, just having a panicked knee-jerk reaction." So after spending most of the morning digging further in for the truth, reading countless articles and watching countless videos... I've canceled my daughter's ticket. Too many lies have been told and too many truths have come out. We're eating the ticket price - it's non-refundable - but damned if this is about money.


    I hope ALOT more people do the same. I would love to see that TSA prick who just told congress "he's not going to change the rules" eat his words. Put the financial squeeze on the airlines and you have the american people + the airline unions vs. the TSA. The TSA loses that one fast.

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    people will always fly... no matter what indignation they are subjected to, they will still line up to fly the friendly skys.
    Last edited by Bender; 11-17-2010 at 05:49 PM.

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    people will always fly... no matter what indignation they are subjected to, they will still line up to fly the friendly skys.
    I'm sorry folks, but I'm just not seeing what we should be outraged about. We knew this point, where we are right now, would just be the tip of the iceberg as far as suffering "indignation" at the airports.

    As long as no one is putting their thumbs in my asshole, I'm cool. Although I do wonder about radiation from those machines, anyone know if they you up?

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    people will always fly... no matter what indignation they are subjected to, they will still line up to fly the friendly skys.
    I don't have much of a choice, being in Hawaii and all.

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    As long as no one is putting their thumbs in my asshole, I'm cool. Although I do wonder about radiation from those machines, anyone know if they you up?
    Some researcher was saying that these were pretty unsafe. Not sure if he had numbers/figures. I would think that blasts of X-rays through you isn't conducive to good health.

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    Florida airport to opt out of TSA screening

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/f...tsa-screening/

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    body scanners are a Repug-Exec initiated project, not Magic Negro Exec:

    "TSA began deploying state-of-the-art advanced imaging technology in 2007. "

    http://www.tsa.gov/approach/tech/ait/index.shtm

    Like bull wars and unwanted fighter jets, once these projects get started, nobody can stop them.

    Yoni Lies, Again.
    If the political process to be considered, the democrats took the house and senate in 2006.

    Why do you always forget that?

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    TSA is executive branch, WC. Congress has little meaningful input on its regs.

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    TSA is executive branch, WC. Congress has little meaningful input on its regs.
    Good.

    Now that you acknowledge that, remember, those 2007 time frame wasn't body scanners. They were for luggage. It wasn't till this year that the personal evasive technology was allowed.

    Who is the Chief Executive now?

    Can't believe you, of all people, walked into that one.

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