ESPN's Simmons: Nash+ Grant Hill for TParker

[JustinJDW]

Honestly, the trade isn't as bad as people think it is. It's not like Nash isn't still a great PG. Arguably a Top 5 PG. , some people, analysts and experts have him over Parker. And Grant Hill would be a great back-up to RJ, and would be a great addition to our Bench.

Plus, Grant Hill's contract expires this Season and Nash's contract expires next Season along with Duncan. So we would have more than enough cap to sign a big time free agent.

Now of course, this will never happen. The Suns and Spurs trading their star players to each other? Psh, yeah right. But I just want people to know that its not as bad as people are exaggerating it to be. In fact, our team would be pretty damn good with Nash and Hill.

[Chomag]

Because you are not basing your willingness to trade Parker on anything other than your belief that he is an immoral person. It's not a basketball decision for you. You are having a knee jerk reaction to a personal issue of which you have no knowledge or insight to. It's all about judgment for people like you. You all seem to think you have some divine insight as to how everyone else should live their lives. You are the supremest form of hypocrite.

I don't expect people in the sports/entertainment industry to live like saints. It's naive and foolish to be disappointed when a professional athlete does not live up to some arbitrary standard that you have.

All I care about is how these guys play on the court. If he has the support of the organization and his teammates (and I can't fathom why he would not), then that is good enough for me.

Ok dude, not sure how me saying "I'm still all for trading Parker if the right deal is available. This isn't one." warranted all of this but if I really hit your nerve I am sorry. You are adding things that I have not said, and I have said Parker might be a good trade option to use for the right deal before this current situation even happened. I never once said that I am divine and perfect, if you think thats how I feel then I am sorry, I just have an opinon on it, and thats all.

You really need to just get over yourself. If your talking about something I said on another thread then. Yes, I have my own opinions as do you, and everyone else and I respect that. I was not the one that tried to do silly cheap shots at someone (calling them stupid) just becuase you do not agree with it. It's pretty childish. Grow up, this is not grade school. If you have a problem on something I said on another thread then by all means quote me there but please dont try to bring it on another thread when I havnt.

You don't agree with me and I don't agree with you, it's all good.

[ohmwrecker]

You don't agree with me and I don't agree with you, it's all good.

Since you provided no reasonable Tony Parker trade scenario that makes any kind of basketball sense, I am left to assume that you are basing this belief on your judgment of him as a person from your comments on, forgive me . . . another thread.
I can also only assume that one who passes moral judgment on people they don't know with no solid information or understanding of the situation is speaking with a delusional, self-perceived piety. These are, admittedly, assumptions.
So, brother . . . if I got it wrong, I apologize.

[Chomag]

Since you provided no reasonable Tony Parker trade scenario that makes any kind of basketball sense, I am left to assume that you are basing this belief on your judgment of him as a person from your comments on, forgive me . . . another thread.
I can also only assume that one who passes moral judgment on people they don't know with no solid information or understanding of the situation is speaking with a delusional, self-perceived piety. These are, admittedly, assumptions.
So, brother . . . if I got it wrong, I apologize.

I never said they must trade him so yes I am not going to give out any fantasy trades of any kind on him. Please read for once. "I'm still all for trading Parker if the right deal is available. This isn't one"

I reply to this thread saying this not a good trade. I didn't even say or start this thread. I said this is a bad trade idea and you think I'm attacking TParker... I just don't get it. You do realize that there might not even be any deal out there to trade Parker for right? I do.

It's usless if you arnt going to even read so lets just drop it ok?

[ohmwrecker]

I never said they must trade him so yes I am not going to give out any fantasy trades of any kind on him. Please read for once. "I'm still all for trading Parker if the right deal is available. This isn't one"

I reply to this thread saying this not a good trade. I didn't even say or start this thread. I said this is a bad trade idea and you think I'm attacking TParker... I just don't get it. You do realize that there might not even be any deal out there to trade Parker for right? I do.

It's usless if you arnt going to even read so lets just drop it ok?

I don't think you are understanding me. Let me explain.

I did read it. You are "all for" trading Parker. I have to ask myself . . . why? He is playing great and the team is winning. It makes no basketball sense to be for trading him. The core of this team has won three championships together. Keeping them together provides the best shot at a fourth. There is no reason to be for a Parker trade, unless you just don't like him as a person. Which, imo, is just silly.

Consider it dropped.

[ChuckD]

Honestly, the trade isn't as bad as people think it is. It's not like Nash isn't still a great PG. Arguably a Top 5 PG. , some people, analysts and experts have him over Parker. And Grant Hill would be a great back-up to RJ, and would be a great addition to our Bench.

Plus, Grant Hill's contract expires this Season and Nash's contract expires next Season along with Duncan. So we would have more than enough cap to sign a big time free agent.

Now of course, this will never happen. The Suns and Spurs trading their star players to each other? Psh, yeah right. But I just want people to know that its not as bad as people are exaggerating it to be. In fact, our team would be pretty damn good with Nash and Hill.

It's a horrible trade, no matter how you slice it. You don't trade Tony Parker for ing cap room.

Don't be so ing anxious to tear it down and rebuild. It took Chicago like 8-9 years just to make the playoffs again after Jordan. We have our principles under contract for another 3-4 years, other than Tim, and I think he will come along for the ride. Phil Jackson is riding off into the sunset, Miami appears soft and disfunctional, and Boston is as old as everyone says we are. Spurs could cop another ring or two before it's over.

[bigbendbruisebrother]

I like the trade for San Antonio though. Gives the Spurs its best defensive perimeter player since Bruce Bowen in Grant Hill, he'd also be a great backup SF which the Spurs don't really have.

If Grant Hill at 38 is as good as Bruce Bowen at 38, he sucks. Bruce lost major steps that last year. We don't need more old, injury prone players, particularly if it costs us a player that is 10 years younger (and finally healthy again). Why would Pop and RC away a key part of the team's "corporate knowledge" at at time when the team is hitting on all cylinders, and with the knowledge that this could very well be Tim's last year if there is a lockout next year?

This is the dumbest trade idea I've heard of in a long time, and I can't believe I just wasted five minutes of my life actually thinking about it.

[angel_luv]

Nash has serious skills and I like Grant Hill, so for those reasons, the rumor makes me think, " Merry Christmas to us!" The advantage with Tony is his already established on court chemistry with the other Spurs, but Nash would fit in nicely and quickly, I think.

George Hill is doing great for us and I would relish seeing him mentored by Nash in the ways of the game.

Nash is old but is still playing great. And his age is not a longterm concern to me because I view Hill as a key part of the Spurs future.

The only real disappointment for me if this trade went through is that Tony's dad would likely no longer be a regular in the restaurant where I work in the arena. Mr. Parker senior is one of the most cordial and kind of my restaurants guest; It would be sad to see him go.

Tony Parker is definitely an asset as a point guard. I can see Phoenix seriously considering him.

Interesting.

[ducks]

nash assist is down this year
has a groin injury already this year
nash is going down hill
tp is much younger and better player

[Mel_13]

nash assist is down this year
has a groin injury already this year
nash is going down hill
tp is much younger and better player

relax ducks, this was just a joke by Simmons.

[DPG21920]

nash assist is down this year
has a groin injury already this year
nash is going down hill
tp is much younger and better player

Nash assist down, but
At least he cares enogh fore temmate
to only increase his "steals" ON THE COURTZ

[Mel_13]

Nash assist down, but
At least he cares enogh fore temmate
to only increase his "steals" ON THE COURTZ

well played.

[Agloco]

It's a horrible trade, no matter how you slice it. You don't trade Tony Parker for ing cap room.

This.

[jestersmash]

Nash assist down, but
At least he cares enogh fore temmate
to only increase his "steals" ON THE COURTZ

[ducks]

nash is out again for suns

[DrSteffo]

If Grant Hill at 38 is as good as Bruce Bowen at 38, he sucks. Bruce lost major steps that last year. We don't need more old, injury prone players, particularly if it costs us a player that is 10 years younger (and finally healthy again). Why would Pop and RC away a key part of the team's "corporate knowledge" at at time when the team is hitting on all cylinders, and with the knowledge that this could very well be Tim's last year if there is a lockout next year?

This is the dumbest trade idea I've heard of in a long time, and I can't believe I just wasted five minutes of my life actually thinking about it.

This. I only wasted 2 min but still sucks.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

unfortunately, the smart things are far outweighed by the idiotic things. at least he likes basketball, which is more than i can say for pretty much any other sports journalist. he's just not very knowledgeable.

Simmons is not really a comedian and not really a sports journalist... knows what he is?

I'm not suggesting Simmons is everyone's cup of tea (he has plenty of haters), but I'll tell you what he is - a big picture thinker and an interesting pattern associator. What Simmons' brain does beautifully is see associations between sports, pop culture and everyday life that most people don't think of themselves, but when they read him they go "awww, yeah, , why didn't I think of that?" And although not a comedian, he's a very humourous writer at times... if you are on his wavelegnth.

I would heavily consider the trade though, seems to help the Spurs unless Nash and Hill run into Richard Jeffferson season 1 growing pains

I wouldn't because, although very basketball-smart, Nash/Hill are likely to encounter first-year growing pains with the Spurs as just about every player does (Nazr being the one exception I can think of off the top of my head). And at 36 and 38, why would we trade our franchise PG, a guy who knows our system inside out, and is playing his best year since 2007?

Nope. #tradefail.