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    I'm sure this statement will certainly rile up the pro-Bonner faction on the board, but there is much truth in it. Of course, no one can or should quarrel with the successful start the Spurs are having. However, I do find it very peculiar that Spiltter suddenly went from developing at a good pace and providing immediate contributions, including some much-needed pick-and-roll defense, to several games of DNP-CDs? There's no other explanation than that which OV provided.

    Whatever the case, I just want Splitter ready to go when the Spurs face the top teams in the West - particularly the Fakers. Splitter has the potential to make a far greater impact in those games.
    Of course there are. The most likely alternative explanation is a minor tweak to the calf injury. There are others, but exercising caution to avoid aggravating the injury is the most likely.

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    Of course there are. The most likely alternative explanation is a minor tweak to the calf injury. There are others, but exercising caution to avoid aggravating the injury is the most likely.
    For the sake of my mental health, or the little that exists, I hope that's the case.

    But Pop was ready to send Tiago in for the final seconds of last night's game.

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    So long as the Spurs can get away with it (meaning, not lose in the process), Splitter should play close to 30 minutes tonight. He's not old man Ratliff, he's a young guy. I'm tired of this conditioning excuse. You know how you build stamina? By playing.

    One of Duncan or McDyess shouldn't play entirely. I'd lean towards McDyess, because he'll be needed against the Magic and (theoretically, at least) there's no big who's enough of a concern on the Cavs that the Spurs should need his defense. Duncan should play but have his minutes monitored. As in, if things are under control, play him as little as possible.

    It's games like these where Blair and Splitter (I'd add Bonner, but he's dealing with back spasms) need to eat up a lot of minutes.

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    In April, when we're fighting for 1-4 instead of 7-8 playoff seeds.

    I think Pop has changed strategy. He's decided to kill it while the schedule is soft, and work players in as he can, instead of teaching with early losses as he has in the past. That really hasn't worked in 2-3 years. The Spurs are just left gasping as they fight for a playoff spot.
    One good thing Pop's done with the strategy is to allow the starters to get enough minutes to get the victories during the soft part of the schedule, which he didn't do last year.

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    Looks like the sky isn't falling after all.

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    it did fall on Obstructed apparently now

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    But we've already lost three late season games.

    The damage is done.

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    it did fall on Obstructed apparently now
    I'm horribly crushed, but I'm buoyed by Splitter's return from what was pretty clearly a debilitating injury. Kudos to Matt Bonner for soldiering up to fill his spot. Splitter was obviously out of shape and he clearly doesn't know the playbook yet. Hopefully after he sits out the next couple of games to recharge his batteries we can try again. They'll have to figure out a way to get the offense going with Splitter on the floor, because it clearly grinds to a halt due to his inability to spread the floor.

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    It is interesting that Splitter was out there with Bonner for much of the time, now that you mention it.

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    It is interesting that Splitter was out there with Bonner for much of the time, now that you mention it.
    How did that combo look? Seemed intriguing when Pop put them in together.

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    Duncan played 33 minutes tonight. No way you play him a lot tomorrow-goes against everything Pop believes in. Splitter's familiar with Varejao and will do well. Hopefully, we still win.

    awesome prediction

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    I'm horribly crushed, but I'm buoyed by Splitter's return from what was pretty clearly a debilitating injury. Kudos to Matt Bonner for soldiering up to fill his spot. Splitter was obviously out of shape and he clearly doesn't know the playbook yet. Hopefully after he sits out the next couple of games to recharge his batteries we can try again. They'll have to figure out a way to get the offense going with Splitter on the floor, because it clearly grinds to a halt due to his inability to spread the floor.
    By your standards it's gonna look this way.

    Damn Tiago was so lucky Pop did not seen him on the floor last night. Otherwise he would have benched him.


    Why don't you now that McDyess was not playing at all?

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    By your standards it's gonna look this way.

    Damn Tiago was so lucky Pop did not seen him on the floor last night. Otherwise he would have benched him.


    Why don't you now that McDyess was not playing at all?
    I have no idea what you're talking about. I can't tell if it's a language thing or just because you're not as clever as you think you are.

    Why would I complain about McDyess not playing? I don't see anyone suggesting he must be injured or that he's out of shape, or that he's too stupid to play pro basketball.

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    gotta say your good for calling it! if he hadnt played last night i would have had a heart attack! i mean what was the big deal? look at what he did last night ive been preachin splitter!

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    I have no idea what you're talking about. I can't tell if it's a language thing or just because you're not as clever as you think you are.

    Why would I complain about McDyess not playing? I don't see anyone suggesting he must be injured or that he's out of shape, or that he's too stupid to play pro basketball.
    So what was your point in the first place?

    You was crying about Pop giving too much minutes to bonner and not giving Splitter more (also minutes)

    Now Splitter got more playing time and it's okay?

    Are you okay with this amount of minutes?
    I assumed that you are a Bonner hater at this point. And now he is stealing Dyess minutes.


    As for me I said it before. Tiago was not ready to play earlier or the cir stances were specific so he could get additional 'rest'. Because
    one - he had an injury [and no one wants to rush a player in frickin November esp. when another guy from the same position is lights out]
    two - he had summer with a lot of basketball and now getting into physical shape


    And all those who were at the edge of a cliff and comparing Tiago to Ian are also mistaken.
    And I repeat - Tiago was playing bball at the high level. Mainhimi never, and he was always a prospect with unknown potential.


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    So what was your point in the first place?

    You was crying about Pop giving too much minutes to bonner and not giving Splitter more (also minutes)
    I don't know that I ever made that point. I certainly never cried about anything. I mentioned that it's quite a coincidence that Splitter got DNPed as soon as Bonner came back from his injury. I have pointed out time and again that they shouldn't be competing for minutes because their roles are completely different.

    Now Splitter got more playing time and it's okay?
    Actually, yeah. I'd like for Splitter to get some minutes. Did you have a problem with his 18 points, his blocks, and his field goal percentage? Sort of blows the "he's not healthy" or "he isn't very good" theories out of the water.

    Are you okay with this amount of minutes?
    Is there some reason not to be? It beats the out of zero. You might want to go back and find out exactly what it is I've said that you have a problem with. Maybe I misspoke or wasn't clear.

    I assumed that you are a Bonner hater at this point. And now he is stealing Dyess minutes.
    I'm not sure where you got that. I don't hate Bonner, but I don't like Bonner getting more minutes than anyone but the starters, especially when he's not hitting his shots. I've said time and again how I think he should be used, and how good he can be for the team when he is. I could give a if he gets McDyess' minutes; everyone knows Dice will be ready after January, and I'm perfectly happy if he gets some rest. The refs know who he is and he knows his role on the team. The same can't be said for Splitter. If Splitter's not healed up, I'm all for sitting him until he is.

    As for me I said it before. Tiago was not ready to play earlier or the cir stances were specific so he could get additional 'rest'. Because
    one - he had an injury [and no one wants to rush a player in frickin November esp. when another guy from the same position is lights out]
    two - he had summer with a lot of basketball and now getting into physical shape
    Or three: Pop occasionally sits guys out for a stretch of games with no apparent explanation or logic behind it, usually a young player losing minutes in favor of one of his favorite vets, or a three point shooter in favor of a defensive center. There's a long history of him doing that. The complete lack of evidence to support your theory serves as evidence to support mine. Regardless, if Splitter's healthy now, he won't be getting DNP-CD anytime soon.

    And all those who were at the edge of a cliff and comparing Tiago to Ian are also mistaken.
    And I repeat - Tiago was playing bball at the high level. Mainhimi never, and he was always a prospect with unknown potential.
    I basically agree with you on the first part of that. Mahinmi got one shot with the Spurs and knocked it out of the park. He never got a chance to follow that performance up. You might forgive some Spurs fans for publicly wondering if Pop's doing the same thing again.

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    I don't know that I ever made that point. I certainly never cried about anything. I mentioned that it's quite a coincidence that Splitter got DNPed as soon as Bonner came back from his injury. I have pointed out time and again that they shouldn't be competing for minutes because their roles are completely different.
    If the roles are different then he is not stealing the minutes. In a way McDyess is.
    Pop needed a different offense maybe?
    And Thunder game and Chicago game proves it.


    Actually, yeah. I'd like for Splitter to get some minutes. Did you have a problem with his 18 points, his blocks, and his field goal percentage? Sort of blows the "he's not healthy" or "he isn't very good" theories out of the water.
    Nahh it's not blowing anything.
    I knew Tiago can produce. It's just a matter of getting into rhythm and be familiar with the new people. As well as being in game shape.


    I'm not sure where you got that. I don't hate Bonner, but I don't like Bonner getting more minutes than anyone but the starters, especially when he's not hitting his shots. I've said time and again how I think he should be used, and how good he can be for the team when he is. I could give a if he gets McDyess' minutes; everyone knows Dice will be ready after January, and I'm perfectly happy if he gets some rest. The refs know who he is and he knows his role on the team. The same can't be said for Splitter. If Splitter's not healed up, I'm all for sitting him until he is.
    I agree with a difference that, well when you have player in the zone you let him play.
    So many ppl here were bashing on Pop that he is not letting the guys on the row play. Now he does and it's bad thing because 'someone' wants Tiago to play when it's no need in this situation. 10 games into season after long summer after an injury and with other big who gives a lot of positive things


    Or three: Pop occasionally sits guys out for a stretch of games with no apparent explanation or logic behind it, usually a young player losing minutes in favor of one of his favorite vets, or a three point shooter in favor of a defensive center. There's a long history of him doing that. The complete lack of evidence to support your theory serves as evidence to support mine. Regardless, if Splitter's healthy now, he won't be getting DNP-CD anytime soon.
    RU sure he will play now?
    All in all there is no logic in Pop, so he could sit him down now

    btw. There is always a logic behind the decision. The matter is if it's good or bad.


    I basically agree with you on the first part of that. Mahinmi got one shot with the Spurs and knocked it out of the park. He never got a chance to follow that performance up. You might forgive some Spurs fans for publicly wondering if Pop's doing the same thing again.
    If I will forgive them I will get something in return?

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    If the roles are different then he is not stealing the minutes. In a way McDyess is.
    Pop needed a different offense maybe?
    And Thunder game and Chicago game proves it.
    No. Bonner shouldn't be getting minutes if he's not hitting shots. He's not a rotation player, he's a role player. His role is to hit threes. He got the same number of minutes as Dice and Splitter didn't play on a night that Bonner wasn't hitting his shots. That shouldn't happen, and I'll point that out every time it happens. I can't really accuse him of "stealing" Dice's minutes when he went 4-7 from three point range and it's the second night of a back to back (Bonner played 8 more minutes than Duncan.)

    I agree with a difference that, well when you have player in the zone you let him play.
    So many ppl here were bashing on Pop that he is not letting the guys on the row play. Now he does and it's bad thing because 'someone' wants Tiago to play when it's no need in this situation. 10 games into season after long summer after an injury and with other big who gives a lot of positive things
    I'm almost tempted to give Pop credit for playing his players, but that's what you're supposed to do. I have no idea why he's failed to do it in the past.

    RU sure he will play now?
    All in all there is no logic in Pop, so he could sit him down now

    btw. There is always a logic behind the decision. The matter is if it's good or bad.
    To be honest, I'm not at all sure that he'll play now. But I'm willing to go along with the logic that if Splitter's healthy, there's no reason for him to be sat down like he was anytime soon.

    Not all madness has a method to it.

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    Ian certainly is tearing it up in Dallas.

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    I said there is a logic [purpose] in making actions



    And if there is no reason him to sit, he should not. As simple as that.
    The thing is it's pops reasons and we do not know the whole situation. But from the past that happened and what was going on with Splitter and with the team I say it was all good for him to sit on that stretch. Period.


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    Ian certainly is tearing it up in Dallas.
    And Obstructed view is probably on a Mavs website telling people what an idiot Carlisle is for not playing Mahimni more.

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    Ian certainly is tearing it up in Dallas.
    Ian's playing behind two legitimate centers that are playing well. What was the excuse when he was here?

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    Ian's playing behind two legitimate centers that are playing well. What was the excuse when he was here?
    The excuse was he is a physical talent without the necessary BBIQ to be anything more than a end of a bench guy in the NBA. Maybe Mahimini is one of those 10 year developmental guys.

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    The excuse was he is a physical talent without the necessary BBIQ to be anything more than a end of a bench guy in the NBA. Maybe Mahimini is one of those 10 year developmental guys.
    Yet the one time he was given minutes he played really great.

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    Yet the one time he was given minutes he played really great.
    which is really strange since he was so horrilble in practice (allegedly.)

    There's no good reason for boner to steal minutes from Splitter - unless Splitter's injured. Boner's a one trick pony that's only needed in times that call for that one trick - leave the rest of the minutes to bigs with true big skills.

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