Spurs add Danny Green

[jjktkk]

Sanity and Good health, respectively.

A jump shot.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

I really don't know squat about him, so I'll have to see how things turn out with him.

[xmas1997]

It seems reasonable to assume that if the Spurs were only going to take a temporary flier on a guy short term then they would most likely bring in a vet.
But since they are going on recommendations of Ferry, then this guy may actually be here for the whole year, especially since they were once interested in drafting him as well as he fits most of the criteria of who they have been looking for.
With that in mind, since he seems to be showing promise, why don't they just go ahead and get Bruce to coach and mentor him?
I mean, they have a coach who coaches strictly shooting, so why not a coach who coaches strictly defense, like Bruce Bowen?

[The Truth #6]

I would think Pop coaches defense pretty well. But I agree that Bowen could probably share some tricks. However I'm not sure he's cut out to be a coach. I think he likes being on camera and I'm not sure being lost in the shadows interests him at this stage.

[ChuckD]

It seems reasonable to assume that if the Spurs were only going to take a temporary flier on a guy short term then they would most likely bring in a vet.
But since they are going on recommendations of Ferry, then this guy may actually be here for the whole year, especially since they were once interested in drafting him as well as he fits most of the criteria of who they have been looking for.
With that in mind, since he seems to be showing promise, why don't they just go ahead and get Bruce to coach and mentor him?
I mean, they have a coach who coaches strictly shooting, so why not a coach who coaches strictly defense, like Bruce Bowen?

They've been bringing in and cutting young players for the better part of a year. I don't think it's a solid assumption that he's here for the duration.

[mexpurs21]

It seems reasonable to assume that if the Spurs were only going to take a temporary flier on a guy short term then they would most likely bring in a vet.
But since they are going on recommendations of Ferry, then this guy may actually be here for the whole year, especially since they were once interested in drafting him as well as he fits most of the criteria of who they have been looking for.
With that in mind, since he seems to be showing promise, why don't they just go ahead and get Bruce to coach and mentor him?
I mean, they have a coach who coaches strictly shooting, so why not a coach who coaches strictly defense, like Bruce Bowen?

+ J. Vaughn is the point guard coach

[SenorSpur]

Yeah, Sean was even saying on the telecast that Pop doesn't care if it's garbage time. He wants to see offensive plays run, and defense played in the team scheme. Since garbage time is all Green will likely see, he'd better start flying on those rotations. This will be his only chance to show his quality.

Which is one of the reasons Pop has been one of the NBA's more successful coaches.

[Bruno]

Green has a shot of being Spurs' centerpiece.
He has the right characteristics, but it's a matter of being good enough.

[sinok]

Green has a shot of being Spurs' centerpiece.
He has the right characteristics, but it's a matter of being good enough.

Centerpiece => Bogans second coming. So it's rather a matter of beeing bad enough.

[mountainballer]

I like the signing and I do think Green has a pretty good chance to stick.
as mentioned, his background will help him a lot. having played for Mike Brown and Roy Williams he will not have to be begged to play some tough pressure defense. Green might not have the perfect tools regarding athleticism and size, but he has about the same skill set like Raja Bell had, when he came out of college. (much likely a bit better).

[SenorSpur]

Green has a shot of being Spurs' centerpiece.
He has the right characteristics, but it's a matter of being good enough.

Centerpiece = Kiss of Death

[EricB]

I like the comparison of Raja Bell.

Although a little taller, at the moment their games are semi similar.

[lefty]

Centerpiece = Kiss of Death

Kiss of death = Mario Elie

Let's play a little game of...

[angelbelow]

Not that's he's played well, but what did you expect to glean from 20 games and 115 minutes (and you can bet virtually all of them came in garbage time)? The reality is, he hasn't really had a chance yet. I'm not saying he deserved one, especially on an elite team, but still. I wouldn't draw any conclusions based off of a terrible preseason.

Theoretically, Green is a better fit than Gee. Gee is a more intriguing talent with probably a higher upside, but ultimately, they're both going to have to make the league as role players if they're to stick and I think Green has a better chance of filling a role than Gee. Especially on this team. They need 3 and D out of the three spot. Those are supposed to be his strengths.

While im thinking along the same things that timvp are, these are good points. I also had questions on why he was waived from the Cavs team that didnt have lebron anymore, and how he really didnt look like an nba player in the few games where i watched him play. But again, this is a good post.

At the end of the day im gonna wait a long time before I get excited about this player. In the early days, I was a huge fan of Malik Hairston and cheered for him until he was ultimately waive. Last year I though Temple was the next big find given his rare combination of confidence, size and skill set. I couldnt catch the game but everyone has good things to say about the kid and I hope that continues.

[Bruno]

Centerpiece = Kiss of Death

While this centerpiece story has been a laughing stock, there are more to see behind it that just Pop has lost his mind with Bogans.

Pop quote was:
“He’s really the centerpiece of the whole thing. It sounds strange. You’ve got Timmy out there, and Tony and Manu — to say he’s the centerpiece. By that I mean … I like to have a starter who doesn’t need the ball, who gives us a defensive iden y … somebody I can say, ‘Go play him. Go do your best to stop him.’ For us, that’s been our style for 12 years.”

This quote is a huge homage to Bruce. Pop is pointing how important he was to Spurs success. Pop has been trying to find a player to play his role for years, even if obviously the new player won't be as good as Bruce. Spurs have tried players like James White!, Malik Hairston, Ime Udoka, Keith Bogans... Danny Green is the most recent try. If he plays solid defense and is able to hit, let's say 35%, of wide open corner 3's, Spurs will keep him and Pop will give him consistent minutes at least until Anderson comeback. These past 3 years, Spurs have had a player (Udoka or Bogans) playing 15-20mpg who played hard on the defensive end and was limited on offense. Danny Green could be this player for 2010/2011.

[xmas1997]

While this centerpiece story has been a laughing stock, there are more to see behind it that just Pop has lost his mind with Bogans.
This quote is a huge homage to Bruce. Pop is pointing how important he was to Spurs success. Pop has been trying to find a player to play his role for years, even if obviously the new player won't be as good as Bruce. Spurs have tried players like James White!, Malik Hairston, Ime Udoka, Keith Bogans... Danny Green is the most recent try. If he plays solid defense and is able to hit, let's say 35%, of wide open corner 3's, Spurs will keep him and Pop will give him consistent minutes at least until Anderson comeback. These past 3 years, Spurs have had a player (Udoka or Bogans) playing 15-20mpg who played hard on the defensive end and was limited on offense. Danny Green could be this player for 2010/2011.

Glad to see we somewhat agree on Green. Hope he turns out to be better than any of us expect.

[TD 21]

While im thinking along the same things that timvp are, these are good points. I also had questions on why he was waived from the Cavs team that didnt have lebron anymore, and how he really didnt look like an nba player in the few games where i watched him play. But again, this is a good post.

At the end of the day im gonna wait a long time before I get excited about this player. In the early days, I was a huge fan of Malik Hairston and cheered for him until he was ultimately waive. Last year I though Temple was the next big find given his rare combination of confidence, size and skill set. I couldnt catch the game but everyone has good things to say about the kid and I hope that continues.

It's real simple. You see, the Cavs need as much individual talent as they can cultivate right now. Harris outplayed him in preseason, so they decided to keep him. Whether Harris truly is a better talent remains to be seen.

For a team like the Spurs, they don't necessarily need that (not that it's ever bad to have or that you could ever have too much). What they need is a role player, someone who could potentially thrive playing off of a lot of talent. That's why I was more intrigued with Hairston than Gee and that's why I'm more intrigued with Green than Gee.

[jjktkk]

It's real simple. You see, the Cavs need as much individual talent as they can cultivate right now. Harris outplayed him in preseason, so they decided to keep him. Whether Harris truly is a better talent remains to be seen.

For a team like the Spurs, they don't necessarily need that (not that it's ever bad to have or that you could ever have too much). What they need is a role player, someone who could potentially thrive playing off of a lot of talent. That's why I was more intrigued with Hairston than Gee and that's why I'm more intrigued with Green than Gee.

The problem it seems, is that their are not a whole lot of young players out there who are willing to lay it out on the line defensively. It seems most are more concerned about scoring. Would love for Green to become a defensive stopper for this team.

[mountainballer]

It's real simple. You see, the Cavs need as much individual talent as they can cultivate right now. Harris outplayed him in preseason, so they decided to keep him. Whether Harris truly is a better talent remains to be seen.

this.
and the fact that they brought over Eyenga (their 1st round pick from 2009), who got 2 guaranteed years, plays the same position and as well has his strengths mainly on the defensive end.
(Eyenga will be a bust IMO, but that's another story)
Cavs are not special anymore, but they got a lot of depth at the wing, considering that Gibson and Sessions also play a lot off guard minutes.

Green was just the odd man out. hopefully they will regret soon that they decided to go with Harris and Eyenga.

[angelbelow]

It's real simple. You see, the Cavs need as much individual talent as they can cultivate right now. Harris outplayed him in preseason, so they decided to keep him. Whether Harris truly is a better talent remains to be seen.

For a team like the Spurs, they don't necessarily need that (not that it's ever bad to have or that you could ever have too much). What they need is a role player, someone who could potentially thrive playing off of a lot of talent. That's why I was more intrigued with Hairston than Gee and that's why I'm more intrigued with Green than Gee.

Well as I mentioned before, my knowledge of Greens situation with Cavs was indeed an opinion formed from a small sample size. I think you bring up great points.

The problem it seems, is that their are not a whole lot of young players out there who are willing to lay it out on the line defensively. It seems most are more concerned about scoring. Would love for Green to become a defensive stopper for this team.

That's where the moneys at I guess. An over simplification but IMO, there are 2 general types of players: players that chase the ring and players that chase the dough. As spurs fans, were used to the ones that chase the ring (Big 3 taking repeated paycuts as well as bowen, now apparently splitter etc.)

[xmas1997]

And Green, etc.
He has a lot to prove, but with Pops help, he will.
My money is on him.

[bluebellmaniac]

If Bruce Bowen clones were a dime a dozen or so easy to find, we'd already have a Bruce clone backing up a Bruce clone on our team right now...

You have to be blessed with the physical talent, have the mental focus, be lucky enough to be on a team that actually teaches you defense and then hope that a team on which all this can come together has a good enough scouting network to have it all come together... oh... and you have to be able to shoot the 3...

Evaluating someone as being the next Bruce Bowen is not easy, even for the Spurs... but if any team can do it, it will be the Spurs... wow, we miss that guy!

[Darkwaters]

While this centerpiece story has been a laughing stock, there are more to see behind it that just Pop has lost his mind with Bogans.

Pop quote was:
“He’s really the centerpiece of the whole thing. It sounds strange. You’ve got Timmy out there, and Tony and Manu — to say he’s the centerpiece. By that I mean … I like to have a starter who doesn’t need the ball, who gives us a defensive iden y … somebody I can say, ‘Go play him. Go do your best to stop him.’ For us, that’s been our style for 12 years.”

This quote is a huge homage to Bruce. Pop is pointing how important he was to Spurs success. Pop has been trying to find a player to play his role for years, even if obviously the new player won't be as good as Bruce. Spurs have tried players like James White!, Malik Hairston, Ime Udoka, Keith Bogans... Danny Green is the most recent try. If he plays solid defense and is able to hit, let's say 35%, of wide open corner 3's, Spurs will keep him and Pop will give him consistent minutes at least until Anderson comeback. These past 3 years, Spurs have had a player (Udoka or Bogans) playing 15-20mpg who played hard on the defensive end and was limited on offense. Danny Green could be this player for 2010/2011.

James White!

[Darkwaters]

Spurs have tried players like James White!, Malik Hairston, Ime Udoka, Keith Bogans... Danny Green is the most recent try.

Melvin Sanders, Marcus Williams, Giorgio Printezis (okay, not really)...

[ace3g]

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Spurs waived guard/forward Danny Green. Green was signed Nov. 17 and appeared in two games, averaging 3.0 points in 4.5 minutes.