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I'm not fine with it. I'm flying with family in early december and will submit to the scanners if necessary to save time. However, I'm flying with a few buds to LV in February and I intend to make my voice heard then.
Quotes from the AP's article TSA chief warns against boycott of airport scans
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101123/...rport_security
"Whatever keeps the country safe, I just don't have a problem with," Leah Martin, 50, of Houston, said as she waited to go through security at the Atlanta airport.
At Chicago's O'Hare Airport, Gehno Sanchez, a 38-year-old from San Francisco who works in marketing, said he doesn't mind the full-body scans. "I mean, they may make you feel like a criminal for a minute, but I'd rather do that than someone touching me," he said.
Why does it surprise you? Americans were just fine with Bush trampling all over their civil liberties when they were scared. Why would it be any different under Obama?
I'm not fine with it. I'm flying with family in early december and will submit to the scanners if necessary to save time. However, I'm flying with a few buds to LV in February and I intend to make my voice heard then.
to be fair, if done well its not that outrageous- many jobs/places require it and, done well, it accomplishes its purpose without humiliating people. A big part of the problem is the way its done- like searching kids, the ill, the elderly, etc etc. It seems they're doing it to a lot of people and instead of using discretion, they are purposely being as obtuse and obnoxious about it as possible. I should say i barely fly now and am getting the bulk of my information through this thread, but I think this could have been done better and maybe you'd see 80-90% approval- nobody wants to be thinking they're going to die thousands of feet in the air.
on the other hand, there are the ethical and practical limitations. I have to say, from here it appears that it took American prudiness to draw a reaction (the Patriot Act had vocal critics but not nearly enough). and I think boutons is right that this is just a company lobbying its way to a market for its product and a nice juicy contract. If there was a real freedom loving capitalist society, wouldn't it just let the market decide and offer both types of flights, "super safe" and "standard safe"? As it is, its resources you dont have being poorly spent, and curiously enough the owner of the company sells the equipment to the agency he used to work for. Does it get any more obvious? even cereal box contests have rules against that.
What are civil liberties again?
"50% of Americans are ok with the 'enhanced patdowns' "
A poll last week found that 50% of Americans d0n't know that the Repugs won the House.
Americans are ignorant TV-watching idiots, just exactly the way the corps like them.
I agree with you. Since the procedure is new, I'll bet most the 54% haven't seen or been screened that way yet.
I think it's pretty damned selfish to say you're okay with something that HALF of America finds invasive.
You know, I'm not personally embarrassed by the thought of someone seeing me naked or giving me a pat-down either, but I'm offended on behalf of those who are.
No . I'm with you. I've visited nude beaches in my birthday suit, and am not embarrassed for myself either. It is simply not right to do what they are doing.
they'll produce more cancer in Americans than they will catch terrorists.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...jph-letter.pdf
What makes being "naked" in an X-ray machine or searched different than being told you can't marry the person you want to, have a doctor kill you peacefully because your health makes you want to die, need medical treatments or procedures but don't have insurance to pay for the cost? The TSA is not offensive to life, it's hardly a cause for all to unite in empathy. I feel worse for the people that will never have a chance to fly at all because they don't have the money, have a health condition, or get put on a no-fly list because of some mistaken iden y .
In short, big ing deal. The only thing that concerns me is the radiation, but you get plenty of radiation when flying so mehhh.
You have a choice between being unreasonably searched or unreasonably siezed.
If you don't wanna submit, rent a car. Wait, you can't rent a car without a credit card? Where's the ACLU?
Body scanner makers doubled lobbying cash over 5 years
Not only have they increased their lobbying efforts over the last 5 years, they're doing it with some very familiar names.
USA Today reports that the companies with the biggest government contracts for body-scanners doubled their lobbying cash over the last five years, and advanced their agenda with lobbyists Linda Daschle, a former FAA official and wife of former Senate majority leader Tom Daschle, and former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff.
"Many travelers said that the scans and the pat-down were not much of an inconvenience, and that the stepped-up measures made them feel safer and were, in any case, unavoidable."
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/r...-cash-5-years/
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The fat, self-diseased, ignorant, sleep-walking American sheeple have spoken.
I'm flying in 3 weeks and I'm taking the scanner. I guess if radiation is an issue, there will be a class-action at some point, earning me $15 in settlement money. Plus a third eye might come handy at some point...
I didn't realize we had to choose which among those things to be offended by. Do I exceed my indignation limit if I don't like any of it?
Pretty much. It's your choice.
http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-...122-183og.html
My understanding is it takes that third eye away from you if you have one. Not give you one.
Not in any way constructive to the debate, but funny as .
domestic terrorism:
preventable/avoidable "98,000 deaths and more than one million injuries a year in the United States."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/25/he...gewanted=print
OBL would love to claim those stats.
I think it was Neal Boortz who joked about just having chambers that one person at a time goes through. If there are any explosives with you, they explode.
Not in any way constructive to the debate, but funny as .
Damn, the Statue of Liberty is a lot hotter than I would have expected.
French women aren't as fat as American women.
TSA flags 18-month-old baby as terrorist, forces family to disembark plane
Bumbling TSA agents at the Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., airport recently pulled an 18-month old girl, named Riyanna, and her parents off of a JetBlue flight as they tried to head home to New Jersey because - get this - the toddler appeared on the terrorist suspect "no-fly" list.
http://www.naturalnews.com/035856_TS...sm_babies.html
America is ed, insane, and un able.
another good one:A federal officer was watching passengers at Sacramento International Airport on Wednesday when one caught his eye.
A young man in line, unshaven and carrying a backpack, apparently looked su ious.
The officer was not a typical Transportation Security Administration screener. He was a specially trained Behavior Detection Officer. BDOs work in the agency's Screening of Passengers by Observation Techniques program (SPOT) and are trained to study a person's face and body language for hints of his mental state.
They roam all parts of the airport, including curbside.
"Officers are screening travelers for involuntary physical and physiological reactions that people exhibit in response to a fear of being discovered," the TSA says on its website.
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/08/3...#storylink=cpy
What if you crap out and get a third testicle instead?
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