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While not a simple matter, I think that South Korea should be calm but direct. Address North Korea in front of the UN, turn to China and Russia and let them know that this was an act of aggression that will not go unpunished if China and Russia don't step in and slap the crap out of their little step child NK.
Make sure that those countries understand that if nothing is to be done, then the bully will be dealt with. Again, this is a delicate situation, but I'd tell North Korea that the next time some act of aggression happens, there will be serious consequences. If said aggression happens again, bomb the out of the nuclear plant the North said they wouldn't build.
Finally, I'd let the North know that any retaliation for the bombing will result in the North Korean capital being wiped from the face of the Earth (as I'm sure Seoul will be the targetof the North's aggression).
Both countries are still at war with each other, and I'm sure the South Korean government has contingency plans for its capitol.
First and foremost (and most importantly) use diplomacy with the North's allies to try and diffuse the situation. If the North still acts up despite China's request to stop (should they make one) the South will have shown that the North is completely out of control and must be dealt with in a swift manner to protect itself and others from a total nutjob.
As much as I DON'T advocate violence, turning the other cheek doesn't always work. Europe turned the other cheek to Hitler and we all know that story. The North won't do what Germany did, but diplomacy doesn't always work with a bully. Sometimes the bully needs to be knocked on his ass, as horrible as that sounds because war is horror.
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LOL... Manny is the resident expert... cracks me up! He is a meteorologist, Dr, political expert, war strategist, poker pro... he can even tell your wife how to properly change her tampon or your dog how to prevent from sticking to its fur when he takes a dump... all knowledge he gained from reading about it on the internet!!!
North Korea. If we weren't already 170,000 deep on that side of the globe, I'd support warring for our democratic Korean brothers. Plus we must preserve the state of StarCraft.
He also does taxes.
South Korea Lee's under pressure over North attack
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AN2E120101124
Fact is, if you deliberately attack another sovereign nation, kill its civilians and military, that is an act of war and must be responded to.(Reuters) - South Korean President Lee Myung-bak's government was criticized at home on Wednesday for its slow response to a North Korean attack, with lawmakers and media saying it was now time to get tough.
Lee has vowed a firm response to Tuesday's attack by North Korea, but Seoul too has no desire for a serious conflict. While North Korea would certainly lose any war, it would be able to do enormous damage to the South with its vast artillery.
Lee won office in 2008 vowing to take an uncompromising stand with neighboring North Korea, but for the second time this year his conservative government is being criticized for being indecisive in responding to crises involving the mercurial state.
In March, Lee's government was criticized for responding too slowly to the sinking of a South Korean warship in the same area. Forty-six sailors were killed in the attack the South blamed on the North. Pyongyang said it wasn't to blame.
A day after the North fired a barrage of artillery s s at the island of Yeonpyeong, killing two civilians and soldiers, members of Lee's own party and opposition lawmakers accused the South's military of being too weak and responding too late.
In a fiery parliamentary hearing, Defense Minister Kim Tae-young was grilled by lawmakers who said the government should have taken quicker and stronger retaliatory measures against the North's provocation.
"I am sorry that the government has not carried out ruthless bombing through jet fighters during the North's second round of s ing," Kim Jang-soo, a lawmaker of the ruling Grand National Party and a former defense minister, was quoted as saying by Yonhap news agency during the national defense committee.
"Why did we shoot only 80 s s even as the North fired 170?" asked Sim Dae-pyung, chairman of the minor opposition People First Party.
Kim explained the current operational manual calls for retaliatory attacks of up to double the firepower employed by the enemy and using the equivalent types of weapons to those used by the enemy.
Lawmakers also quizzed Kim about the apparent lack of intelligence about the attack. He replied that the North had sent warning statements concerning the South's test firing exercises in the area, but these threats mirrored previous rhetoric from Pyongyang which had amounted to nothing.
The small conservative Liberty Forward Party hit out at the South's military for responding too slowly, demanding to know why it took some 15 minutes to respond to the North Korean s ing.
A party source told Yonhap that "when an enemy attacks, battle preparations have to be made within five minutes but after North Korea's first shots the South Korean army responded with fire after 15 minutes."
"After North Korea's second attack also, it took 15 minutes to respond with fire."
Editorials in local media also said it was now time for retaliation.
The JoongAng Daily urged Lee to send a clear message to the North, saying the North's provocation had "gone beyond our imagination."
Fact is, if your opponent has an army many times the size of yours (standing army: 1 million; reserves, 8 million), thousands of tanks and artillery units, nuclear weapons, and is massed on a border less than 100 miles away from your capitol, you don't act rashly.
Im not saying act rashly, im saying act...
North Korea doesn't have nuclear weapons. They can't even develop a proper rocket to deliver them. The North would lose.
I say use diplomacy not with the North, but with its allies. Let China know that you don't appreciate (to say the least) what the North did and will act if nothing is done. Basically, tell any ally the North has that if they don't do something about it, you will. And by doing nothing you agree with the South and any response you have towards the North.
In a diplomatic and political way of course.
Or you could carry out some black ops (not the game) and have the leader assassinated. Of course, that's really a call to war, but that would definitely send a message.
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Really? Then explain to me why they haven't gone to war even though this has happened before?
1950s
February 1958: North Korean agents hijack a South Korean airliner to Pyongyang en route from Pusan to Seoul; 1 American pilot, 1 American passenger, 2 West German passengers, and 24 other passengers were released in early March, but 8 other passengers remained in the North.[1]
[edit]1960s
April 27, 1965: Two North Korean MiG-17s attack a United States EC-121 Warning Star reconnaissance plane above the Sea of Japan, 80 km (50 miles) from the North Korean shore. The aircraft was damaged, but managed to land at Yokota Air Base, Japan.[2][3]
January 17, 1968: In an incident known as the Blue House Raid, a 31-man detachment from the Korean People's Army secretly crosses the DMZ on a mission to kill South Korean President Park Chung-hee on January 21, nearly succeeding. The incursion was discovered after South Korean civilians confronted the North Koreans and informed the authorities. After entering Seoul disguised as South Korean soldiers, the North Koreans attempt to enter the Blue House (the official residence of the President of South Korea). The North Koreans are confronted by South Korean police and a firefight ensued. The North Koreans fled Seoul and individually attempted to cross the DMZ back to North Korea. Of the original group of 31 North Koreans, 28 were killed, one was captured, and two are unaccounted for. Additionally, 68 South Koreans were killed and 66 were wounded, the majority of whom were soldiers and police officers. Three American soldiers were also killed and three were wounded.[4]
January 23, 1968: The United States Naval ship the USS Pueblo is boarded and captured, along with its crew, by North Korean forces in the Sea of Japan, in international waters. The entire crew of 83 is captured, with the exception of one sailor killed in the initial attack on the vessel, and the vessel is taken into North Korean waters. All the captives were released on December 23 of the same year via the Bridge of No Return at the DMZ. The USS Pueblo is still in North Korean possession and is docked in Pyongyang and is on display as a museum ship.[5]
October 30, 1968: From October 30 to November 2, 120 to 130 North Korean commandos land on the northeast shore of South Korea, allegedly to wage a guerilla war against the South Korean government. A total of 110 to 113 were killed, seven were captured, and 13 escaped. Around 20 South Korean civilians, law enforcment officers, and soldiers were killed.[3][6]
March 1969: Six North Korean commandos kill a South Korean police officer near Jumunjin, Gangwon-do. Seven American soldiers are killed in a North Korean attack along the DMZ.[7]
April 1969: An EC-121, US reconnaissance plane is shot down 90 miles (140 km) east of the North Korean coast, leaving 31 dead.
November 1969: Four US soldiers are killed by North Koreans in the Demilitarized Zone.
[edit]1970s
April 1970: In Geumchon, a region of Paju south of the DMZ, a clash leaves three North Korean soldiers dead and five South Korean soldiers wounded.
June 1970: The North Korean navy seizes a broadcast vessel from the South near the Northern Limit Line. 20 crew are captured.
February 1974: Two South Korean fishing vessels are sunk and 30 crew detained by the North.
June 1976: An incursion south of the DMZ in Gangwon-do leaves three dead from the North and six from the South.
August 18, 1976: The Axe Murder Incident -- an attempt to clear brush in the Demilitarized Zone near Panmunjom ends with two US soldiers dead.
October 1979: Three North Koreans enter the eastern DMZ. One is killed.
December 1979: One US Army Soldier killed, 3 US Soldiers wounded after stumbling into a North Korean minefield in a heavy fog while patrolling DMZ. One body is recovered from the North Koreans 5 days later.
[edit]1980s
March 1980: Three North Koreans are killed while trying to cross the Han River estuary.
March 1981: Three North Koreans try to enter the South in Geumhwa-eup, Cheorwon, Gangwon-do; one is killed.
July 1981: Three North Koreans are killed trying to cross the Imjin River to the South.
November 1984: Three North Korean soldiers and one South Korean soldier die, and one American soldier is wounded during the firefight that erupted when a North Korean security detail chased a defecting Soviet citizen (Vasily Matusak) across the MDL into the southern-controlled sector of the Joint Security Area.
[edit]1990s
May 1992: Three Northern soldiers in South Korean uniforms are killed in Cheolwon, Gangwon-do; three South Korean soldiers are wounded.
May 1995: North Korean forces fire on a South Korean fishing boat, killing three.
October 1995: Two armed North Koreans are discovered at the Imjin River; one is killed.
April 1996: Several hundred armed North Korean troops cross repeatedly into the Demilitarized Zone.
May 1996: Seven Northern soldiers cross south of the Demilitarized Zone, but retreat after warning shots are fired.
May & June 1996: North Korean vessels twice cross the Northern Limit Line and have a several-hour standoff with the South Korean navy.
April 1997: Five North Korean soldiers cross the Demilitarized Zone in Cheolwon, Gangwon-do, and fire on South Korean positions.
June 1997: Three North Korean vessels cross the Northern Limit Line and attack South Korean vessels two miles (3 km) south of the line. On land, fourteen North Korean soldiers cross 70 m south of the center of the DMZ, leading to a 23-minute exchange of fire.
June 1999: A series of clashes between North and South Korean vessels take place in the Yellow Sea near the Northern Limit Line.
[edit]2000s
2001: On twelve separate occasions, North Korean vessels cross the Northern Limit Line and then retreat.
November 27, 2001: North and South Korean forces exchange fire without injuries.
June 29, 2002: Renewed naval clashes near the Northern Limit Line lead to the deaths of four South Korean sailors and the sinking of a North Korean vessel. The number of North Koreans killed is unknown.
November 16, 2002: South Korean forces fire warning shots on a Northern boat crossing the Northern Limit Line. The boat retreats. The incident is repeated on November 20.
February 19, 2003: A North Korean fighter plane crosses seven miles (11 km) south of the Northern Limit Line, and returns north after being intercepted by six South Korean planes.
March 2, 2003: Four North Korean fighter jets intercept a US reconnaissance plane over the Sea of Japan.
July 17, 2003: North and South Korean forces exchange fire at the DMZ around 6 AM. The South Korean army reports four rounds fired from the North and seventeen from the South. No injuries are reported. [8]
November 1, 2004: North Korean vessels, claiming to be in pursuit of illegal fishing craft, cross the Northern Limit Line and are fired upon by the South. The vessels retreat 3 hours later.
July 30, 2006: Several rounds are exchanged near a South Korean post in Yanggu, Gangwon.
Wikinews has related news: Korean navies exchange fire
November 10, 2009: Naval vessels from the two Koreas exchanged fire in the area of the NLL, reportedly causing serious damage to a North Korean patrol ship.[9] For more details of this incident, see Battle of Daecheong.
[edit]2010
March 26, 2010: A South Korean naval vessel, the ROKS Cheonan, was sunk by an explosion near Baengnyeong Island in the Yellow Sea. A rescue operation recovered 58 survivors but 46 sailors were lost. On May 20, 2010, a South Korean led international investigation group concluded that the sinking of the warship was in fact the result of a North Korean torpedo attack.[10][11] North Korea denied involvement.[12] The United Nations Security Council made a Presidential Statement condemning the attack but without identifying the attacker.[13]
November 23, 2010: North Korea fired artillery at South Korea's Big Yeonpyeong island in the Yellow Sea and South Korea returned fire. Two South Korean marines were killed, six were seriously wounded, and ten were treated for minor injuries.[14] [15][16]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ng_North_Korea
That they pulled in the 60s is way worse than this and somehow war was avoided even though by your rational there should have been all out war to wipe them out. Wonder why.
Hey buddy, no one is arguing with you that it would be a pretty complicated thing, going to war with NK. As everyone else but you can see, you like to create conflict and arguments where there are none, i guess to try and make yourself look superior...whatever...
As you have just shown, sitting on your hands and hoping they leave you alone doesn't seem to be working too well...now what?
What is your side Manny? You still haven't answered this. What does Manny do if his country is constantly being attacked by a neighboring aggressive country?
Would you really blame SK if they decided enough is enough?
Thats you projecting that you feel inferior. I asked you to explain the inconsistency of your stance but apparently that makes you feel bad.
I knew this was going to be your response. Actually, the point of avoiding war has been to avoid casualties in the millions. They've done that extremely successfully given the situation.As you have just shown, sitting on your hands and hoping they leave you alone doesn't seem to be working too well...now what?
I don't have a side in this other than wanting Americans not to be involved in a war thousands of miles from the US because of troops leftover from the cold war.What is your side Manny? You still haven't answered this. What does Manny do if his country is constantly being attacked by a neighboring aggressive country?
Would you really blame SK if they decided enough is enough?
Whats the point of retaliation? To stop the attacks, but why? Because attacks put your population in danger. One of the fundamental principles of a national government is to safeguard the governed.
If retaliation actually puts them in more danger then it seems to be rather counterproductive. As I said before, this isn't a matter of principal but pragmatism.
Like you have much of a choice? Sometimes I wonder how Americans can function everyday with their heads so far up their ass's.Hey!
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You don't have to be Manny (or rocket scientist) to see how huge mega stores are putting many middle class business filing for bankruptcy. I mean we have hunting and fishing laws to keep from losing all wildlife why not make laws to insure Americans don't lose their jobs to China? I guess a salmon is worth more than a father of 3 kids.
As for the topic, those of you who disagree with our troops getting involved in south Korea then why didn't you say something before, you had as far back as s 1953 to complain. No one said anything before we put a military base there.
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the sk defence minister just resigned, dont know what else was he going to do? respond and have all out war?
US will just give SK more money not to do anything
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