Is Dirk the best offensive player in the game right now?

[024]

i think has been for a while.

[TD 21]

The increase in rebounding in the playoffs is more of a result of playing more minutes than anything. There is no argument to be made that he's a good rebounder. This isn't an opinion oriented thing, the statistics bear it out. It's not just average, it's percent. He fails at both.

In terms of assists, that doesn't necessarily mean a player is a good passer. He played more of his career with more firepower surrounding him than Gasol did, yet Gasol still is a half an assist higher per game. Not just because of those numbers, but Gasol is clearly a better passer.

As for their rebounding, Gasol, like Nowitzki, was a terrible rebounder. Unlike Nowitzki, he's become a good (not great, though, only at just over 16% this season, still well short of the big boys, despite his high average, which is a direct result of being well over 7-feet and playing roughly 38 mpg) rebounder the past few seasons.

[sefant77]

The increase in rebounding in the playoffs is more of a result of playing more minutes than anything. There is no argument to be made that he's a good rebounder. This isn't an opinion oriented thing, the statistics bear it out. It's not just average, it's percent. He fails at both.

career minutes 36.7
career rebounding 8.5

min/rebound 4.3

playoff minutes 41.7
playoff rebounding 10.9

min/rebound 3.8

No its not more a result of playing time than anything.

In terms of assists, that doesn't necessarily mean a player is a good passer. He played more of his career with more firepower surrounding him than Gasol did, yet Gasol still is a half an assist higher per game. Not just because of those numbers, but Gasol is clearly a better passer.

d´oh

Assists number are based more in which system you play than on "firepower" around you

Thats why Steve Nash numbers skyrocked with the Suns not because he became a twice so good passer

Between Nash and Kidd Dirk played for years in an iso based offense with less assisted baskets in general.

Best case Gasol is a slightly better passer than Dirk.

As for their rebounding, Gasol, like Nowitzki, was a terrible rebounder. Unlike Nowitzki, he's become a good (not great, though, only at just over 16% this season, still well short of the big boys, despite his high average, which is a direct result of being well over 7-feet and playing roughly 38 mpg) rebounder the past few seasons.

just give it up.

Even in his last two career year playoffs with the Lakers Gasol didnt reach Dirks career playoff AVERAGE.

Gasol is piling up rebounds because he plays center and on PG-SF they have just average rebounders.

[TD 21]

career minutes 36.7
career rebounding 8.5

min/rebound 4.3

playoff minutes 41.7
playoff rebounding 10.9

min/rebound 3.8

No its not more a result of playing time than anything.



d´oh

Assists number are based more in which system you play than on "firepower" around you

Thats why Steve Nash numbers skyrocked with the Suns not because he became a twice so good passer

Between Nash and Kidd Dirk played for years in an iso based offense with less assisted baskets in general.

Best case Gasol is a slightly better passer than Dirk.



just give it up.

Even in his last two career year playoffs with the Lakers Gasol didnt reach Dirks career playoff AVERAGE.

Gasol is piling up rebounds because he plays center and on PG-SF they have just average rebounders.

A large part is playing more minutes.

A large part is surrounding firepower. I didn't say solely.

Nash's assists skyrocketed with the Suns partially because of the system (faster pace led to more possessions), but also because of the firepower surrounding him.

Gasol is a clear cut better passer than Nowitzki.

Gasol's rebounding improved last season. His rebound percentage was better in the past two playoffs than Nowitzki's career playoff average.

I don't know why Mavs fans bother arguing. Nowitzki is mostly a one dimensional player. Doesn't mean he's not a very good player or won't be going to the Hall-of-Fame, though.

[diego]

Umm Dirk's fadeaway jumper is literally impossible to stop. I have never seen another player able to stop it EVER.

if thats the case why don't the mavs score every trip down? why do they have 10 pt quarters?

[IronMexican]

Looking good so far.

[Ghazi]

Dirk's shooting is insane through 14.5 games this year...

[Hemotivo]

dirk should be a SF

[diego]

exactly, he misses. when i think of impossible to stop, i think of jordan on the drive or shaq in the paint. double teams? he's not the first player to face a double. like you say, he has to be on fire. the mavs inability to capitalize on the doubles he draws is a big part of the problem.

[MavFan6488]

dirk vs. the spurs: 26 pts on 12-14 shooting....

[Venti Quattro]

dirk should be a SF

nope.

[Agloco]

dirk vs. the spurs: 26 pts on 12-14 shooting....

What's more astounding is that he did all of his damage WITHOUT a single free throw......


That's right, he never even went to the line. Just ing insane.

Yeah, he's the best as of now.