...he's under 18 and, therefore, doesn't hold a Concealed Handgun License.
Armed student seizes hostages at Wisconsin school
If that teacher were armed, this might be over right now.
Also, with the potential to kill as many as were killed at Columbine, why isn't this wall-to-wall in the United States? Why is the first link on Google to a UK Paper?
UPDATE: My bad...apparently, it is going wall-to-wall.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/us...ge.html?src=mvAll of the hostages were released unharmed after about five hours. The student, 15, shot himself after police officers entered the room, Chief Jeff Skorik of the Marinette police said. He was taken to a hospital, and his condition was not immediately known.
Would an armed teacher have made the situation safer for students, Yoni?
With good gun control; absolutely.
Wouldn't the foreknowledge of armed teachers necessitate killing teachers as a matter of course?
I meant in this case.
Without another firearm to escalate the situation, the resolution was safe for all but the shooter, who ended up shooting only himself.
If CHL's were as ubiquitous as DL's there would be no way to know if the teacher were armed; so, no. Besides, crazy, suicidal idiots rarely follow "a matter of course."
If he had been neutralized when he entered the room, there wouldn't have been hours of not knowing.
They'll probably be forced to if CHLs become ubiquitous.
Students will disarm teachers and kill them with their own sidearms. You know that, right?
Teachers will shoot students without good cause.
It's a real bad idea, Yoni. There's no need to militarize classrooms.
They'll still be crazy and suicidal.
But, to carry your point to the ultimate conclusion; I don't believe people should be required to obtain a license to carry a gun. Then, no one would know who is armed. We would all be free to exercise our cons utional right to self defense.
Was there a law that prevented that 15 year-old from using a gun to hold 23 students hostage for several hours? Nope.
Then, there shouldn't be a law that would prevent that teacher from putting a bullet in his head, given the opportunity.
Most schools have campus police officers. How many have been killed with their own weapons after being disarmed by a student?
Your argument is the same as the one used to oppose CHL in the first place and, what do you know, we haven't turned into a combat zone.
We don't do it in schools, and that ain't a bad idea IMO.
Until they reached for the concealed weapon, causing panic. Or until they shot someone.
Shooting someone is a cons utional right?
Defending yourself necessarily requires a gun?
Teachers aren't part of a uniformed police force.
Furthermore, in many schools (read: public schools, inner city schools, underfunded schools), a teacher's only hope of ever having any semblance of authority and/or positive effect on disenfranchised youths comes specifically from the fact that they are NOT part of a uniformed police force. Are you seriously suggesting we allow teachers to carry guns in an already hostile public school system as a positive thing? Or are you so removed from public schools and the poor folks who need them that you're not even considering their existence in your proposal?
I like how every CHL holder is Rambo just waiting for his chance to blast some Viet Cong.
Really? Every single person?
Geez, I better go get a red bandana and start working on my abs then. I guess I hadn't been paying attention to Chumpdumpers description of me prior to this........my bad.
I see where VA is pushing to allow arming all college students.
Drunk, stoned college kids, excellent, reliable weapons experts.
I like how people make ignorant comments like this.
CHL folks are 99.999999% old, angry, jealous, racist white men who want to serve out some old school justice.
Hey, as yoni just illustrated, the line in these situations is invariably "well, if people were allowed to have handguns there, the guy would have been taken out quickly and efficiently."
If you guys are saying you as a CHL holder wouldn't have gone into Bronson mode in this situation and don't claim others would, bravo.
Man some of you got chump dumped pretty hard there.
I wouldn't have because I'm just out to get the Viet Cong as you said earlier.
How do you figure?
Man some of you got chump dumped pretty hard there.
Man some of you got chump dumped pretty hard there.
lol son, try going to a local CHL class and educate yourself. Sure you have some of the 400 lb. weekend warrior gold-plated gear junkies, but you would be surprised.
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