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    Too much Kobe dooms Lakers

    The Los Angeles Lakers might have to learn that a little less Kobe Bryant may go a long way this season.

    On Tuesday, Bryant scored 29 points but it took him 25 shots to get there in a 98-96 loss to the Memphis Grizzlies. During the Lakers current three-game losing streak, Bryant has attempted at least 20 shots in each game and has averaged 26.3 FGA per game.

    This season, the Lakers are 2-3 when Bryant attempts at least 25 shots in a game, compared to 11-2 when he attempts fewer than 25 shots.

    Look even deeper and you will see that all five of the Lakers losses have come when Bryant has at least 20 shots. When Bryant attempts fewer than 20 shots, the Lakers are 7-0.
    Odd, from what I've read/heard from most Lakers fans I could've sworn all of this losing was due to Pau Gasol being "too soft."

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    Kobe "6/25er" Bryant


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    Kobe wasn't the reason why the Lakers lost to the Grizz last night.. He SHOULD have taken the last shot.

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    Kobe wasn't the reason why the Lakers lost to the Grizz last night.. He SHOULD have taken the last shot.
    he woulda been blocked, he had to pass it..the man doesn't have ups like he used to

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    Kobe is bricking his way along in the race with James to see who can get the lower fg%

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    bump

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    Hahaha, that's hilarious.

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    Odd, from what I've read/heard from most Lakers fans I could've sworn all of this losing was due to Pau Gasol being "too soft."
    It's both. Kobe is a ballhog. Nothing new here. But Pau has also played soft at times in some of the games.

    In the five games Kobe has taken 25 or more shots, Pau is shooting 42.2% from the field himself and averaging 2 fewer free throw attempts than in the other games. So when he's not shooting efficiently from the field, he gets passive instead of getting more aggressive and trying to get to the free throw line. We all know Kobe is the other way. Even if Kobe isn't hitting his shot, he'll keep shooting and will stay aggressive. Pau has been pretty consistent rebounding the ball, but when he misses a few shots, he shrivels up on offense.

    In the 5 Laker losses, Pau is shooting a much better 48.6% from the field, but it's still down considerably from the 55.7% from the field he shoots in the Laker wins.

    There is no doubt Kobe still hasn't figured out how not to go fullblown blackhole in close games where he's not shooting efficiently. But that doesn't excuse Pau entirely from playing soft at times as well.

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    It's both. Kobe is a ballhog. Nothing new here. But Pau has also played soft at times in some of the games.

    In the five games Kobe has taken 25 or more shots, Pau is shooting 42.2% from the field himself and averaging 2 fewer free throw attempts than in the other games. So when he's not shooting efficiently from the field, he gets passive instead of getting more aggressive and trying to get to the free throw line. We all know Kobe is the other way. Even if Kobe isn't hitting his shot, he'll keep shooting and will stay aggressive. Pau has been pretty consistent rebounding the ball, but when he misses a few shots, he shrivels up on offense.

    In the 5 Laker losses, Pau is shooting a much better 48.6% from the field, but it's still down considerably from the 55.7% from the field he shoots in the Laker wins.

    There is no doubt Kobe still hasn't figured out how not to go fullblown blackhole in close games where he's not shooting efficiently. But that doesn't excuse Pau entirely from playing soft at times as well.
    Is that a bad thing? IMO when a guy isn't feeling it is better for him to look for others a little bit more and don't force the issue like Kobe does.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    thats 2 losses in a row where Ron Artest touched the ball with 2 seconds left and pumped faked a 3 and ed up.

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    kobe will be alright, he just needs the power of the white women

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    Exactly. You can only win it every June. He's two in-a-row.

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    Aren't these the three games immediately following Gasol's triple double?

    Just sayin'.

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    Is that a bad thing? IMO when a guy isn't feeling it is better for him to look for others a little bit more and don't force the issue like Kobe does.
    Depends how you look at it. From my perspective, an offensive star big man in the league should not be passive on the court even if he's playing poorly on offense. Draw fouls, get to the free throw line, and maybe that will get your game going. If you're supposed to be one of the best offensive big men in the league, you shouldn't play passively on offense.

    Continuing to play aggressively still helps get your teammates good looks because it forces the defense to collapse even if you're not making your shots. Being smarter with your shot selection isn't the same thing as being passive. Pau gets passive. And it's not like he's piling assists when he shoots poorly from the field. In those 5 losses, Pau is only averaging 3 assists and not once got more than 4 assists in any of the games. His season average is 4.1 APG. So it's not like when he's not scoring efficiently, he's racking up assists. That shows he's playing passive as opposed to smarter but just looking for teammates more.

    If in these games where Pau has shot poorly, he was getting to the line a lot and racking up a lot of assists, then you'd have a point. But he's not. So no, I don't think playing passively on offense is a good thing for Pau. Depending how you look at it, Pau is the most important or second most important player for the Lakers offense. He needs to stay aggressive on offense even if he's not scoring efficiently.

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    Pau started reading his press clippings in small group discussion with Brown & Blake. Instead of rising to their own accomplishments, the trio got the scared out of 'em, and climbed into a hole.

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    What’s wrong with the Lakers? The usual.
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    The Lakers have lost three games in a row and the San Andreas Fault is the only thing that shakes up Los Angeles worse.

    Despite back-to-back les and a head coach who treats the regular season as a means to an end, Lakers fans can get pretty worked up — the team has only lost three straight once since Pau Gasol came to town. And no Phil Jackson championship team has ever lost four in a row, so clearly Wednesday night’s game in Houston is like Game 7 of the finals.

    There’s also hand wringing and pontificating about what is wrong with the Lakers? Why the losing streak?

    Meet the new loss, same as the old loss. What’s hurting the Lakers now are the same two things that cause all their losing streaks.

    First, they stop protecting the paint and the rim on defense. Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom’s natural instinct is not to block shots in the paint, if you combine that with a big man on the other team who can hit the midrange jumper — Marc Gasol did that, Roy Hibbert did that — then you pull the Lakers bigs out and make it harder for them to do what they don’t do that well anyway. (By the way, the Rockets can do this, too.)

    Andrew Bynum helps fix a lot of this. But even Gasol and Odom come playoff time become much better about this.

    Secondly, the Lakers get in the cycle of getting the ball inside less to Gasol and standing around and watching Kobe in isolation more. It’s a pattern you can see coming — the Lakers stop feeding Gasol and running the offense through him a few times in a row, and things stagnate. The Laker don’t get points.

    So Kobe decides to break the cycle, isolates and tries to take on more of the offense. He demands the ball, because he has that personality. The team defers, then stands around and watches him. Lather, rinse and repeat a few times down the court. And the offense gets more stagnant and the other team can overload their defense. Which Kobe is more than willing to take on singlehandedly, because he is Kobe.

    Phil Jackson doesn’t yell at Gasol and Odom to get their behinds back in the paint on defense, he doesn’t call a time out and scream to start throwing the ball back inside to Gasol. He lets the losses remind his players what works. He lets their compe ive natures teach the lesson, thinking a lesson you teach yourself is one you are better to remember. (He also knows he an afford the losses to teach the lessons in a way many teams cannot.)

    The Lakers are in one of those cycles now. Soon — maybe against the Rockets, maybe not — the Lakers will break out of it, start doing those things right again. Bynum will eventually return and change the dynamic on defense and on the glass.

    It is what it always is with the Lakers. Nothing to panic about, just some mid-season teaching.

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    Kobe is one of the dumbest and most overrated player in the league. Seriously, how can you shoot that much when you have a ing great team around you? The guy is just selfish, no other words can descibe him.


    I like how this guy talks about "installing his DNA" to his teammates and its all about winning and "defense" when he's clearly not even practicing what he preaches.



    I really, really, really hate this guy, I mean seriously. What a .

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    Kobe is one of the dumbest and most overrated player in the league. Seriously, how can you shoot that much when you have a ing great team around you? The guy is just selfish, no other words can descibe him.


    I like how this guy talks about "installing his DNA" to his teammates and its all about winning and "defense" when he's clearly not even practicing what he preaches.



    I really, really, really hate this guy, I mean seriously. What a .

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    If its any consolation, Pau Gasol's game gives me a boner.

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    If its any consolation, Pau Gasol's game gives me a boner.
    I used to get a boner when that Jamal Sampson girl was on the bench for the Lakers. He'd be dressed in the all black ensemble with the dangling earrings and his leg folded over the other like girls. I got that same outfit for Katie-girl one Xmas.

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    I used to get a boner when that Jamal Sampson girl was on the bench for the Lakers. He'd be dressed in the all black ensemble with the dangling earrings and his leg folded over the other like girls. I got that same outfit for Katie-girl one Xmas.
    OMG


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    He was striking though.

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    Kobe take less shots?

    He's due for a big game but he won't shoot any less. He wants to remind everyone he's the top dog regardless of games loss.

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    Kobe take less shots?

    He's due for a big game but he won't shoot any less. He wants to remind everyone he's the top dog regardless of games loss.
    you are right, those 5 rings on his fingers remind most people. He needs to calm down with his shots and let the team help him win his 3rd Finals MVP.

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    you are right, those 5 rings on his fingers remind most people. He needs to calm down with his shots and let the team help him win his 3rd Finals MVP.
    He didn't have a problem letting Shaq and Gasol help with those.

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