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  1. #51
    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    I have a 16 yr old that we've already begun researching for financial aid and grants. I hope we don't become " ty" parents.

  2. #52
    <><><><><><> ALVAREZ6's Avatar
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    sucks having re s for parents

  3. #53
    Linger Ficking Good! CuckingFunt's Avatar
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    This is very simple! Get a job! Two if you have to! This is part of the experience in growing up; the struggle. You will be better for it.
    Let's keep in mind part of the reason he's changing schools is to have a better social life.

    Which is telling.

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    I never realized it was such a pain in the ass to get listed independent; I just remember seeing it on my FAFSA back in the day. Well, your parents have you over a barrel. Either do what they say or change your major to EE or something that would be worth taking on that kind of debt.
    It's a ridiculous pain. And actually one of the reasons I ended up waiting so long to go back to a 4-year university.

    Which actually brings up another option. If the school you're interested in has it as an option, you could always defer enrollment for a year (or however long they allow) and take general ed classes at a local JC while working. If it's an option, it would make it possible to stay at home long enough for your parents to chill out while saving money for the move and more expensive school. Additionally, with general ed largely out of the way, you wouldn't have to pay the high tuition for as many years and you'd still get the degree from your school of choice. Could be a win-win, but depends on deferment options.

    Or, , don't bother with deferment and still do the JC option. If you got into the school now, it's doubtful you'd be rejected if you applied again in a year or two.

  5. #55
    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    My parents didn't pay for any college and they are far from being ty parents. My dad was old school though never got past the 6th grade and thought a HS diploma was an awesome achievement.

  6. #56
    Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Viva Las Espuelas's Avatar
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    Journalism?

    Theres your first mistake.

    You realize that career ain't what it used to be, right? Newspapers going broke, cutting staff, cutting salaries, etc.

    Its a total waste of 4 years and you will still end up flipping burgers.
    Yeah. Plus, if I'm not mistaken this is the dude that nuts over pinChé, so............

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    My parents didn't pay for any college and they are far from being ty parents. My dad was old school though never got past the 6th grade and thought a HS diploma was an awesome achievement.
    Really, your dad lived during his time period. Times have obviously changed.

  8. #58
    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    Really, your dad lived during his time period. Times have obviously changed.
    No doubt about it. He still doesn't understand that it ain't like it used to be where you could get out of HS and go straight to the GM factory and make the big bucks.

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    Start giving hand jobs to Ghazi.
    Fixed

  10. #60
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    You guys telling him to get a job or get two jobs if necessary simply aren't thinking rationally..no matter how many jobs he gets at minimum wage it's simply impossible to cover all the costs necessary to live on your own. Like someone pointed out we are talking several hundred bucks a month for food, 500 for housing, gas money, utilities, other needs that pop up, books, etc. It's just too hard these days to try to put yourself through college without your parents help while still being listed as a DEPENDENT. If you are seriously going to try to do it on your own, you need to be declared as an independent so you can get the proper student aid.

    And even if you could possibly afford all of your living expenses on minimum wage, good luck staying focused on school and finding productive study time while you're exhausted from a full-time work week. School is hard enough and a psychology professor once had a class-long discussion with us about how college is designed for FULL TIME students, meaning that they write the books, tests, etc under the assumption that you are a full time student and are there only to learn without any other major responsibilities. School is supposed to be your MAIN FOCUS while you are in college. While a journalism or liberal arts major may be able to get by working full time with no troubles, try earning a CPA, engineering degree, etc while working full time. I tried the working full time plus going to school full time thing once, and it sucks. After about 6 months I was ready to drop dead. My advice would be to suck it up and cooperate with your parents because they are your best friends at this point in life.

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    Not to mention I believe technically you are supposed to spend at least 2 hours outside of class each week studying for every 1 credit hour. So for a typical 3 credit hour course, you are required to study for 6 hours a week. For a student's carrying a 15 hour load (5 courses), this is 30 hours of studying a week, not counting the time spent in the classroom.

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    That's my mans! Red Hawk #21's Avatar
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    Let's keep in mind part of the reason he's changing schools is to have a better social life.

    Which is telling.
    What's wrong with that? Is it wrong to want to go to a school that has more activities and excitement? You must be old.

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    What's wrong with that? Is it wrong to want to go to a school that has more activities and excitement? You must be old.
    No. There's nothing wrong with that.

    It is, however, a fact that can probably be used as indication of your priorities and/or willingness to spend your free time working two jobs to pay for school.

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    Shiiiiiiiiiiit, that would pay his way to medical school

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    Stay home and you'll thank yourself 10 years from now when you're not in a ridiculous amount of debt. I know it's hard for an 18-20 year old to plan that far ahead, but seriously, do the math and put it all into perspective.

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    Or he could just declare himself an independent so they can't claim him on their taxes anymore.
    You think it would be that easy huh? Well, I don't know about wherever he may live, but here in Texas, even if you file as an independent, like myself, because I am under the age of 24 the state considers me a dependent only for school and says most of my tuition should come from my parents, which is ing bull .

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    What's wrong with that? Is it wrong to want to go to a school that has more activities and excitement? You must be old.
    Yeah if you're willing to spend 14,000 a year of your own cash or be badly in debt for the rest of your life for those "activities and excitement."

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    No. There's nothing wrong with that.

    It is, however, a fact that can probably be used as indication of your priorities and/or willingness to spend your free time working two jobs to pay for school.
    Well, I don't think It would be wise to work 2 jobs, since I need time to study. But I will definitely get a job to help pay for school. Thing is I need to get a scholarship so I can't work too much and risk my grades dropping.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    It's a ridiculous pain. And actually one of the reasons I ended up waiting so long to go back to a 4-year university.

    Which actually brings up another option. If the school you're interested in has it as an option, you could always defer enrollment for a year (or however long they allow) and take general ed classes at a local JC while working. If it's an option, it would make it possible to stay at home long enough for your parents to chill out while saving money for the move and more expensive school. Additionally, with general ed largely out of the way, you wouldn't have to pay the high tuition for as many years and you'd still get the degree from your school of choice. Could be a win-win, but depends on deferment options.

    Or, , don't bother with deferment and still do the JC option. If you got into the school now, it's doubtful you'd be rejected if you applied again in a year or two.
    I can rant for ing hours on this bull . It pisses me off so god damn much.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    A lot of scholarships require a 3.0 to apply but you're not going to get money thrown at you with a 3.0. You're going to need much higher.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    You think it would be that easy huh? Well, I don't know about wherever he may live, but here in Texas, even if you file as an independent, like myself, because I am under the age of 24 the state considers me a dependent only for school and says most of my tuition should come from my parents, which is ing bull .
    It is utter and complete bull . I feel for you because i went through that . Its one of the main reasons I left school when I was young and then went back at a much later age. I worked a few semesters at a full time job and went to school full time and it was not fun.

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    Yeah I already work almost 40 hours a week and I go to school full-time. It's a pain in the ass, but not much else I can do. My parents haven't given me any money for school since they're poor and in debt themselves, so I'm pretty ed.

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    Yeah I already work almost 40 hours a week and I go to school full-time. It's a pain in the ass, but not much else I can do. My parents haven't given me any money for school since they're poor and in debt themselves, so I'm pretty ed.
    At least you got a girl to help pay for expenses IIRC.

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    At least you got a girl to help pay for expenses IIRC.
    Yeah but she works at Petsmart...and she has plenty of her own stuff to pay for. But yeah, it helps, especially with food and stuff, but then again we have a bunch of pets too.

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    I can rant for ing hours on this bull . It pisses me off so god damn much.
    what's wrong with it?

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