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You playing into the blame-game?
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8909091183
From BBC News:
"The US has a hand in this plot, and these reports (posted by the WikiLeaks website) are part of the US psychological warfare," former Chief of the Staff of the Pakistani Army General Mirza Aslam Beg told FNA in Islamabad on Tuesday.
He stated that the US could prevent the leak of information if it wanted to do so, and warned that the real plot and conspiracy pursued by these reports will be unraveled in future.
Aslam Beg further reiterated that the CIA and Israel's spy agency Mossad have launched efforts to weaken and destabilize Pakistan, and WikiLeaks reports are part of these efforts.
The remarks by the Pakistani figure came after US embassy cables posted by WikiLeaks website sparked hot reactions in the region.
In one cable, the WikiLeaks claimed, Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah, a close ally of Pakistan, reportedly called Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari the main cause of his country's woes.
Pakistani President's office responded on Monday that the leaks were "no more than an attempt to create misperceptions between two important and brotherly Muslim countries".
Mr Putin said of the Wikileaks affair: "Some experts believe that somebody is deceiving Wikileaks to undermine their reputation, to use them for their own political purposes later on. That is one of the possibilities."
Last edited by Parker2112; 12-02-2010 at 03:30 AM.
You playing into the blame-game?
I dont understand why US is powerless to shut down Wikileaks. And I know the CIA's tentacles reach into some unlikely places. But other than that, I'm just putting it out there.
What do you think?
I think Wiki has done a good job spreading this information out to many different sources to protect itself and its founder, so it maybe an unstoppable runaway train...
Do you actually believe this?
I have no reason to believe this info. That doesnt mean it's not worth airing.
On the other hand, do you automatically dismiss it as completely incredible? Is this really that far beyond the scope of what the CIA is capable of?
Putin alluded to the same thing in a BBC News source.
Having no reason to believe something never stopped you from believing before.
Do you believe this?
Yes or no.
I automatically dismiss it unless you can produce a more credible source.On the other hand, do you automatically dismiss it as completely incredible? Is this really that far beyond the scope of what the CIA is capable of?
Putin is not more credible.
I like to get my hands on the info early and see if reality lines up to support it. I dont see the use in kicking the info out completely from the very beginning.
I suppose you are threatened by info that doesnt align with your view of reality Chump. I on the other hand am not. I dont have to believe information in order to hear it.
Although I admit yor selective approach might be better in the long run. More efficient maybe. So long as you are listening to the right sources from the start I guess.
Last edited by Parker2112; 12-02-2010 at 12:14 PM.
Who the IS credible these days? Certainly not your government, bub.
Who the says "bub"? Do you picture yourself as Wolverine posting conspiracy theories on a message board?
And you find the Iranian news agency credible.
You have a bias, and will believe the Iranian new agency if it confirms your bias. It is the complete opposite of an open mind, and it's hilarious you have deluded yourself into thinking otherwise.
My thoughts on the matter dont have a damn thing to do with Iranian News.
This is the first I've heard of this theory, but it would explain why our govt is so helpless when it comes to this rogue organization.
I dont think the US govt would allow this if it didnt serve their purpose on some level. Iranians dont have to tell me that.
As for my closed mind, you have yet to provide any credible evidence as to why this is not a possibility, so how the would you know if I am open to any other views.
You on the other hand, are completely closed off to anything that you cant read in a M$M source. Id say that is a major handicap, not a strength.
Bub.
You just demanded I prove a negative.
Fail.
a negative that you are asserting. if its unprovable then dont assert it, bub.
yeah that just happened chump
I never asserted it was completely impossible, bub. In said I am inclined not to believe the Iranian news agency because they are so full of , bub. Your bias has prevented you from being able to read and understand English, bub.
You believe the Iranian news agency and want to spread its message, bub.
That just happened, bub.
never said i believed em. you did. but why rely on what was actually said when you can put words in my mouth.
the bub is fun aint it?
just dont kill it for me.
So you don't believe them, bub?
It's very simple, bub.
You either believe them or you don't, bub.
I don't believe them because they are so full of , bub.
You want to keep an open mind about the Iranian news agency, bub.
No, bub. It isn't, bub.the bub is fun aint it?
Tough , bub.just dont kill it for me.
How would you shut down wikileaks? You can shut down a site, but it will just pop up elsewhere. And sharing classified info, AFAIK, isn't a crime unless you're been charged with protecting said info.
I think I just peed myself a little there.
yeah, it was pretty funny
I think I just peed myself a little there.
First off, generally one has to assume the opposite of any assertion, until that assertion is proven to a reasonable degree.
You are always very careful to not commit to things and hide behind "i'm just saying" or "I'm just asking questions".
It is fairly obvious that either you are simply trying to bait people, or simply provide some facile cover for your more paranoid views of reality.
It is a fun game to play. Let's see if you can detect the pattern here.
The implication and assertion is fairly clear here. I might never come out and make a direct assertion, but any fair reading can ferret that out.Is Parker2112 wearing adult diapers? I'm just asking.
I mean I have no reason to believe he is, but haven't seen any evidence that contradicts the fact he has a baby fetish. For all I know, he could be wearing a bonnet and sucking on a pacifier right now.
I have no reason to believe this info. That doesnt mean it's not worth airing.
On the other hand, do you automatically dismiss it as completely incredible? Is this really that far beyond the scope of what the Parker2112 is capable of?
I like to get my hands on the info early and see if reality of his baby fetish lines up to support it. I dont see the use in kicking the info out completely from the very beginning.
I would counter by saying dont rule out anything till you can actually rule it out.
And you guys tend to rule out anything that doesnt fit the commonly accepted paradigm, as fed to you by the MSM, a body which has already been shown to be culling facts contradictory to the message govt wants you to hear.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: WikiLeaks 'leaks' are just United States ploy to make me look bad
Astonishingly enough the official state Iranian news source found someone that agrees with Mr. Ahmedinejad, and ran the story, as seen in the OP.
Shocking.
Iran's government has every reason to construct this lie to continue the demonization of the US that has always proved very useful in keeping its citizens in line before.
That is how the Iranian government controls its own people, and has for decades. All the faults, incompetance, and corruption of the Iranian government get lumped into blanket condemnations of the CIA and the evil west. "Its not our fault that you can't find a job, its the CIA".
I find it the height of irony that someone who generally seems to believe that the big bad US government is controlling the American people through propaganda, suddenly decides that another governments very obvious propadanda to control its own people is credible.
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