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  1. #51
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    2 years with pretty much the same cast, for the most part. Nothing to show for it but a well whooped ass in the playoffs. 2 years vs 20 games. Don't be a dumb ass.
    whats your point again?

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    whats your point again?
    He doesnt have one...he's been copying and pasting the same all week.

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    hmm..."Heat Index". "Win 72 games". "Pre-Season Celebration". "This is gonna be easy". "Will win 8 chmapionships".

    So are you saying im the only who thought they were going to be better then 12-8? Come on San Antonio Heat fan...lets get real.
    No, no way am I saying that. ESPN however has commercial interests, obviously, as this phenomenon pours out of their assholes daily...they're a bunch of s. But really, a lot of people thought they were favorites, human nature, sure.

    I still think he's better off in the long run, and after this season has started we all know there's not much to expect out of the Heat this year. They may start to mesh at the end of the season and it'll probably be too late for this year, but the next 2 years are different stories. Especially considering that the top 3 teams (at least in my opinion, LA, Spurs, Celts in no particular order) in the league right now standing in Miami's way are pretty damn old. Soon enough, those 3 teams will be on their way out, and Miami will be on the rise, as long as Bosh or 'Bron doesn't do something re ed and leave for somewhere else again.

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    No, no way am I saying that. ESPN however has commercial interests, obviously, as this phenomenon pours out of their assholes daily...they're a bunch of s. But really, a lot of people thought they were favorites, human nature, sure.

    I still think he's better off in the long run, and after this season has started we all know there's not much to expect out of the Heat this year. They may start to mesh at the end of the season and it'll probably be too late for this year, but the next 2 years are different stories. Especially considering that the top 3 teams (at least in my opinion, LA, Spurs, Celts in no particular order) in the league right now standing in Miami's way are pretty damn old. Soon enough, those 3 teams will be on their way out, and Miami will be on the rise, as long as Bosh or 'Bron doesn't do something re ed and leave for somewhere else again.
    Bosh for varejao/hickson. Wade for Willaims/Jamison.

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    Game 1 vs Boston : 35points 7reb 7ast win

    Game 2 vs Boston : 24 points 7reb 4ast lose

    Game 3 vs Boston : 38points 8reb 7ast win

    Game 4 vs Boston : 22points 9reb 8ast lose

    Game 5 vs Boston : 15points 7reb 7ast lose obviously cuz no one else is capable of picking up the slack

    Game 6 vs Boston : **elimination game** 27points 19reb 10 ast lose

    Series avg : 26.8ppg 9.5rpg 7.2

    Oh yeah sounds like a quitter to me!!! Compare that to what the rest of the team did throughout the series...

    Here: http://www.nba.com/playoffs2010/eastseries5/

    You do the work. I got you this far. FACTS!!!

    FACT: 1st place and a second round exit

    Here is another fact. EVERY championship team has had more than one player who could get it done on any given night. Last year's Cleveland (as good as it was) didn't have that. This years Miami does. FACT!!! It will take time to gel but he IS better off in Miami. Believe that. Don't be a dumbass.

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    Here is another fact. EVERY championship team has had more than one player who could get it done on any given night. Last year's Cleveland (as good as it was) didn't have that. This years Miami does. FACT!!! It will take time to gel but he IS better off in Miami. Believe that. Don't be a dumbass.
    Here's another Fact. Every championship team has role players that can hit big shots and make big plays when the hits the fan. This years Miami does not have that. FACT!! Don't be a dumbass. Unless you think James Jones is the man.

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    Here's another Fact. Every championship team has role players that can hit big shots and make big plays when the hits the fan. This years Miami does not have that. FACT!! Don't be a dumbass. Unless you think James Jones is the man.
    Miller is injured, but him, Jones, and Chalmers can all hit some big threes, in conjunction with everything the Miami big 3 can bring. It doesn't look too horrible on paper, but pretty much everything is going against Miami's way right now.

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    Miller is injured, but him, Jones, and Chalmers can all hit some big threes, in conjunction with everything the Miami big 3 can bring. It doesn't look too horrible on paper, but pretty much everything is going against Miami's way right now.
    I'll give you Miller...but thats about it.

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    Here's another Fact. Every championship team has role players that can hit big shots and make big plays when the hits the fan. This years Miami does not have that. FACT!! Don't be a dumbass. Unless you think James Jones is the man.

    And Cleveland didn't have that either. I never said he would win it all this year. I still think Boston is the team to beat in the East. I said it would take time to gel. But he IS better off in Miami.

    I'm tired of helping you make yourself look stupid.

    I'm going to work. Enjoyed the debate. Will check the thread when I get back. For the record, I hate D-Wade. LeBron is alright with me. the Heat.

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    I'll give you Miller...but thats about it.
    That's interesting because James Jones is a career 40% 3-point shooter. And that stat is not taking into consideration that he is shooting 43.6% this year from beyond the arc.

    D-Wade has proved his clutch-ness in this league for years, he can make the big shot. You're argument is weak.

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    That's interesting because James Jones is a career 40% 3-point shooter. And that stat is not taking into consideration that he is shooting 43.6% this year from beyond the arc.

    D-Wade has proved his clutch-ness in this league for years, he can make the big shot. You're argument is weak.
    Weak? Your arguement is about James Jones...a player that hasnt done anything to prove that he can make a big play.

    As for Wade, we are talking about role players. is that what you think he is now?

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    if you've read any of my numerous posts on this subject, you'd know I agree with your stance

    Sorry I quoted you by mistake.

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    So many potential San Antonio Heat members in this thread. I like what i see.
    Even a spider can see that's funny, and I'm talking about those spiders with 10 eyes on their stomach.

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    pretty much everything is going against Miami's way right now.


    lol using the injury excuse because some role players on miami are injured

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    Weak? Your arguement is about James Jones...a player that hasnt done anything to prove that he can make a big play.

    As for Wade, we are talking about role players. is that what you think he is now?
    My argument is not about James Jones, it's about James Jones, Mike Miller IN ADDITION to Wade, Lebron, and Bosh. Having role players than can spread the floor and hit shots from outside are often necessary to win championship, but most teams don't have Lebron, Wade, and Bosh.

    You set up the topic as if all teams are equal before considering other role players, which isn't true.

    So going back to your post:
    Here's another Fact. Every championship team has role players that can hit big shots and make big plays when the hits the fan. This years Miami does not have that. FACT!! Don't be a dumbass. Unless you think James Jones is the man.
    They don't have too many solid role players compared to other elite teams, but they also have Lebron, Wade, and Bosh. So if you want to consider either Lebron or D-Wade as the man in Miami, then you can also classify either Lebron or Wade and Bosh as role players.

    See what I'm getting at?

    And be real, how many players does your average team have that can make the big shot and big plays? Manu is pretty much the closer in SA, the Spurs are still doing great. And he can hit big shots in the playoffs.
    Are you saying Lebron + Wade aren't enough for providing players that can make the big play?





    Get out of here with that BS. Why don't we put Manu + Kobe on the same team, as well as a couple respectable 3-point shooters like Steve Blake and Kyle Korver, and then state that our team doesn't have the players to make big plays.... more or less, you're arguing a very similar thing.

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    lol using the injury excuse because some role players on miami are injured
    I'm not making excuses nor do I give a if the Heat ever turn it around or not.

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    You expect a team with a completely different makeup to start winning at championship caliber levels right away?
    The Celtics managed to.

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    My argument is not about James Jones, it's about James Jones, Mike Miller IN ADDITION to Wade, Lebron, and Bosh. Having role players than can spread the floor and hit shots from outside are often necessary to win championship, but most teams don't have Lebron, Wade, and Bosh.

    You set up the topic as if all teams are equal before considering other role players, which isn't true.

    So going back to your post:

    They don't have too many solid role players compared to other elite teams, but they also have Lebron, Wade, and Bosh. So if you want to consider either Lebron or D-Wade as the man in Miami, then you can also classify either Lebron or Wade and Bosh as role players.

    See what I'm getting at?

    And be real, how many players does your average team have that can make the big shot and big plays? Manu is pretty much the closer in SA, the Spurs are still doing great. And he can hit big shots in the playoffs.
    Are you saying Lebron + Wade aren't enough for providing players that can make the big play?





    Get out of here with that BS. Why don't we put Manu + Kobe on the same team, as well as a couple respectable 3-point shooters like Steve Blake and Kyle Korver, and then state that our team doesn't have the players to make big plays.... more or less, you're arguing a very similar thing.
    ...your arguement is giving me a headache.

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    I'm not making excuses nor do I give a if the Heat ever turn it around or not.
    classic San Antonio cHeat fan. After 3 pages of relentlessly defending Lebron's "The Decision", overstating how bad Lebron's supporting cast was and how great it is that Lebron finally has a great in supporting cast (), he randomly says "I don't care about the cHeat " when he realizes how funny it looks to see a spurs fan care so much about them.

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    Alvarez, you do know the difference between role players and the main guys right?

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    Alvarez, you do know the difference between role players and the main guys right?
    Yes, yes I do.

    Looks like you didn't read my post.



    I'll follow your logic once again: How many role players do the Celtics have that can knock down the big shot? And we're talking role players, so other than the "main guys" of Pierce, Garnett, Rondo, and Allen.


    Pretty re ed logic if you ask me.

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    classic San Antonio cHeat fan. After 3 pages of relentlessly defending Lebron's "The Decision", overstating how bad Lebron's supporting cast was and how great it is that Lebron finally has a great in supporting cast (), he randomly says "I don't care about the cHeat " when he realizes how funny it looks to see a spurs fan care so much about them.
    Like I've said, their success or unsuccess does not make a difference to me. Does that mean I can't argue and talk about the subject??? I don't mind discussing the Lakers, the Celtics, or the Magic for that matter, as I've posted a lot about these teams in the past. Do I give a if they win it or not? Not really, more so the opposite, I want all of the above to not win it.

    It's a ing NBA forum, sorry I'm not simply saying LOL Spurs LOL Heat or starting 50 threads like the lakaluva does daily. You guys want to only post about meaningless, childish , go ahead. Sounds fun.

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    LOL, Frodo troll I see your team is the GSW. By default, and by your own standards, you should not post in the NBA or Spurs forum period.

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    Like I've said, their success or unsuccess does not make a difference to me. Does that mean I can't argue and talk about the subject???
    sure you can, but it's very transparent you have a vested emotional interest in watching the Heat/Lebron do well and are upset at anyone who criticizes Lebron.

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    Yes, yes I do.

    Looks like you didn't read my post.



    I'll follow your logic once again: How many role players do the Celtics have that can knock down the big shot? And we're talking role players, so other than the "main guys" of Pierce, Garnett, Rondo, and Allen.


    Pretty re ed logic if you ask me.
    Big shots and big plays. I'd say last year they had Rasheed Wallace, Big Baby and Nate Robinson. This year you can include Shaq in that.


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