someone needs to kick this in her .
that ain't !
hot sauce? hahaha try volcano soap, that's what my mother used to make me hold in my mouth if i cussed. a cold shower? wtf!? i used to get keys to the head and whatever else my mother had in her hand if she thought i was being a bad kid. living with a single mother is hard but you learn quick not to get caught.
Hot sause? Volcano soap?
White people
She's enjoying humiliating him and causing him pain. He's crying in pain and she's screaming at him. It's not up there with dipping your kid in boiling water, but it turns my stomach.
Edited to add an observation after I wrote the above impulsively: Punishment has to make sense and be fair. She's telling her kid lying is bad while making him hold hot sauce in his mouth. At some point the kid is going to understand that she thinks it's bad for him to lie but doesn't think it's bad for her to torture him.
Last edited by Summers; 12-03-2010 at 10:32 PM.
Just right. We should keep the pussification of parents in a minimum.
The important part there is the mother explains why he is being punished.
I'd rather see a parent give a little boy a cold shower than hit him with a closed fist on the head.
The most amazing part of the video is that someone actually ed that lady.
It's not pussification to not want to see your children humiliated and tortured. If you TEACH--not threaten--your children by example, they learn to make good decisions. Discipline is a long-term goal and if your 7-year-old can't sit still in a classroom all day, then he can't, but cold showers probably isn't going to solve the problem. And when he's lying because he's terrified of the cold shower and his punishment for lying is hot sauce, you're teaching him he can't trust you.
There's a difference between logical consequences and punishment. Punishment has no justification. Logical consequences have a reason. Parents and kids can follow why they happen. It's obvious that isn't happening here.
While this isn't up there with hitting a child or other more dangerous forms of abuse it can lead to more abusive behavior. It's these types of behaviors that get agencies involved initially. Then, the case gets closed. Later down the road something more serious happens and we're left saying, "But why didn't the kid get taken away to start with?"
The le says it's her adopted son. What gets me the most is, if he's adopted the family had to have been studied somewhat. What was their discipline policy with the organization they were with previously? Were there any red flags?
Dammit I didn't read.
It turned my stomach a great deal. I feel sort of sick. Summers nailed why.
Certainly hot sauce - which won't permanently damage him - and cold showers are better than beating him. But they are also not necessarily reasonable to me. What is the connection between hot sauce and cold showers to poor behavior? I don't understand that. I am not sure a child would understand that. Losing privileges? Ok. That's clear. A standard punishment - which I guess this is supposed to be - I sort of get (my friend made her children stand in the corner for acting up at school).
But really, what disturbed me wasn't the punishment, it was the way she was shouting at him and trying to humiliate him.
Yes, ashbeeigh also hit on something. The behaviors themselves weren't necessarily abusive. The words weren't necessarily abusive. But the at ude certainly was. The whole thing felt abusive, even if taken piece by piece it wasn't.
But how can you instill the teachings on a 7 yr old who has the attention span of a lightning bolt?
At that age, you have to teach with a little harshness (some sort of punishment). I think they are too young to realize the trust issue because it is still a little too complicated for their age.
They respond to fear rather quickly though then when they get older, that's probably the time to stop those ridiculous punishments and start dialogs.
not her kid, doesnt give her the right to do what she wants
today there is alot of laws that protect children, like no spanking at home/school or in public...
so what happen to the mormon?
Ah no. Tie that es hair to a rope and the other to a ing truck and the drag her till her scalp falls off. has some mental problems and kid will have some too. Damn.
It's not just when your punishing a child. Having children is 24/7. 25/8 when you have children who have issues like ADHD. When kids have issues like that you need to approach kids differently. Use a soothing tones, with sympathy and direct. Asking children if they understand why they're going to time out or why something is being taken away is going to help in the long run. It may take 3-5 times with kids who have shorter attention spans. And it is frustrating.
And trust begins at birth. Children develop trust with parents or whoever becomes their caregiver when they are born. When children trust their parents they'll listen better. If a child doesn't trust a parent they won't listen. Trust that the parent will come back when they say they will, follow through with the consequence, listen to them, etc. Kids who don't trust respond with fear because they developed mistrust in an early age. It's basic childhood development theory.
You'll probably be one of those parents who will let their kids run amok on restaurants and get angry at people who try to reprimand them.
Don't be so sure that hot sauce won't damage him.
It's one of the things that you are told is a huge no-no when you are adopting/fostering because there have been several cases of kids dying or getting permanently damaged from it, if it's accidentally inhaled it into their lungs.
You don't have to be told this is not acceptable to know this is ing sick! Some people should never have kids! What a sick ing lady! I hope she rots in .
is a single mom probably. women are much easier to lose control of temper and can get emotional quite often, hence they shouldn't be in charge of something even something as little as a tiny house, at least that's true for most of them. the family is pretty much malformed imo, due mainly to the absence of a husband. in most wife-beating cases the wife only gets beat by husband because she beat the kids earlier.
woman, dog and walnut tree, the more you beat them the better they be.
Kid is going to grow up and go to jail in and out thanks to that crazy .
Cold showers ... I remember them. They were pretty typical for me growing up. Only that they were for after my punishment ... to help reduce the swelling and stop the bleeding. I realize my experiences growing up were pretty ed up at times, and surely not the norm, but using that as my only real reference point, it's hard for me to classify the posted video as 'abuse'.
I would hope that I'd never duplicate my fathers version of discipline and punishment when I do have children. And I'm sure that when I do have kids of my own, my take on the proper way of punishing a child will change. But in general I think we as a society are becoming far too soft with our children. Sitting down and having a leave it to beaver type of talk isn't going to work. (Obviously communication and 'real' talks are an important part of parenting, I just don't think they're very valuable lesson as a punishment.) Time-outs and pleading with children to act right is not what I believe in. I don't accept that spankings are bad. Maybe I'm a heartless bas . But I think too many people are trying to be friends with their kids instead of being their parent.
I don't like the idea of the hot sauce. It seems a bit cruel to me. But I still don't feel that it's a terrible offense at the same time. Kori though did bring up an interesting point about possible health hazards ... never heard that before.
I don't necessarily disagree with you. Trying to be friends doesn't work, and I don't think most kids have a developed enough sense of right and wrong and of logical thinking for appeals to good behavior to work. And I'm not opposed to spanking, personally, if it's done in a way that removes the potential for abusive situations (not in anger, not using implements, only to the butt).
But I don't think that it's worth dismissing other things out of hand. I know kids who are spanked who were little hooligans. Spanking was no real deterrent for them. Not pleasant, certainly, but a minor blip on their radar. Incidentally, they tended to be the kids whose parents spanked for any infraction, regardless of how big or small it was.
And the reverse of that, I know kids whose parents never or only rarely spanked them and used other means of punishment - and rewards, worth noting - and they were the most well-behaved and polite children I know. At 4, at 8 and still so today at 12.
Punishments have to fit the action/infraction and be tailored to the child and be logical.
And Kori - wow, excellent point. I never thought about the potential damage for aspirating hot sauce (it's not something that ever happened in my family, but I've never thought of it as a particularly bad idea).
Yeah, similar take here.
Except, I am against "disciplining" a child with the method this heartless bas ly lady used. If you are gonna discipline your child, get a paddle or, , use your hand, and spank the out of your child at least once or twice. But make the spanking count.
If your child misbehaves after that then take away a prized position of theirs (toys, video game consoles) and create a household environment that is built of discipling and such.
btw, I wanna punch the out of this lady. Stupid idiot.
Thank God for the sane people here who knows how to raise their children properly.
Im tired of seeing punks who act like the world exists for them and their enabler parents.
The woman is pretty re ed. The kid is obviously afraid of the mom; kids don't do long-term reasoning very well. As others said, why not explain why what the kid did was wrong, then put him in a corner or something?
Berating the child in the shower seemed kinda sadistic.
If I recall correctly Japanese troops would strip our soldiers down back in WWII before cutting their heads off in a final act of degradation and humiliation..same with the Nazi's as well. By age 7 I think the child should be in charge of bathing himself and the whole degrading him while in the shower thing seemed pretty sick, as if degrading the child the entire time wasn't bad enough.
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