5.

[Cry Havoc]

http://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/9411...o-5/index.html

GT5 85% with comments of irregular graphics and bad interface. This is quite bad since since they even sold a demo at full price

That's like saying Bioshock is a bad game because the menu's are slow to navigate through. You don't buy a racing game for the interface. You buy it to drive cars really fast.

The shadowing problem is an ongoing fix that will be patched soon. It's disappointing, but hardly game-breaking, as you suggest.

Forza 2 with a 89%, and Forza 3 92%, these 2 games were able to be made and sold before GT5 alone could be.

And they aren't nearly as expansive or as comprehensive as GT5.

Pretty sad for a game being designed since the dinosaurs roamed the Earth.

GT5 is also being held to a much higher standard than any driving game ever released. Every single flaw is being scrutinized. If "random company X" had released a game like this from nowhere it would be getting 9.5s or 10s. Even the reviewers are saying that GT5 is on a scoring system all it's own, because it's going places that no other racing games have before.

The AI has not progressed much from when I played GT in 1998. It was okay back then - AI driving on rails is harder to overlook now. Someone at GTPlanet said it best, "the AI drives as if you don't exist". They don't respond to your presence, and no problem ramming into you endlessly if you cross their driving lines.

From what I've seen, as you progress deeper into the game the AI frees up a bit and becomes more responsive. But this is a valid critique of the game.

The fact that after 6 years there is no visual and mechanical damage out of the box is disconcerting.

Easier said than done for 1000+ cars.

That being said, the pure driving of the game is excellent, as is always the case with GT. But I'm simply talking about the aspect of you, your car, and the road.

Yep.

I still need a lot more playing time with this, but it's sits at an 8/10 for me. GT is the better driving sim; Forza 3 is the better game.

This might be partially true, but GT5 is still a better driving experience, and that's what really determines the quality of a racing game, IMO. The amount of detail you can feel in the wheel is absolutely astonishing. And it looks like Polyphony is dedicated to continually improving GT5. If this remains the case, the ceiling of this game is really, really high. We'll just have to see.

[resistanze]

^^ Yup, I'm willing to be patient as PD seems dedicated to continually this game with patches. I don't really even like comparing GT with Forza, because the different in driving simulation to very clear. However, I do have to compare it to previous iterations of GT, and with the respect I feel they've failed to progress in many ways (and regressed in a few). But GT games are a long-term experience, so I'm still optimistic.

[phyzik]

I want one.

[phyzik]

Broke down and went and picked up a G25 racing wheel and pedals from Best Buy.... Will see what all the fuss is about when I get home.

[robino2001]

Broke down and went and picked up a G25 racing wheel and pedals from Best Buy.... Will see what all the fuss is about when I get home.

I can definitely see where the wheels would help because I definitely cannot drive with too much precision on a controller... I just don't know where/how I'd set it up and I can't justify the cost.

[4>0rings]

That's like saying Bioshock is a bad game because the menu's are slow to navigate through. You don't buy a racing game for the interface. You buy it to drive cars really fast.

The shadowing problem is an ongoing fix that will be patched soon. It's disappointing, but hardly game-breaking, as you suggest.

No, YOU don't buy a racing game for the interface, apparently it's enough of a problem to hinder a game as this is a common complaint for the rest of the community.

I guess the shadowing problem is acceptable to you for a game that has been in the design stages quite a few years. They even had a beta which was sold to the public in the form of a full price demo to work with and they still failed.

It's a flop due to the expectations people had for this game and it doesn't deliver on those. I also never said game breaking, because it's not game breaking but again the expectations were set high by the community and Sony itself and they failed to deliver.

[phyzik]

So, whats everyones best strategy for making money?

So far, I've just been running b-spec mode doing the high speed ring on the Turbo challenge in expert mode.

I read that another, possibly quicker way, is to buy a Lotus 111R, buy the racing kit from the auto place, supe it up and run the British Lightweight race over and over in B-spec. Nets 22,200 credits in about 6:30 minutes each race.

That is also a really fast way to level up a B-Spec driver BTW.

Any other ideas?

[Chomag]

No, YOU don't buy a racing game for the interface, apparently it's enough of a problem to hinder a game as this is a common complaint for the rest of the community.

I guess the shadowing problem is acceptable to you for a game that has been in the design stages quite a few years. They even had a beta which was sold to the public in the form of a full price demo to work with and they still failed.

It's a flop due to the expectations people had for this game and it doesn't deliver on those. I also never said game breaking, because it's not game breaking but again the expectations were set high by the community and Sony itself and they failed to deliver.

I agree with you, Its a decent game but no where near what the developers were hyping it up to be. It was a first day buy for me but after watching someone stream it there were some things that I noticed that irked me. So I decided to hold off and rent it to see for myself. I was very disappointed and have now put this game on the back of my to-buy list.

I probably wont be buying it untill next year sometime, maybe when it's on sale or something.

[resistanze]

So, whats everyones best strategy for making money?

So far, I've just been running b-spec mode doing the high speed ring on the Turbo challenge in expert mode.

I read that another, possibly quicker way, is to buy a Lotus 111R, buy the racing kit from the auto place, supe it up and run the British Lightweight race over and over in B-spec. Nets 22,200 credits in about 6:30 minutes each race.

That is also a really fast way to level up a B-Spec driver BTW.

Any other ideas?

The challenges give a lot of money as you go up. I won 70K for an intermediate go kart race. I was doing the advanced go-kart race which would've netted me 100K+ for a 4 minute race, but I inexplicably spun out in the last turn.

I did the GT world championship with a modded Audi R8 4.2, and won the Bugatti (~900 bhp). Light mods made the Bugatti over 1000 bhp - added some slick tries and won the tuned championship (180K total), although it's kind of long.

You're already able to race in expert B-spec races? What level are you at?

[phyzik]

The challenges give a lot of money as you go up. I won 70K for an intermediate go kart race. I was doing the advanced go-kart race which would've netted me 100K+ for a 4 minute race, but I inexplicably spun out in the last turn.

I did the GT world championship with a modded Audi R8 4.2, and won the Bugatti (~900 bhp). Light mods made the Bugatti over 1000 bhp - added some slick tries and won the tuned championship (180K total), although it's kind of long.

You're already able to race in expert B-spec races? What level are you at?

I can do some of the extreme events in B-spec, my B-spec level is 22.

I have my driver racing while Im watching TV, switch back to it every 10 minutes or so to start another race, then flip back over to TV.

[robino2001]

That was the big thing that jumped out at me... all of the money you could get by doing the challenge stuff. I did the beginner and middle (Pro?) for the cart and nascar... but that in volkswagen race on the top gear track KILLED me. I never finished it after ~20-30 minutes worth of trying. Got frustrated and Lebron in Cleveland was starting so I quit.

I played with the B-spec stuff for about an hour or so... wasn't a big fan yet. Maybe I just didn't "get" it.

[resistanze]

Yeah I'm not feeling B-Spec either. Like in GT4, B-Spec should've been an alternative to A-spec (with an ability to speed up races),.

[phyzik]

Yeah I'm not feeling B-Spec either. Like in GT4, B-Spec should've been an alternative to A-spec (with an ability to speed up races),.

Yeah, I feel the same.... Im just using it as a cash cow when Im not actually playing.

The problem I have with it, even with 2 drivers, one lvl 18 and a newer one lvl 19, you have to give them a "super car" vs the compe ion in order for them to compete. They stick to the driving line like glue and dont know how to ing pass when you tell them to. It has to be a straight-away and you have to have a much more powerfull car for them to actually pass.... They dont know how to brake late into corners or cut off drivers. The most infuriating thing is when they start to cut off another AI, they let off the gas and let the driver pass them up again.

Once you get your B-spec level high enough to go to extreme events, its almost impossible to win unless you have a REALLY high level driver (like close to 30) because the cars are so powerfull at that point and your driver is a dumbass.

Hopefully they patch it.

Maybe I will try my next driver with a more "hot" at ude, maybe they wont be a about roughing it up in the corners.

[resistanze]

Yeah, I feel the same.... Im just using it as a cash cow when Im not actually playing.

The problem I have with it, even with 2 drivers, one lvl 18 and a newer one lvl 19, you have to give them a "super car" vs the compe ion in order for them to compete. They stick to the driving line like glue and dont know how to ing pass when you tell them to. It has to be a straight-away and you have to have a much more powerfull car for them to actually pass.... They dont know how to brake late into corners or cut off drivers. The most infuriating thing is when they start to cut off another AI, they let off the gas and let the driver pass them up again.

Once you get your B-spec level high enough to go to extreme events, its almost impossible to win unless you have a REALLY high level driver (like close to 30) because the cars are so powerfull at that point and your driver is a dumbass.

Hopefully they patch it.

Maybe I will try my next driver with a more "hot" at ude, maybe they wont be a about roughing it up in the corners.

That's the main reason I'm still a level 3 B-spec - your driver is somehow dumber than even the opposition AI. All the races I've won was with an overpowered car, because your drive lacks the ability to drive even as well as the opposition. I even lost a race on the final turn lap/final turn in the FF challenge, because my driving was strolling in his rally car. Outrageous.

I won that advanced GO-Kart challenge, 114K credits. But Jesus, driving those carts are infuriating. If the AI rams you from any side, you spin out. If you ram the AI, YOU still spin out

[phyzik]

That's the main reason I'm still a level 3 B-spec - your driver is somehow dumber than even the opposition AI. All the races I've won was with an overpowered car, because your drive lacks the ability to drive even as well as the opposition. I even lost a race on the final turn lap/final turn in the FF challenge, because my driving was strolling in his rally car. Outrageous.

I won that advanced GO-Kart challenge, 114K credits. But Jesus, driving those carts are infuriating. If the AI rams you from any side, you spin out. If you ram the AI, YOU still spin out

I have had no problem withe the Kart special events, beat them all. The problem I have with them is that you can only do them one time to win cash.

[resistanze]

I've been hearing the American Series (Extreme) 5 laps of the oval gives 98K for less than 5 mins of work.

[phyzik]

I've been hearing the American Series (Extreme) 5 laps of the oval gives 98K for less than 5 mins of work.

A-Spec

Extreme event: "Like the Wind"

Car: Pagani Zonda R '09 - fully upgraded with soft racing tires

Set Gearing top speed to about 240

Daytona track - 5 laps

dont let off the gas in the corners, the car will stick, ignore the driving line if you have it on.

70k in about 3 minutes 40 seconds

[phyzik]

A-Spec

Extreme event: "Like the Wind"

Car: Pagani Zonda R '09 - fully upgraded with soft racing tires

Set Gearing top speed to about 240

Daytona track - 5 laps

dont let off the gas in the corners, the car will stick, ignore the driving line if you have it on.

70k in about 3 minutes 40 seconds

Won both races in this event and got the MINOLTA Toyota 88C-V Race Car.... Easy to win races with this one, in both A-Spec and B-spec.

[resistanze]

Awesome. I'm at level 19 so I got some work to do before that race. I'm gonna run that race a few times so I can buy some Ferraris/Lambos.

[resistanze]

Major update for GT5...608 MB

Update Notice (1.05)

A new update has been released for Gran Turismo 5.
The main contents of the update are as follows:

Seasonal Events
[Seasonal Events] have been added to the upper left side of the [GT Mode] - [GT Life] screen. From here you can participate in official online events from the Polyphony Digital team. In these events, all participants under the same regulations, and if you complete the event you will win rewards and experience. In Time Trials and Drift Trials, compete on the leader boards with players around the world.

Online Dealership
An [Online Dealership] has been added to the left center of the screen. In here you will find popular and rare used cars. You might just come across that one car you've always been looking for, that you haven't been able to find in the used car dealership.

Online Race Rewards and Experience
When you complete a race in the open lobby or my lounge, you will now gain rewards and experience points. Therefore if you are focused more on playing online, you'll still be able to gain rewards and levels that you need to progress in GT Life.

Driving Distance and Number of wins in Online Races
The driving distance and number of wins you achieve when you complete a race in Open lobby or My lounge will now affect your stats in Profile and the Garage. Here again the results from your online play will  ulate within GT Life

Improved Rewards
The rewards for winning races in Both A-Spec and B-Spec in GT mode- GT Life have been increased for a limited time only. This applies until the end of January 2011. This is a great chance for those who were previously have difficulties getting ahead in the game, due to lack of funds for tuning and purchasing required cars.

Race Information Display
Is now available in the Start-Quick Options. You can also see this in Race Display in Options.

Save Data Backup
You can now copy and restore your save data. For details please refer to the in-game Manual

Personal BGM (menu)
From [options]-[hardware]-[Audio], it is now possible to set the Personal BGM (menu). This can also be accessed from the Music Library within GT Mode.

Car Name Change
The official name of the "Red Bull X1" has been changed to "Red Bull X2010"

Integration within the website
THe main features within GT Mode - Community can now be accessed through the "Gran-Turismo.com Official Website.

Important Note
We have made improvements to the Log within GT Mode - Community section,
in order to make its operation more stable. Please note that the information that was here before the update has been reset.

Some contents of the update will not be applied unless you sign into the Playstation Network when you play the game.

Thank God, my playing time was getting less and less, at least they're trying to correct the shortcomings with this game. Hopefully more updates will continue.

[robino2001]

I've stopped playing to play Donkey Kong Country on Wii instead when I have free time... more enjoyable to me right now. I'm sure I'll go back eventually... now sounds like a good time to try it again for a while.