Also, endurance improvement takes time, is not something you get in 20 games.
I'm talking about Manu's quotes. I'd like to see them.
I said they look re ed. Not fatigued.Why do others look fatigued?
Not a big sample size, but Manu's shooting percentages with zero days rest could be telling. It will be interesting to see if the trend continues.
I don't know if Manu asked Pop to play 35 mins per game, I know that he said that he wants to play around that mark many times.
That's a matter of perception. Many times when players make stupid plays is 'cause they're tired.I said they look re ed. Not fatigued.
Let's wait to see how the season goes.Not a big sample size, but Manu's shooting percentages with zero days rest could be telling. It will be interesting to see if the trend continues.
How much time?
Is there a chart I can look at from an NBA trainer's website? You make it sound pretty cut and dry.
Depends on the person, endurance is the aspect of an athlete that has more room for improvement, but it takes time.
If you run half an hour every day, the day you decide to run an hour you will feel tired, but if you keep running an hour everyday there will come a moment where running that hour will feel like it used to feel running half an hour.
Why has no one ever told Manu this in this past 12 years?
Why haven't any of his pro teams put him on such a simple path to certain endurance?
Manu's minutes have never been limited 'till he got to the Spurs.
How many minutes did he average in how many games on his previous teams?
I only see a career high of 38 minutes for Euroleague so far.
Really doesn't seem that high to me.
I don't know, the same as other star players, all I remember is that Manu's stamina was never a point of discussion 'till he got to the NBA.
Did he ever play and 82 game season + playoffs before he joined the NBA?
Please elaborate. Neal, a rookie, is a regular in the rotation. Pop was giving Anderson, another rookie, steady minutes before his injury. You can argue about Splitter getting minutes, to which I agree, but were only a month into the season, so theres still plenty of time for Splitter to become a regular in the rotation. Which older vets are you referring to? The big 3? Dyess? Right now, the only critizism I have of Pop, is giving too many minutes to Bonner. If Bonner isn't hitting his 3's, he needs to benched. My only concern is for the big 3's health. So I really don't see the need to over-analyze any deficiencies for a Spurs team thats 16-3.
No, but he did used to play all year long counting club and NT play.
Thanks.
You're welcome.
Sure did. BTW, how many times has he been injured during his stints of year round play?
Odds are that the Spurs have their best days ahead of them. Reasons? New guys will continue to learn the system and get more comfortable with it (Neal, Splitter, etc). Anderson will return and give us another role player. Udoka will be gone.
Duncan wore out because of the number of years on his legs being the focal point of both the offense and defense. He also has chronic knee (and maybe foot) issues which at this point in his career will never go away. The lack of a consistent secondary interior presence to shoulder the burden no doubt contributed, but at least in his early career Duncan demonstrated that he could sustain substantial minutes.
Manu wore out because he ALWAYS wears out when you give him too many minutes. That's a staple of EVERY SINGLE YEAR he's played in the NBA, even when the Spurs had Bowen to buffer his minutes.
ya think maybe its because regardless of how many minutes he played, when he played he had little to no help? please, put the CoD the CoT and the CoM aside and be honest.I don't belong to any Church. My allegiance is to the Spurs. I just report reality.
I don't care what he asked to do. The point of the discussion was whether he can do it and remain productive. He can't.
Based on what??He can play 35 mins, we need him to play that much.
Uhhhh, maybe because EVERY SINGLE YEAR OF HIS CAREER he's played more MPG in the playoffs? In fact, last year he DID play 35 MPG (playoff career high).How do you expect him to suddenly play 35 minutes per game during the playoffs if you got him used to play 28/30 all season long?
Again I don't understand this obsession with him playing 35 minutes per game. He needs to play the number of minutes which will help the team and keep him effective.
If you think resting Manu is just an option and not a necessity, then you need to pay closer attention to his career.IMHO, the best way to rest Manu (if you want to) is to give him a game off every now and then, but when he plays you need to play him around 35 minutes per game so that he gets used to play that kind of minutes, that's how you improve endurance.
it is proven in the playoffs if manu gets 3 days off between games he plays MUCH BETTER
Basically it is the same team as last year. Splitter is a non factor and Anderson is injured. Those were the top two player acquisistions from last year. The early fast start and record is fools gold. The spurs will fall back as the schedule gets tougher and players start to wear down as the season goes on. There just wasn't enough of a roster change from last years team to believe this team has enough talent to take it all the way to a le.
gasol already is gased for the lakers
that gives me hope
gasol is a big reason lakers won it all last year
also ron and phil are not getting along
ron can get that locker room against each other
Not really.
Jackson probably thinks that scolding him a bit is exactly what he needs. Like some attention s we know..
ok, but we're not talking about manu or duncan's early career. In the past two years Duncan's minutes have declined, and his performance has waned as the season progresses- his role IMO was much more of a factor than his mileage. and in no moment did I imply manu's job now is as taxing as duncan's job (especially when he was the best player in the league in his early career). we are talking about now.
simple question:
would you rather play manu a) 28mpg as the focal point of the offense, or b) 33mpg as a cog with TP, TD, and RJ. which is better for his stamina/health? IMO, the correct answer is B, but for that to work he has to be a cog and not the focal point. If anything, I am the one asking for "less" manu, less protagonism from him. to me that saves his body more than asking him to play 25minutes as the franchise player.
I understand the question, but I disagree that those are the only options. Also, I think the past couple of games demonstrate that 33 MPG is 33 MPG and too many to ask him to sustain.
Your option (a) is what traditionally happens when he's brought off the bench. Although moving him to the bench is the simplest way to limit his minutes, the Spurs shouldn't have to do that because they have more offensive options with Neal, a rejuvenated RJ, and Hill awakening from slumber.
I think they can keep Manu in the starting lineup AND keep his minutes under 30. It will be even easier when Anderson comes back, of course, but they really need to start doing it now.
are you that DUMP ChumpDUMPer
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