SRV.........best guitartist ever

[cornbread]

Sorry, can't say I know or have ever heard of Ruben V.

Ruben V is a San Antonio guy who's been doing his thing since the mid-90's or so. Back then he was very "Texas blues" but his style and songwriting evolves constantly. That's the reason why 15 years later you still see a lot of the same faces along with new ones at his shows.

As guitar player and lover, you should make it a point to see one of his gigs next you're in SA. His live shows are everything you would want from a top-notch blues picker. And he's a phenomenal singer!

Check out his Web site. He's got some free MP3 for download.
http://www.rubenv.com/bio.html

[silverblk mystix]

Ruben V is a San Antonio guy who's been doing his thing since the mid-90's or so. Back then he was very "Texas blues" but his style and songwriting evolves constantly. That's the reason why 15 years later you still see a lot of the same faces along with new ones at his shows.

As guitar player and lover, you should make it a point to see one of his gigs next you're in SA. His live shows are everything you would want from a top-notch blues picker. And he's a phenomenal singer!

Check out his Web site. He's got some free MP3 for download.
http://www.rubenv.com/bio.html

Thanks. I checked out a couple of tunes. Not bad at all.

[silverblk mystix]

So really what your saying is the telephone and typewriter where the best inventions to come around leaving no room for the iPhone later?

Frank Marino took Jimmy and turned a beeper into a cell phone.



Its been nice having this chat fellas but at the end of the day I see no solo here that is better than the solo from Rock bottom. sorry that's life in the Guitar world I guess.

Mouse & others....

I just re-listened to this whole thread....because I had time today...

some thoughts;

Some really great stuff...that Shawn Lane? guy...he is a monster...probably faster than most...but maybe too much speed -too many runs-instead of just feeling-he depends on speed too much...but boy what a monster guitar player..

A lot of great stuff...and we didn't even post any Knopfler, Gilmore, among others...

but sorry,
Rock Bottom has been dethroned....

after re-listening..I even had to change my all time fave after this....voodoo chile is not the best...

it is


Machine Gun...(and I had heard this many,many times...but I really,really listened to it all-and wow...)

Machine Gun is 10 times the solo than rock bottom is....Schenker & Co. actually had me a bit bored when I re-listened....


Sorry, Mouse....you need to reconsider with an open mind...

Listen to Machine Gun....listen to Jimi wailing with feeling, soul, power, mastery, fluidity, grace, otherworldliness. Listen to the meaning of the song about soldiers being torn to pieces...listen as the solo goes from a fiery blues runs to incendiary rocket noises!!!!, bombs bursting!!!!... rocket launchers!!!!...

from a goddammnn guitar....


Champion: Machine Gun

Be honest mouse and change your sig!

[leemajors]

Some really great stuff...that Shawn Lane? guy...he is a monster...probably faster than most...but maybe too much speed -too many runs-instead of just feeling-he depends on speed too much...but boy what a monster guitar player..

Later in his life he got deep into Indian and Middle Eastern music, mainly due to his friendship with Jonas borg, who is one of the best bassists out there:

[mojorizen7]

Machine Gun...(and I had heard this many,many times...but I really,really listened to it all-and wow...)

Machine Gun is 10 times the solo than rock bottom is....Schenker & Co. actually had me a bit bored when I re-listened....


Sorry, Mouse....you need to reconsider with an open mind...

Listen to Machine Gun....listen to Jimi wailing with feeling, soul, power, mastery, fluidity, grace, otherworldliness. Listen to the meaning of the song about soldiers being torn to pieces...listen as the solo goes from a fiery blues runs to incendiary rocket noises!!!!, bombs bursting!!!!... rocket launchers!!!!...

from a goddammnn guitar....


Champion: Machine Gun
Be honest mouse and change your sig!

Just sic. Like i mentioned in my post....i CANNOT IMAGINE what it would have been like to witness a performance like that....live and in person....
in 19 ing70.

My favorite moment is the first note of the lead that just hangs there....forever, then just when you think he's going to let you off the hook....same note again.....and it hangs forever....again.

Yeah,(and like u mentioned)he breaks out with what sounds to me like air-raid sirens in the middle section.
Later as it slows down and the eerie backing vocals from Buddy Miles start, Jimi tries to match the vocal tone with the feedback..... ing wild.

Sorry man,i get all geeked up when trying to describe that performance.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

they have this guitarist named stevie ray

[silverblk mystix]

they have this guitarist named stevie ray

yeah...SRV was great...but he tried to emulate Jimi...that is no secret...

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Don't challenge my knowledge of blues guitar players, sir.

I really don't recall where I challenge you at anything, but if I did it definitely was a false alarm.

I thought King was an appropriate reference due to the similarities in playing style and tone.

Well, yeah. The way you stated it, I assumed you were saying that SRV wasn't ever so slightly influenced by any other guitar player.

Stevie Ray would have been the first to admit the influence.

Yes, I know. That's the reason for that famous session.

Don't you Pfffffffff me . . .

I think you put one too many "f"s......

SRV played cleaner than Jimi.

I'm very aware of that.

I wouldn't say better.

Well, see, that's why my initial post was

Depends.

sure it depends on whatever criteria you're putting them against. each one can "beat" the other one on certain levels of playing.

It's a matter of taste, I suppose, but

Yes, it is a matter of taste.

but Jimi was an innovator.

That's something I can't base my opinion on simply because of birthdate. Some musicians just get better at a different rate than other musicians.

His style transcended any perceived lack of technical skill because he developed his own technique that no one has ever really exceeded.

I don't know. Like I said, it depends.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Out of everyone listed in here, I'd say this dude is the best. Almost every guitar buddy I have says this dude is one of the best that's ever lived. No, I didn't base my opinion strictly by what my guitar buddies think.

[The Reckoning]

yeah right shawn lane reminds me of mookie when he picks up my 50 dollar accoustic and tries to play it as fast as he can although he doesnt know a single chord.

[mojorizen7]

I've never been a big fan of the speed guys as much.
The only guitarist i really ever dug into that could shred with speed was Eric Johnson.....probably because of his melodic phrasing and tone. He also was very versatile,and because of that he sort of dissappeared from the mainstream quite awhile ago.

For me it's always been pretty much these 4 guys:
Hendrix
Gilmour
E. Johnson
The Edge

and Alex Lifeson.

[The Reckoning]

and we all know michael j fox is the greatest

[Viva Las Espuelas]

and we all know michael j fox is the greatest

wurd

[ohmwrecker]

Out of everyone listed in here, I'd say this dude is the best. Almost every guitar buddy I have says this dude is one of the best that's ever lived. No, I didn't base my opinion strictly by what my guitar buddies think.

He is obviously very talented and labeling a guy as "the best" is very subjective, but personally, I don't dig guys that play billions of notes as fast as they can. It's music, not a race. I much prefer guys who play with soul and style over speedy, technical wizards. It's not really about the number of notes and how fast you can play them, but the notes you don't play and the tension and dynamics of the space between the notes.

[silverblk mystix]

He is obviously very talented and labeling a guy as "the best" is very subjective, but personally, I don't dig guys that play billions of notes as fast as they can. It's music, not a race. I much prefer guys who play with soul and style over speedy, technical wizards. It's not really about the number of notes and how fast you can play them, but the notes you don't play and the tension and dynamics of the space between the notes.

Well said.

I am NOT taking anything away from Shawn Lane and players that play that style...but if I can add something to the above statement...it is;

It actually takes a lot of restraint and maturity to...S-L-O-W- D-O-W-N...


I know it takes years of woodshedding and discipline to achieve that speed and mastery...but when you start getting mature and comfortable in your own skin...you don't feel the need to make every run..every triplet...every scale backwards and forwards...

You begin to let the notes...breathe...the space in between is sometimes more powerful than filling up every possible space...

Just listen to a David Gilmore and see how mature his playing is...every note...is meaningful and toneful and he rarely shows off or plays a bunch of runs in a row just to fill up space.

Jimi encompassed almost everything that makes great guitar playing...and if you switch the topic to RHYTHM playing...oh my god...just try to tell me that Jimi was NOT a monster and master rhythm player also.

[mojorizen7]

He is obviously very talented and labeling a guy as "the best" is very subjective, but personally, I don't dig guys that play billions of notes as fast as they can. It's music, not a race. I much prefer guys who play with soul and style over speedy, technical wizards. It's not really about the number of notes and how fast you can play them, but the notes you don't play and the tension and dynamics of the space between the notes.

+1
Agree wholeheartedly.
OT: The same can be said of films too IMO.....in terms of scoring an original soundtrack etc...and where to place it within the framework of the film itself.
"The Dark Knight" is an example of this. Zero tension and very little impact because the music never stops.

[red strike 07]

yo guys, good thread..I'll let yall finish but Matt Bellamy of Muse is the best guitarist right now out there period

[mouse]

Mouse

sorry,
Rock Bottom has been dethroned....
Machine Gun...(and I had heard this many,many times...but I really,really listened to it all-and wow...)

Machine Gun is 10 times the solo than rock bottom is.....
Sorry, Mouse....you need to reconsider with an open mind...

Listen to Machine Gun....listen to Jimi wailing ...listen as the solo goes from a fiery blues runs to incendiary rocket noises!!!!, bombs bursting!!!!... rocket launchers!!!!...

ok brah put down the redbull and remember this is about talent not sound effects.

from a goddammnn guitar....!

Pssssst! it's called a foot pedal, those are sound effects and Jimmy had many. with the right foot pedals I can have the space shuttle fly out my ass if I want.

Rock bottom had none. I used to not only play guitar but have seen over 100 rock bands from 1977 to 1989 so when I say rock bottom is the most unique and hard to play solo ever you can take that to the bank esse.


go to the 5:50 mark on the video.

[silverblk mystix]

ok brah put down the redbull and remember this is about talent not sound effects.




Pssssst! it's called a foot pedal, those are sound effects and Jimmy had many. with the right foot pedals I can have the space shuttle fly out my ass if I want.

Rock bottom had none. I used to not only play guitar but have seen over 100 rock bands from 1977 to 1989 so when I say rock bottom is the most unique and hard to play solo ever you can take that to the bank esse.


go to the 5:50 mark on the video.

Remember, Jimi was doing this in the 60's...there were not too many effects compared to the computerized stuff we have today...

I guess you really think that Shenker was in the same league as Jimi...

Can't agree, sorry...

I did see that UFO video and the solo is not that hard to play...it is an average performance too...

Well anyway, for YOU...it is still the best solo...but I don't share your enthusiasm for that solo...

[mouse]

Pssssst! red strike 07 just because your #1 on a magazine or book cover doesn't mean its so ......

Sincerly: Enron CEO Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling

[mouse]

Remember, Jimi was doing this in the 60's...there were not too many effects

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5004274_hi...ts-pedals.html

Guitar effects began to be manufactured in the 1960s and went on to define a generation of music.



Read more: History of Guitar Effects Pedals | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_5004274_hi...#ixzz17D8rNpiL

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[mouse]

1969 stage hand setting up for Jimi Hendrix show.

[mouse]

Can't agree, sorry...
...

Given your guitar solo expertise you have demonstrated thus far you must also feel the McRib sandwich is the best BAR B Q ever made?

[mouse]

mouse why do you go out of your way sometimes to make people think you're stupid?

Unlike you I can't just rely on reputation or my screen name.

[mouse]

screen name smack

srsly?

mouse you need to retire your troll skills are stuck at usenet level

Get back to me when you reached 5cc status.

Remember, Jimi was doing this in the 60's...there were not effects

Dunlop JH1 Jimi Hendrix Wah
The Hendrix Series Wah is an original 60's design with modified circuitry to provide for a more open (or fatter) sound by lowering the frequency of the operating range.