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  1. #76
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    Jimi ans his pedals



    Michael Schenker w/o any



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    Last edited by mouse; 12-05-2010 at 12:45 AM.

  2. #77
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    Dunlop JH1 Jimi Hendrix Wah
    The Hendrix Series Wah is an original 60's design with modified circuitry to provide for a more open (or fatter) sound by lowering the frequency of the operating range.
    Mouse, don't edit my posts to say something different than what I said...

    I said that Jimi played in the 60's and there were NOT TOO MANY EFFECTS COMPARED TO THE COMPUTER STUFF OF TODAY!

    I know what a wah pedal is ...you can't compare using a wah to some other that other lesser skilled guitarists cover their weaknesses with...

    The solo on Machine Gun was very appropriate because the song was about war and about soldiers getting ripped to shreds with a machine gun...when Jimi played that fantastic solo he was unrestrained in getting his point across...

    Jimi was 100 times the guitarist that Shenker was/is and I don't hate Shenker..it is just a fact...

    The solo on rock bottom may not even be Shenker's best as he had other solos that rivaled that one...but he still was nowhere near Jimi...

    and ...I know enough about solos...no need for the insults..I have played my share and still do...but that means nothing when we are just having a friendly debate...no need to try and throw insults because we don't agree on something so trivial as a favorite guitar solo...

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    Mouse,

    Did you ever hear Jimi play acoustic?

    Seems like he was pretty amazing with an acoustic guitar-funny ...no effects.

    If you wanna discredit Jimi for using effects...let's talk about pickups...

    Why did Shenker feel the need to use humbuckers?

    Jimi got all that sound and tone from single coils...why did shenker use humbuckers...maybe cause he needed that extra distortion and sustain-which Jimi got with single coils?

    and those effects that you just posted were recently released...this is somebody's version of what jimi used...but Jimi didn't have all this technology...

    The effects he had available at the time were pretty much;
    Wah pedal
    Vibe pedal
    echoplex


    that is probably it. Does this make him less talented because he knew how to coax sounds out of the tools he had?

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    I said that Jimi played in the 60's and there were NOT TOO MANY EFFECTS.I know enough about solos...no need for the insults..no need to try and throw insults because we don't agree on something so trivial as a favorite guitar solo...


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    it's not the number of cc's that determines the quality of the poster
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    Get back to me when you have reached elpimpo4cc
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    mouse why do you go out of your way sometimes to make people think you're stupid?
    He doesn't go out of his way.

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    Why did Shenker feel the need to use humbuckers?
    Jimi got all that sound and tone from single coils...why did shenker use humbuckers...maybe cause he needed that extra distortion and sustain-which Jimi got with single coils?
    ?
    You actually think the pickups are what produce distortion?

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    If you really want to get technical about this debate....Jimi Hendix was the one who had the advantage over Shenker, after all he was able to slide his fingers up and down the neck of the guitar with no friction due to all the Popeye's chicken he ate before each show.

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    Two of my favorites.


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    Well said.

    I am NOT taking anything away from Shawn Lane and players that play that style...but if I can add something to the above statement...it is;

    It actually takes a lot of restraint and maturity to...S-L-O-W- D-O-W-N...


    I know it takes years of woodshedding and discipline to achieve that speed and mastery...but when you start getting mature and comfortable in your own skin...you don't feel the need to make every run..every triplet...every scale backwards and forwards...

    You begin to let the notes...breathe...the space in between is sometimes more powerful than filling up every possible space...

    Just listen to a David Gilmore and see how mature his playing is...every note...is meaningful and toneful and he rarely shows off or plays a bunch of runs in a row just to fill up space.

    Jimi encompassed almost everything that makes great guitar playing...and if you switch the topic to RHYTHM playing...oh my god...just try to tell me that Jimi was NOT a monster and master rhythm player also.
    And sometimes they get bored with letting the notes breathe, too. There isn't a whole lot of Lane out there, but he could play any style amazingly well. I suppose Ornette Coleman and Coltrane couldn't really hack it playing standards so they had to go avant garde...
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    You actually think the pickups are what produce distortion?
    Humbuckers make an amplifier distort faster...depending on the amp and the volume.

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    If you really want to get technical about this debate....Jimi Hendix was the one who had the advantage over Shenker, after all he was able to slide his fingers up and down the neck of the guitar with no friction due to all the Popeye's chicken he ate before each show.
    That is not technical-it is racist.

    I hope you didn't expect some kind of retort focusing on Shenker's german heritage.

    If it was an attempt at comedy, sorry....


    you fail.

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    Humbuckers make an amplifier distort faster...depending on the amp and the volume.
    The speed of sound does not slow down or speed up from what type of pickups you have. And even if it did (humoring you) it would be so small and minute of a difference only a dog or scientist at NASA would have the ability to gauge it.
    you better stick to just posting youtube videos dude.

    Also distortion is an effect that can be used "after" the guitar pickup sends the sound to the amp or through a foot pedal. some amps have distortion built in but it still needs sound first (hence the word pickup) before it can distort it.

    Don't get your purple haze panties all waded up over all this, learn from it and be a better person.

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    That is not technical-it is racist.

    I hope you didn't expect some kind of retort focusing on Shenker's german heritage.
    Its a known fact eating fried chicken before you play the guitar allows your fingers to glide easily up and down the neck of the guitar. no one but yourself brought up the fact Shenker is German but yourself so who is the racist here?

    And what does being a German have to do with Popeye's chicken?


    If it was an attempt at comedy, sorry....
    That is for others to decide and why are you going off topic this is about Guitar solos not comedy,race,or the speed of sound debates.


    you fail.
    I thought this topic was about "SRV.........best guitartist ever"
    why would I have to not fail at anything?
    If anything you fail at How to enter a debate topic about if SRV is the best guitarist ever and not get butt-hurt because your ace in the hole Jimi fried chicken Hendrix got schooled by Michale Shenker.

    add to that your failed attempt to demonstrate how fast sound travels.

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    The speed of sound does not slow down or speed up from what type of pickups you have. And even if it did (humoring you) it would be so small and minute of a difference only a dog or scientist at NASA would have the ability to gauge it.
    you better stick to just posting youtube videos dude.

    Also distortion is an effect that can be used "after" the guitar pickup sends the sound to the amp or through a foot pedal. some amps have distortion built in but it still needs sound first (hence the word pickup) before it can distort it.

    Don't get your purple haze panties all waded up over all this, learn from it and be a better person.
    You are seriously misinformed.
    Do some research on electric guitar pickups BEFORE you try to claim some superiority on this issue.

    You can see for your self anytime if you had an amp and a guitar with both types of pickups.

    I can set my amp to its cleanest settings and play a strat with only single coils and the amp will not begin to distort til the amp volume is on 6 or 7 or 8 and the guitars volume on 10.

    I can do the same test on a guitar with humbuckers and the amp will begin to distort at 3 and up.

    This is fact. Do some research.

    It still really does not have that much to do when comparing Shenker to Hendrix.

    If you REALLY believe Michael Shenker was anywhere near the same league as Jimi Hendrix then you have just told this whole thread and its contributors exactly how knowledgeable you really are.


    Cheers.

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    You are seriously misinformed.
    Do some research on electric guitar pickups BEFORE you try to claim some superiority on this issue.
    Can we save all the research for the NASA and science topics?



    I can set my amp to its cleanest settings and play a strat with only single coils and the amp will not begin to "distort" til the amp volume is on 6 or 7 or 8 and the guitars volume on 10.
    I can do the same test on a guitar with humbuckers and the amp will begin to "distort" at 3 and up.
    I can see you have "distort" and "distortion" confused.

    Distort is when someone like you takes a topic about SRV and uses it to try and show everyone your lack of knowledge about sound and long Google'd research on how Guitars really work.

    Distortion is an effect that is created, it's not from turning up your sound of your amp, if that was the case no one would need to buy "Distorion" foot pedals.


    Distortion (music)
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Distortion, similar to overdrive or fuzz, is an effect applied to the electric guitar, the electric bass, and other amplified instruments such as the Hammond organ, synthesizers, and even harmonica and vocals. Accomplished by electronically compressing and/or clipping the input signal, this effect adds sustain and additional harmonics and overtones to the signal, creating a richer sound. The most subtle types of distortion add a "warm" thickness to the original tone; the more extreme types of distortion range from the noisy, buzzy sound of a late 1960s-era fuzztone pedal to the screaming, "bite", "grit", and "crunch" of a late 1980s thrash-style distortion pedal. Distortion is used across a wide range of musical genres, from the subtle overdrive used in traditional blues to the hard-edged distortion featured in noise music, hardcore punk, industrial, grunge, and metal.

    Early examples of distortion were often the result of accidents in which the guitar amplifier or its vacuum valves was damaged, or because the speakers were "doctored" by poking holes into their speaker cones. One notable example was Link Wray, who dislodged a tube by accident, and then took to doing so as a habit to get a noisy, dirty sound for his solos. Observing this trend, Leo Fender of the Fender amplifier company designed valve guitar amps that would "overdrive" slightly.[citation needed] In the 1960s, fuzzbox effect pedals were popularized by guitarists such as Jimi Hendrix and George Harrison.

    Distortion can be produced by many components of an instrument's signal path, including effects pedals, the pre-amplifier, power amplifier, speakers, or more recently, digital amplifier modelling devices and software. Many players use a combination of these to obtain their "signature" tone.



    This is fact. Do some research.
    Me doing anymore research on guitars is like you doing research in tossing salads, face it... we are both good at what we do already.

    It still really does not have that much to do when comparing Shenker to Hendrix.
    If you knew that already we would not be discussing this matter any further.
    Just pick up whats left of your shattered ass try and glue it back together and lets move on...

    I get tired of being accused of hijacking topics when in fact its the other posters who are on this mouse hunt fetish. I merely reply back out of respect.

    If you REALLY believe Michael Shenker was anywhere near the same league as Jimi Hendrix then you have just told this whole thread and its contributors exactly how knowledgeable you really are.


    Cheers.
    Thank you!

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    1969 stage hand setting up for Jimi Hendrix show.

    ::cough::Bull !::cough::


    Mouse, if he is serious, is completely full of . Jimi Hendrix used a Boss TU-2 chromatic tuner in his rig?! Please . . . Boss didn't even start making pedals until 1976. Jimi used effects for sure, but you've got to be an idiot to believe a) that Hendrix "needed" effects to be a good guitar player, or that b) Michael Schenker does not use effects . . . gtfo.

    Hendrix used a wah wah, octavia, uni-vibe, fuzz-face and Leslie rotary speakers. That's it. And not only does that not diminish anything he accomplished, but it makes him a pioneer of not only the electric guitar, but using effects to create soundscapes that no one had heard before.

    Lol using random pictures of guitar effects that didn't even exist when Hendrix was playing to make a stupid point about Michael Wanker.

    You the bed on this one, Mouse.

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    ::cough::::cough::.
    sounds you make after taking the bait.



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    Hendrix used a wah wah, octavia, uni-vibe, fuzz-face and Leslie rotary
    It that all?

    Pssssst! you left out a few look in the picture.






    You the bed on this one, Mouse.
    So tonight you sleep on the sofa?

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    ::cough::Bull !::cough::


    Mouse, if he is serious, is completely full of . Jimi Hendrix used a Boss TU-2 chromatic tuner in his rig?! Please . . . Boss didn't even start making pedals until 1976. Jimi used effects for sure, but you've got to be an idiot to believe a) that Hendrix "needed" effects to be a good guitar player, or that b) Michael Schenker does not use effects . . . gtfo.

    Hendrix used a wah wah, octavia, uni-vibe, fuzz-face and Leslie rotary speakers. That's it. And not only does that not diminish anything he accomplished, but it makes him a pioneer of not only the electric guitar, but using effects to create soundscapes that no one had heard before.

    Lol using random pictures of guitar effects that didn't even exist when Hendrix was playing to make a stupid point about Michael Wanker.

    You the bed on this one, Mouse.
    +1 million

    Go wash your ass, mouse-you shat all over your cardboard box bed.

    This was actually an opportunity for you to elevate your sig from shenker to hendrix-and if you had an open mind your sig would have been harder to beat in the future.

    Later daze, ESSE!

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    well...a little curve ball...here...

    a ukelele jam...this guy jams on a freakin ukelele...

    If you haven't watched this video watch it. He's considered the best ukulele player in the world.

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    the best ukulele player in the world.
    Are we allowed to disagree?




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    Go wash your ass, mouse-
    And then you will sleep over?

    Later daze, ESSE!
    What is really funny is how you didn't catch the photo your salad tossing pal o wrecker did.

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    Are we allowed to disagree?



    You can, but you'd be wrong.

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    You can, but you'd be wrong.
    At least you didn't tell me to wash my ass, that dude and his ass fetish creeps me out.


    ok all BS aside top this solo.



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