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I did enjoy The Pacific. I thought it started slow but really picked up the last half of the series.
If you compare any war-themed series to BoB, it will always pale in comparison. I looked at pacific with no expectation that it would rival BoB, and was able to really enjoy it as its own show.
I did enjoy The Pacific. I thought it started slow but really picked up the last half of the series.
Oh yeah, Omar's back.
Anyone still watching this? Incredible series.
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One of the best shows imo
I've always had a fascination with the mafia though, so I'm a little biased. I haven't seen last night episode yet but the show is getting better and better. Love the fictional character of Jimmy Darmody as an active participant/witness to history. Seeing Michael K. Williams (Omar in The Wire) as Chalky White is a plus too
I'm totally hooked
I like it, but not as much as I wanted to. I find myself annoyed by many of the same things that kept me from getting into "The Sopranos."
I think the show is really great. I loved the scene between Nucky and the guy who is a politician or something when they are at the Caucus/Primary for Warren G. Harding. As a history buff, that is so typical 1880-1930 United States politics and I find it to be brilliant.
There are a few characters that annoy the out of me. I liked when Jimmy was pimping Luciano around if only so briefly. Also Van Alden is pretty damn annoying. I hope he gets killed off soon. I think it's probably his religious thing that annoys the out of me.
P.S. The guy who plays Richard, the WWI vet who wears the mask is a really good actor. Call it weird but I really like when he speaks, he does such a good job, you would think he's really missing half his face.
great show.
One of the best shows imo
I've always had a fascination with the mafia though, so I'm a little biased. I haven't seen last night episode yet but the show is getting better and better. Love the fictional character of Jimmy Darmody as an active participant/witness to history. Seeing Michael K. Williams (Omar in The Wire) as Chalky White is a plus too
I'm totally hooked
Steve Buscemi is the only actor that could have played the role of Nucky. Elections were bought back then, just as they are now.
Val Alden is a freak, I too hope he gets killed off.There are a few characters that annoy the out of me. I liked when Jimmy was pimping Luciano around if only so briefly. Also Van Alden is pretty damn annoying. I hope he gets killed off soon. I think it's probably his religious thing that annoys the out of me.@ baptism
P.S. The guy who plays Richard, the WWI vet who wears the mask is a really good actor. Call it weird but I really like when he speaks, he does such a good job, you would think he's really missing half his face.
Series finale is next Sunday.But......
Along with critical acclaim and high ratings, HBO renewed Boardwalk Empire for a second season.
Yep that Van Alden is psycho---I was expecting all along that he would end up in a romantic rivalry with Nucky for the hand of the fair Margaret, and make the show too soapy for me. But no, he's just in' pathological
I could pretty much do without the Jimmy's bi wife storyline; doesn't really add anything to the show.
My favorite episode so far has been the one about Nucky and his dad's dysfunction; that was a really great look into what makes Nucky tick.
Great show however I hope they aren't going to get rid of the Van Alden character, imo he's the second best guy on the show next to Mr. Pink. More Al Capone would be great as well.
Here's an interview with Michael Shannon about Van Alden's recent actions:
Van Alden hasn't turned out at all the way we expected. Was there some point when you got a script and were like, “Oh, wow. I didn’t know he was going to be this kind of guy.”
Well, it was a little disappointing. The thing that disappointed me the most was when he drank. Shooting that episode in general was kind of upsetting. I guess I figured he’d probably drink eventually. I just didn’t think it would happen so quickly. It’s fine. I just thought maybe, you know, the second season or if we were lucky, the third season. But to put it right in the first season I was like, oh, all right. You don’t know anything when you view the script for the pilot, and you get the script for the next episode after read-through, so you don’t know. It’s kind of like walking out onto a bridge that isn’t finished being built and then they build it as you’re walking across the chasm.
He’s not even that good at his job.
I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to say he’s not good at his job. I think he’s been put in an impossible situation. I think he actually is good at his job. I mean, he knows Jimmy Darmody killed all those guys. It’s not like he doesn’t know what happens. He just can’t do anything about it. And that’s not really his fault. That’s because his boss won’t let him do anything. Van Alden’s not at the top of the food chain. He’s a mid-level guy.
So let’s talk about the two really surprising things that Van Alden has done in the last two episodes. On last night’s episode, he drowned Agent Sebso. Tell me about that.
I don’t think he wanted to kill him, I just think he wanted to baptize him. The kid, he wouldn’t say yes and, you know, Van Alden’s a very angry person and I think when he drowns Sebso, he’s drowning everybody. He’s drowning Nucky, he’s drowning this whole situation. Because I think he resents the fact that he’s been put in the middle of so much sin and depravity. I think Van Alden really wants to be a good person, but there’s a lot of resentment and frustration built up inside of him because he can’t — it’s impossible. In this environment, he can’t maintain his character and his ideals. And so he’s disgusted with himself as much as anybody else … I think the word is he snapped.
Sebso’s not a particularly upstanding gentleman, but he dies because he refuses to convert, which takes some spine.
Sebso’s a little creep. He shot the witness. He’s not a good person. Sebso’s an asshole. I mean, I’m not saying he deserved to die, but he’s not an example of a great guy.
The other really surprising thing Van Alden did happened in the previous episode, when he had sex with Lucy. Why’d he do that?
I think it’s fairly obvious that the thing that Margaret and Lucy have in common is that they're both with Nucky, and I think that Van Alden is fascinated with Margaret and upset with Nucky. I think he’s also fascinated with Nucky, too. And in a weird way, being with Lucy is some sort of attack on Nucky for him, some way of getting back at him for taking Margaret.
But he’s so disgusted with himself after having sex with Lucy, cowering at the end of the bed.
Well, yeah. It was a bad play, no question. I think anybody with two nickels to rub together would know it’s a bad play.
Van Alden seems like the kind of person who would think it was a bad play any time he had sex with anyone.
Yes. Pretty much. I think if it was Margaret, he wouldn’t be so repulsed, but it doesn’t matter, because it’s not going to happen.
What is it about Margaret that Van Alden is so drawn to?
I think there’s probably some pretty simple things about it. You know, she’s a beautiful woman and he’s probably attracted to her. It’s probably the first time he’s ever actually been physically attracted to somebody. I don’t think he’s attracted to his wife or anybody. I think he also, at the beginning, imagines that he can save her. He wants to save her from her horrible life and he sees her as this pure person, angelic and innocent. And he knows that she’s heading down this path towards Nucky and all the sin and ugliness, but he doesn’t give up hope that maybe he can rescue her from that.
But he seems like he’s given up on hope now.
Yeah, that happens after he goes to Margaret’s house. There is that scene that nobody wants to ask me about. They want to ask about, you know, when you drank and you banged Lucy and you drowned a dude, but there’s also a really important scene where I go to Margaret’s house and I say, “I can see your soul.” You know, really intense. I lay it all out on the table and she tells me to go away. To me, that’s the turning point, when all the dominoes start falling is when I walk out of her house. He just lost everything. He knows Jimmy Darmody’s guilty and he wants to put him in jail. He can’t make that happen. He can’t trust his partner and he can’t trust his boss. He can’t get anything done in his work and then the woman that he’s in love with tells him that he’s a jerk and to get out of her house.
He’s so unsettling, you don’t blame Margaret for telling him to get lost.
I don’t blame anybody for anything. I certainly don’t think Margaret should be in love with Van Alden. But it’s what he wants. He wants to put Jimmy Darmody in jail. He wants to run away with Margaret. I mean, that’s just what he wants and he can’t have it. So, he can’t have anything he wants, he might as well go get drunk. Isn’t that the way it is in life? Can’t get what you want, you go be a drunk.
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^^Nice interview, thanks for posting! Mr Shannon sure has a lot of sympathy for that sicko, huh?
I watched an episode with a cousin who knows Michael Shannon from working in New York theater circles and she said he's a total creeper. Not a bad person, or mean, just creepy and weird. Which is not at all surprising.
He proved that.Yep that Van Alden is psycho---I was expecting all along that he would end up in a romantic rivalry with Nucky for the hand of the fair Margaret, and make the show too soapy for me. But no, he's just in' pathological
Yeah, a big meh to that storyline, it's bringing nothing to the series, except a little lesbian action.I could pretty much do without the Jimmy's bi wife storyline; doesn't really add anything to the show.
I don't have a favorite, love them all.My favorite episode so far has been the one about Nucky and his dad's dysfunction; that was a really great look into what makes Nucky tick.
Where do you think Margaret went?
Comments, criticism from last night's finale?
I'm watching the final ep tonight, can't wait.
W/o giving anything away, was it good or a letdown?
It was good.
Van ALden is a proud papa
Pretty good IMO
The scene where Nucky tells the story of his family was Emmy worthy IMO.
Regarding the possible Jimmy-COmmodore-Eli alliance, it's gonna be interesting to see how it turns out
And LMAO Van Alden
It was great! I don't think Jimmy can turn against Nuckey, but it'll be great to see how it all plays out. And I love how Margaret's righteousness softened at the prospect of becoming des ute, just as I suspected
I'm just wondering how long HBO is going to make us wait for the next season? Now that this latest Sunday night lineup from HBO is over, I have absolutely nothing left to watch; it sure was nice having one night of tv to look forward to.
I've read that HBO will be running a "Mildred Pierce" miniseries next year, but I'm kinda scared to have a look because I'm such a fan of the original Joan Crawford classic. It'd be devastating to see it messed with
She knew she had it good.It was great! I don't think Jimmy can turn against Nuckey, but it'll be great to see how it all plays out. And I love how Margaret's righteousness softened at the prospect of becoming des ute, just as I suspected
I don't know when new season will start.I'm just wondering how long HBO is going to make us wait for the next season? Now that this latest Sunday night lineup from HBO is over, I have absolutely nothing left to watch; it sure was nice having one night of tv to look forward to.
I don't understand that Jimmy turning on Nucky either. He simply can't. You know he's just listening to his real dad, but when his dad said the thing about him being his flesh and blood I expected Jimmy to say yeah and you haven't done for me.It was great! I don't think Jimmy can turn against Nuckey, but it'll be great to see how it all plays out. And I love how Margaret's righteousness softened at the prospect of becoming des ute, just as I suspected
I'm just wondering how long HBO is going to make us wait for the next season? Now that this latest Sunday night lineup from HBO is over, I have absolutely nothing left to watch; it sure was nice having one night of tv to look forward to.
I've read that HBO will be running a "Mildred Pierce" miniseries next year, but I'm kinda scared to have a look because I'm such a fan of the original Joan Crawford classic. It'd be devastating to see it messed with
I thought when Jimmy told Nucky he didn't care for him, Nucky would pull out the saved his life card because he should have killed Jimmy for what he did with Capone and ing it up between Nucky and Rothstein.
I thought it was a really good season finale, and Van Alden is one ing psycho piece of . I really dislike him, and I hope they find out about him killing Sebso.
I really can't reconcile how Van Alden's superiors decry him for being obsessed with Atlantic City, then Sebso, the reasonable one of them all, suddenly dies of a heart attack and they don't suspect him. Crazy but maybe the next season will remedy it all.
I hope Jimmy doesn't turn on Nucky and become an enemy, I really like him as a character.
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