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    Will they be called the Obama Tax Cuts?

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    I'm sure they will be if the recession deepens and we don't get any closer to paying off the debt. I prefer to call it the "Congress is Run by Scoundrels Tax Cuts." The Democrats were spineless and the Republicans were once again the slimy sports agents to their base of the super wealthy.

    But good thing millionaires get to keep that extra 3 or 4 percent. I'm sure they'll be putting all sorts of job offers out next year. Especially the ones that work on Wall Street.

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    I support the Obama tax cuts. See? I'm not so close minded.

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    To be completely clear, CC: are you saying you support extending the cuts, making them permanent, or both?

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    and pay those overdraft fees, $38B in 2009, vs total bank profits of $13B.

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    cant wait to see what jobs i get as a result of guys like charles barkely keeping more of their money

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    cant wait to see what jobs i get as a result of guys like charles barkely keeping more of their money
    good one

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    Magic Negro folded. Repugs get their extended tax breaks for everyone, and $Bs more in estate tax breaks for the superwealthy, just to get unemployment insurance extended 13 months.

    MN doesn't have a chance in 2012.

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    Why do you want to steal from dead people boutons?

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    "steal from dead people"

    You Lie, S.O.P.

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    How can a dead person own something?

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    Why would you want to steal from families just because the parents died? The parents worked all their lives, paid all their taxes, and saved money (after tax) to pass down to their kids. Why should the government be allowed to confiscate their savings? ing Communists...

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    Why do you want to steal from dead people boutons?
    Because it is better than having an aristocracy.

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    Why would you want to steal from families just because the parents died? The parents worked all their lives, paid all their taxes, and saved money (after tax) to pass down to their kids. Why should the government be allowed to confiscate their savings? ing Communists...
    Why should people be given tax-free money just because their parents died?

    Rewarding people simply because of who their parents are was one of the things we rebelled against in 1776.

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    Why should people be given tax-free money just because their parents died?

    Rewarding people simply because of who their parents are was one of the things we rebelled against in 1776.
    Whats the point of working hard and saving money all your life if the government is just going to steal it?

    So when your parents die you think the government should get their house? Thats most peoples biggest asset.

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    To be completely clear, CC: are you saying you support extending the cuts, making them permanent, or both?
    If it's the best we can do I support making the cuts permanent and having the government learn to live within it's means.

    I would PREFER we go to a simple two stage flat tax system with NO corporate or personal deductions/credits.

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    "we rebelled against in 1776"

    aka, primogeniture, a main objective in FFs design of US govt.

    "steal it"

    You Lie. Taxes aren't theft.

    "flat tax system"

    profoundly regressive, as I expected from you richies.

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    Tax is not theft? It's not taking money/things by force or threat of force?



    Boutons, you crack me up.

    So you honestly think that when your parents die, everything they owned that is left should go directly to the government?

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    You Lie. Taxes aren't theft.

    "flat tax system"

    profoundly regressive, as I expected from you richies.


    Boutons, do you not understand that a true flat tax system is the ONLY WAY we can take the power away from the big corps, wall street, etc. that buys politicians for their billions of huge tax breaks? How is that regressive?

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    If it's the best we can do I support making the cuts permanent and having the government learn to live within it's means.
    Faulty compound. Making all tax cuts permanent is a deficit buster. To the tune of about $4T over ten years.

    Bush tax cuts: $458 billion. The package would extend the Bush tax cuts for everyone for two years, including two years of relief for the middle class from the Alternative Minimum Tax. The estimated cost would be $458 billion, according to earlier numbers from the Treasury Department. The bulk of that cost -- $383 billion -- is for the extension of cuts for families making less than $250,000. The rest -- roughly $75 billion -- is attributable to the extension of cuts that apply to the highest income families.


    The cost of extending all the tax cuts over 10 years would have been $3.7 trillion.
    http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/07/news...bama/index.htm

    How can you not see that extending the Bush cuts is essentially incompatible with having government live within its means unless the cost is somehow offset?
    Last edited by Winehole23; 12-07-2010 at 12:17 PM.

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    I support the Obama tax cuts. See? I'm not so close minded.
    What gets me is they are calling tax credits a tax cut. Giving people money who pay no federal income tax.

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    I support the Obama tax cuts. See? I'm not so close minded.
    Yep, you made out nice with those tax credits, didn't you....

    In this case, since you pay so much in tax, at least you got to keep a little more. I just hate it when people 'bank' on these credits.

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    and pay those overdraft fees, $38B in 2009, vs total bank profits of $13B.
    Evidence please. Maybe you should read the Obama Health Care bill, and see the medicare cuts in it!

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    cant wait to see what jobs i get as a result of guys like charles barkely keeping more of their money
    Maybe you can sell SUV's, build swimming pools, etc.

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