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    This is what happens when corporations buy and co-opt the world press. All we get now is reality TV and the latest escapes of LiLo and Lady GaGa. Real news has to go off the grid.

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    I can't prove anything other than the fact that Scooter was a scapegoat for Cheney.
    Bull . You can't prove that either.

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    Not that I know of. AFAIK, they never singled out sources.
    I'm pretty sure I read that someplace some months back.

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    Bull . You can't prove that either.
    What was scooter lying about then? Why did he feel the need to hide evidence?

    He was convicted of both.

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    This is what happens when corporations buy and co-opt the world press. All we get now is reality TV and the latest escapes of LiLo and Lady GaGa. Real news has to go off the grid.
    The masses don't want real news any more. They want to see how sensationally ed up others are, so they can feel good about themselves. That's why we have so many viewers of up shows.

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    Start saving. You have a whole lot of stupid in ya.

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    The masses don't want real news any more. They want to see how sensationally ed up others are, so they can feel good about themselves. That's why we have so many viewers of up shows.
    People will eat what they're fed. They watched when there was real news and good shows. Now, we just get "Bread and Circuses". Someone made that decision. It's pretty much a known fact that a docile, less educated population is more easily led around by the nose

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    People will eat what they're fed. They watched when there was real news and good shows. Now, we just get "Bread and Circuses". Someone made that decision. It's pretty much a known fact that a docile, less educated population is more easily led around by the nose
    Eh, people aren't stupid. There's a reason why the media is less trusted than nearly any other profession, and why many people are turning to online sources.

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    Eh, people aren't stupid. There's a reason why the media is less trusted than nearly any other profession, and why many people are turning to online sources.
    That doesn't explain FAUX News....


    .....besides, the M$M is kinda like Chinese water torture...you don't buy it at first but the constant peck...peck...peck..... will get to you....and it gets to millions of stupid independents...

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    Meanwhile...Wikileaks was pulled from the amazon Ghost servers because the DOS attacks were slowing down other network traffic on the servers....rumored to be at 10G/sec at its height.....

    ...but....

    WikiLeaks WON'T be stopped': Founder reveals 100,000 encrypted versions of secret files have been sent out as insurance

    The founder of WikiLeaks today revealed he has sent out 100,000 encrypted copies of secret diplomatic cables so they will definitely be released whatever happens to him.

    Julian Assange, breaking his silence in an online question and answer session, acknowledged there had been death threats against him and his colleagues because of the damaging leaks. He told for the first time of the insurance policy he had put in place to ensure that his whistleblowing website will not be silenced, whatever drastic steps may be taken by his enemies.

    =snip=

    'The threats against our lives are a matter of public record. However, we are taking the appropriate precautions to the degree that we are able when dealing with a superpower,' he said.

    All the leaked American diplomatic cables as well as 'significant material from the U.S. and other countries' has been copied to more than 100,000 people in encrypted form, he added. 'If something happens to us, the key parts will be released automatically,' he wrote.
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    but....Wikileaks won't be stopped...
    Wikileaks is currently hosted in Iceland, but it could easily move to another country. Mirror sites all over the world could copy the information on the main site and make it available even if they main site were shut down entirely. And Wikileaks data is also circulating through the file sharing service BitTorrent. Removing all copies of that data would be incredibly difficult, as the record industry is well aware.

    Even operating outside of legal means, it would be hard to shut Wikileaks down. Hours before the release of a portion of the cables on Sunday, Wikileaks came under a denial of service attack. Craig Labovitz, chief scientist at network security company Arbor Networks, has posted an analysis of the attack, which he says didn't particularly harm Wikileaks' operations. The site simply changed its hosting location to cloud providers in Ireland and the U.S..

    Any serious attempt to take Wikileaks offline is going to meet the difficulties inherent to the Internet's distributed, anarchic architecture. And that's exactly what Wikileaks' top activists are counting on.
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    The govt just went after file-sharing sites, mostly bit torrent sites and those that led you to bit torrent sites...now we know whyl...

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    That doesn't explain FAUX News....


    .....besides, the M$M is kinda like Chinese water torture...you don't buy it at first but the constant peck...peck...peck..... will get to you....and it gets to millions of stupid independents...
    I meant people as a whole. That means large amounts of the population can still be stupid.

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    From the atlantic...

    The Shameful Attacks on Julian Assange
    DEC 3 2010, 10:00 AM ET


    - snip -

    Assange may or may not be grandiose, paranoid and delusional - terms that might be fairly applied at one time or another to most prominent investigative reporters of my acquaintance. But the fact that so many prominent old school journalists are attacking him with such unbridled force is a symptom of the failure of traditional reporting methods to penetrate a culture of official secrecy that has grown by leaps and bounds since 9/11, and threatens the functioning of a free press as a cornerstone of democracy.

    The true importance of Wikileaks -- and the key to understanding the motivations and behavior of its founder -- lies not in the contents of the latest do ent dump but in the technology that made it possible, which has already shown itself to be a potent weapon to undermine official lies and defend human rights. Since 1997, Assange has devoted a great deal of his time to inventing encryption systems that make it possible for human rights workers and others to protect and upload sensitive data. The importance of Assange's efforts to human rights workers in the field were recognized last year by Amnesty International, which gave him its Media Award for the Wikileaks investigation The Cry of Blood - Extra Judicial Killings and Disappearances, which do ented the killing and disappearance of 500 young men in Kenya by the police, with the apparent connivance of the country's political leadership.

    Yet the difficulties of do enting official murder in Kenya pale next to the task of penetrating the secret world that threatens to swallow up informed public discourse in this country about America's wars. The 250,000 cables that Wikileaks published this month represent only a drop in the bucket that holds the estimated 16 million do ents that are classified top secret by the federal government every year. According to a three-part investigative series by Dana Priest and William Arkin published earlier this year in The Washington Post, an estimated 854,000 people now hold top secret clearance - more than 1.5 times the population of Washington, D.C. "The top-secret world the government created in response to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become so large, so unwieldy and so secretive," the Post concluded, "that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs, how many programs exist within it or exactly how many agencies do the same work."

    The result of this classification mania is the division of the public into two distinct groups: those who are privy to the actual conduct of American policy, but are forbidden to write or talk about it, and the uninformed public, which becomes easy prey for the official lies exposed in the Wikileaks do ents: The failure of American counterinsurgency programs in Afghanistan, the involvement of China and North Korea in the Iranian nuclear program, the likely failure of attempts to separate Syria from Iran, the involvement of Iran in destabilizing Iraq, the anti-Western orientation of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and other tenets of American foreign policy under both Bush and Obama.

    It is a fact of the current media landscape that the chilling effect of threatened legal action routinely stops reporters and editors from pursuing stories that might serve the public interest - and anyone who says otherwise is either ignorant or lying. Every honest reporter and editor in America knows that the fact that most news organizations are broke, combined with the increasing threat of aggressive legal action by deep-pocketed en ies, private and public, has made it much harder for good reporters to do their jobs, and ripped a hole in the delicate fabric that holds our democracy together.
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    Joe Liebermann on his proposed so-called SHIELD Act (Securing Human Intelligence and Enforcing Lawful Dissemination)...

    This legislation will help hold people criminally accountable who endanger these sources of information that are vital to protecting our national security interests,”
    o? Valarie Plame o?

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    After the they released today he needs to be dealt with. Asshole went way too far

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    Does anyone think an organization as intelligent and discplined as the 9/11 attack demonstrated really needs Assange to tell them where other targets are?

    If AQ wanted to hit those targets, it would have.

    If the US was serious about protecting those targets, it would have.

    But AQ has suckered the US into Afghanistan and is killing Americans there, will be for decades, and burning holes in our national treasury, the debt burden with doesn't seem to bother the grandchildren-loving Repugs at all.

    Can't wait for Assange to drop his banker's data load. I expect it will prove crimes and fraud beyond a doubt, the DoJ won't touch it, claiming some like "inadmissable evidence", or if DoJ did prosecute, it would go to SCOTUS where activist right-wing extremist would yet again come down on the side of business against citizens.

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    Why are Assanges lawyers fighting extradition to Sweden?
    Sweden just got thru fluffing the pillow of sicko Roman Polanski for months before putting a mint on it and wishing him farewell. And Polanski was guilty beyond a doubt. Assanges might not be.

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    not interviewed

    not charged

    Swedes say it's not for rape (UK police lied about that one)

    wanted for questioning.

    one of the chicks accusing Assange has links to CIA, what a surprise.

    http://www.aolnews.com/world/article...probe/19741444

    Visa and Mastercard, joining Paypal, have shut down Wikileaks payments.

    US politicians want this foreigner, who has broken no laws, assassinated extra-judicially, I guess because they don't foreigners.

    How would US politicians react if foreign politicians wanted a US citizen assassinated, let's say the President of the NRA?

    America is exceptional, in its own eyes.
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    Why are Assanges lawyers fighting extradition to Sweden?
    Sweden just got thru fluffing the pillow of sicko Roman Polanski for months before putting a mint on it and wishing him farewell. And Polanski was guilty beyond a doubt. Assanges might not be.
    Well, one of those S countries anyway...

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    Well, one of those S countries anyway...
    Yeah. They both have hot looking blonde chicks.
    Why is Assanges lawyers fighting it. Seems like it would be 10Xs better for him then US buddy Britan.

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    conservative assholes like Lierberman want Assange charged with treason against USA.

    Bothersome detail: non-US citizens, and Australian citizen Assange has never even resided in USA, can't be charged with treason.

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    Start saving. You have a whole lot of stupid in ya.
    I'm fine jack. Thanks for asking.

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    conservative assholes like Lierberman want Assange charged with treason against USA.

    Bothersome detail: non-US citizens, and Australian citizen Assange has never even resided in USA, can't be charged with treason.
    Lieberman... a conservative/

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