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    What would Pop do?

    Trade Perkins for Bonner?
    but of course!

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    Someone notify the OP we can't go 82-0

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    Did you see Big Baby hit that 3 the other night? I think you have your answer.

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    Or play the right players.
    yeah, because the current record is sooooooo bad.

    Bonner opens up lanes for guards, plays good positional defense, and few mental mistakes.

    He has the same vertical as Parker, which makes him pretty useless as a shot blocker or rebounder.

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    You clowns need to get a clue already.

    When you mess with Bonner, you mess with death. As everyone witnessed the past two post-seasons.

    Let me ask y'all clowns another question.

    Which of the two is the most significant attribute of a championship caliber team?

    Interior defense or a more spread out floor offensively?
    Last edited by EricD; 12-08-2010 at 05:12 PM.

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    because Bonner is the reason we got swept by the Suns and lost to the mavs in 09


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    Which of the two is the most significant attribute of a championship caliber team?

    Interior defense or a more spread out floor offensively?
    Umm, guys?

    Why hasn't anyone answered this?

    Experts?

    My fellow gray name peers?

    Black/bold geniuses?


    ST's Chris Sheridan of the D-League, Chump?

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    I know this has NOTHING to do with this trade but i was thinking what player could be a better version of Bonner with similar but less deficiencies and i came up with Andrea Bargnani. His BYC makes him tradeable for Bonner and Splitter straight up.

    So would you do a Bargnani+Chris Bosh 3.4M TE for Bonner+Splitter+Quinn? (The TE is necesary to compensate both ways for the BYC clause)

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    I'd really like to know some expert opinions on the matter.
    You came to the wrong place.

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    I know this has NOTHING to do with this trade but i was thinking what player could be a better version of Bonner with similar but less deficiencies and i came up with Andrea Bargnani. His BYC makes him tradeable for Bonner and Splitter straight up.

    So would you do a Bargnani+Chris Bosh 3.4M TE for Bonner+Splitter+Quinn? (The TE is necesary to compensate both ways for the BYC clause)
    I think a more plausible idea would have been Ryan Anderson, who is also a much better all around PF/C that I wish the spurs could have gotten for Bonner's expiring deal before they signed him to that 4yr deal. Bonner is virtually untradeable with that contract now, unless you throw in a sweetener like Neal or Anderson.

    I think the magic could have been persuaded to part ways with Pietrus too (before the season) by throwing in the spurs #1 pick Anderson. (Bonner's expiring+Anderson).

    Pietrus would probably be getting Udoka's minutes and most of Neal's (if not all) and would have really cranked up the spurs defense a couple of notches.

    *Sigh*...

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    I know this has NOTHING to do with this trade but i was thinking what player could be a better version of Bonner with similar but less deficiencies and i came up with Andrea Bargnani. His BYC makes him tradeable for Bonner and Splitter straight up.

    So would you do a Bargnani+Chris Bosh 3.4M TE for Bonner+Splitter+Quinn? (The TE is necesary to compensate both ways for the BYC clause)
    I think a more plausible idea would have been Ryan Anderson, who is also a much better all around PF/C that I wish the spurs could have gotten for Bonner's expiring deal before they signed him to that 4yr deal. Bonner is virtually untradeable with that contract now, unless you throw in a sweetener like Neal or Anderson.

    I think the magic could have been persuaded to part ways with Pietrus too (before the season) by throwing in the spurs #1 pick Anderson. (Bonner's expiring+Anderson).

    Pietrus would probably be getting Udoka's minutes and most of Neal's (if not all) and would have really cranked up the spurs defense a couple of notches.

    *Sigh*...
    None of the trades described here would have worked under the rules.

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    None of the trades described here would have worked under the rules.
    Huh?

    Bonner @ 3.2m + Anderson @ 1.3m = 4.5m

    Pietrus @ 5.3

    4.5m is close enough to 5.3 for the trade to work.

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    Huh?

    Bonner @ 3.2m + Anderson @ 1.3m = 4.5m

    Pietrus @ 5.3

    4.5m is close enough to 5.3 for the trade to work.
    Your scenario was Bonner's expiring plus the pick for Pietrus. That wouldn't have worked.

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    Your scenario was Bonner's expiring plus the pick for Pietrus. That wouldn't have worked.
    I clearly stated the #1 pick Anderson.

    Read much?

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    I clearly stated the #1 pick Anderson.

    Read much?


    This is the problem when you choose to remain ignorant.

    Here's what you said:

    I think the magic could have been persuaded to part ways with Pietrus too (before the season) by throwing in the spurs #1 pick Anderson. (Bonner's expiring+Anderson).
    The last date that Bonner's contract was an expiring contract eligible to be traded was last February's trading deadline. By the time Anderson was drafted in June, Bonner's contract was expired and could not be traded.

    Spend a few minutes a night reading this:

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

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    This is the problem when you choose to remain ignorant.

    Here's what you said:



    The last date that Bonner's contract was an expiring contract eligible to be traded was last February's trading deadline. By the time Anderson was drafted in June, Bonner's contract was expired and could not be traded.

    Spend a few minutes a night reading this:

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm


    Sorry Mel_13.

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    Another day at school.

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    Since y'all didn't want to answer my question and brought up trade scenario's instead, me and my pal trade machine have been underground getting busy.

    Kudos for me, who brought this up ( if it happens in the future). But I bought this proposal up in another thread.

    What about Favors???

    Some of you probably aren't as aware as I am, but I remember hearing Spurs were interested in Favors prior to the draft.

    I bet they still are interested.

    What you think?

    Blair and Bonner for Favors?
    To those who might not agree, read below

    They just might. You don't know, your name isn't Billy King now is it?

    Nets need a shooting 4 butter and egg man, like Bonner, to spread the floor so Devin Harris, Brook Lopez and Anthony Marrow can have more room to operate. As it stands, Nets are 26th in the league in scoring at 94.6 points per game. With Bonner that can go up at least 10 points with the room he creates.

    At the same time they would be getting a much needed energy guy at the 4 in DeJuan Blair to come off the bench.

    Now the question is-- Would Pop do it? I doubt it-- Manu, Tim, Tony and crew need Bonner out there to score because he brings his man away from the paint. Underrated value there according to Pop.

    So yeah I doubt Spurs would do it.

    Spreading the floor> Interior Defense according to Pop post May 06'.
    Good explanation, No?

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    Pop is a terrible coach and has absolutely nothing to do with the four rings the Spurs have won. Spurs should fire him and get a real coach, like Mike Brown. To answer your question, he would trade for Troy Murphy and then start him over KG, because, you know, he has no idea what he is doing

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    Another day of padding my post count and pretending I'm smarter than everyone else.

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    If he coached the Celtics?

    They got rid of Scalabrine, so Pop wouldn't have a big to spread the floor anymore!

    Can the Celtics still be a contender without a big to spread the floor?

    I mean Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and KG would need an extra shooter at the 4 spot in order for Pierce Allen and crew to have room to score, according to Pop.

    What would Pop do?

    Trade Perkins for Bonner?
    Fail

    Career marks

    Brian Scalabrine - 35% 3G% - below the league average
    Matt Bonner - 41% 3G% - Most coaches would kill for a guard that shot that.

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    Wasn't the question smart pants.

    Pop is in love with shooting fours and thinks the Spurs need shooting fourman in order for Manu, Tony and crew to score. Which is a load of bologna.

    Which is why he's been playing Bonner over everyone else.

    He needs to get a clue already.
    That 18-3 mark isn't clue enough for YOU?

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    Another day of showing just how much my butt hurts.
    So sensitive.

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    Post #44..

    What do you guys think?

    Reason why I bumped it is because I see posters are posting more tonight. Just saying


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