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    Feds better move fast, looks like the Swedish case may be leaking badly.

    Assange accuser flees to Middle East, may not be cooperating with police
    I never believed this was real, but just an underhanded way to get him detained.
    Some of the WikiLeaks critics who cheered founder Julian Assange's arrest may want to think again. The prospect of Assange being sent to Sweden in a sex-crimes inquiry may make it less likely that he'll wind up before an American judge,
    I don't think we have a case against him anyway. He wasn't the betrayer of the information.
    obstacle: The First Amendment. Thanks to nearly a century of cases dealing with the clash between national security and the freedom of the press, the Cons ution provides enormous protection for publishers of state secrets. Those who leak the secrets in the first place — government officials, even soldiers, for instance — can and are prosecuted, such as Army private, Bradley Manning, now sitting in a military prison after having been charged with illegally downloading secret files amid su ions that he gave them to WikiLeaks.
    No . It's called freedom of the press, and there are few things that can be stopped.

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    I'm starting to think the USA should not try to get Julian Assange here to the US. He can claim to be some sort of news organization and all he has done is break news. Nothing wrong with that. I don't believe it but perhaps thats what he thinks he is doing, breaking news. With that said I will have zero problem if we kill the bas . He is putting american lives in jeopardy but putting him through our court systems would not accomplish anything. Just kill the mother er and be done with it.
    As much as I despise the piece of s for what he did, I don't see him as breaking any laws. I don't see any legal recourse against him. Isn't this what CIA black ops are for? Taking out people?
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    Murdering non-US citizen Assange without due process and for breaking a US law because you don't like him exposing the truth is exactly like lynching blacks, which wasn't a crime and was never prosecuted.

    And you guys LOVE the Cons ution and "inalienable rights" (only when it suits your politics)

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    As much as I despise the piece of s for what he did, I don't see him breaking any crimes. I don't see any legal recourse against him. Isn't this what CIA black ops are for? Taking out people?
    That's what I would use them for. Induce a heart attack or something while he is eating sushi.

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    Murdering non-US citizen Assange without due process and for breaking a US law because you don't like him exposing the truth is exactly like lynching blacks, which wasn't a crime and was never prosecuted.

    And you guys LOVE the Cons ution and "inalienable rights" (only when it suits your politics)
    Assange Breaking a US law. I havent been informed about which law he allegedly broke, and as one can read on the news the top lawyers of the US administration are having difficulties to find anything they can apply.

    Apart from that, for anybody who is interested here is a link to an interview (incl transcript) with Noam Chomsky about Wikileaks and the reaction of our political leaders which are as anti-democratic as it gets.

    http://www.democracynow.org/2010/11/...eveal_profound

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    Murdering non-US citizen Assange without due process and for breaking a US law because you don't like him exposing the truth is exactly like lynching blacks, which wasn't a crime and was never prosecuted.

    And you guys LOVE the Cons ution and "inalienable rights" (only when it suits your politics)
    That's what I would use them for. Induce a heart attack or something while he is eating sushi.
    I definitely would use em on people like Sommerset who hate freedom and democracy...

    Sommerset, go to China or Russia or Iran if thats your way of doing business. The Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution needs more people like you...

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    I've read several articles where IT people are dumbfounded that military IT people allowed supposedly 3M people access to what the leaking private had access to. Which military IT people are being prosecuted, retired, pursued for such a huge error in IT security system design? Probably none.
    As a military IT person, I think I'm well-positioned to speak on this point.

    First off, contractors work on nearly half of our government systems anyways. Couple that with the fact that, relatively often, rules are broken in order to make a high-ranking officer happy, younger airman/soldiers/etc don't often know what's right and wrong. If an official looking 3M guy walks up and says he needs the info for some general, I wouldn't be surprised if an amn gave it to him. (NCO's would know better, we don't do anything without express permission from above

    Second, if an airman does give up secrets, it's not just an airman's fault, but the fault of leadership for poor training.

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    That's what I would use them for. Induce a heart attack or something while he is eating sushi.
    Again, that would trigger a ton of info he's kept hidden so far. Which is probably why he released it to other people.

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    I definitely would use em on people like Sommerset who hate freedom and democracy...

    Sommerset, go to China or Russia or Iran if thats your way of doing business. The Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution needs more people like you...
    I say we open up troll season, and shoot you silly ass.


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    Again, that would trigger a ton of info he's kept hidden so far. Which is probably why he released it to other people.
    You with the bull you get the horns. He has proven he will keep releasing info no matter what. Politically speaking, kill him then deny we had anything to do with it.

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    I say we open up troll season, and shoot you silly ass.

    I take that you are so ugly and unpalatable that nobody will take aim at your silly ass.

    And your response only further shows that you disrespect any value of an openly democratic society.

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    State Dept defining Assange as non-journalist, as a political anarchist, so they can avoid 1st Amendment problems.

    But aren't Cons utional right inalienable and God-given?

    "United States does not consider WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to be a "journalist" or "whistleblower." He insisted that, under US law, he's to be considered a "political actor."

    His criteria for reclassifying someone from protected "journalist" to a legally vunerable "political actor": "Mr. Assange obviously has a particular political objective behind his activities, and I think that, among other things, disqualifies him as being considered a journalist," Crowley said."

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/s...ed-journalist/

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    The Cons ution doesn't apply to non-Americans, who committed no crimes, and were not in America? corporate/govt authoritarianism has arrived, inarguablyo, undeniably

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    I say we open up troll season, and shoot you silly ass.
    Welcome to politics, Nate. Newcomers get shot at.

    Good luck.

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    Rove’s hand seen in Julian Assange prosecution, sources allege

    Former Bush political strategist Karl Rove may be connected to a Swedish effort to prosecute WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, sources for several legal experts suggest.

    Rove is a longtime adviser to Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt, who recently tapped the Republican operative to aid his 2010 reelection campaign.

    Speaking to Legal Schnauzer's Robert Shuler, an unnamed source suggested that Rove is likely "playing a leading role in the effort to prosecute" Assange. The founder of the secrets website was arrested Dec. 7 in London after Sweden issued a warrant for alleged sex crimes.

    After Assange's release on bail, Guardian obtained and published leaked details of the allegations against him. A WikiLeaks source told The Australian that the leaked police reports were "a selective smear through the disclosure of material."

    And there's no coincidence that the charges against Assange originate in Sweden, Shuler's source said.

    For at least 10 years, Rove has been connected to Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik. More recently, Fredrik, who is known as "the Ronald Reagan of Europe," has contracted Rove to help with his 2010 re-election campaign.

    Rove was said to have fled to Sweden during the prosecution of former Alabama Democratic Gov. Don Siegelman, who believes his prosecution to have been politically motivated.

    "Clearly, it appears that [Rove], who claims to be of Swedish descent, feels a kinship to Sweden . . . and he has taken advantage of it several times," the source added.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/r...ulian-assange/

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    This Rove s bag knows no limits. Lex Luthor is a holy roller compared to Texas' own s bag.

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    Give it time Darrin. This wikileaks dildo might end up being one of your heroes.

    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s ongoing release of the Guantanamo Bay prison files, and large numbers of classified State Department cables, attempts to expose what he calls American corruption.



    But supporters of the George W. Bush administration’s global war on terrorism say the nearly 800 Guantanamo files show that “enhanced” interrogations of hundreds of captured operatives at secret overseas prisons and at the Cuban prison amounted to one of the most successful intelligence operations in history.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ced-interroga/

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    Court approves extradition to Sweden:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...?newsfeed=true

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    Wikileaks wins major award in Australia:

    http://www.salon.com/2011/11/27/wiki...lia/singleton/

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    If Assange had exposed Obama's Exec, Darrin and similar ilk would have cheered, or remained silent.

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    You're an idiot. Please get lost.

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    The WikiLeaks Mole

    How a teenage misfit became the keeper of Julian Assange's deepest secrets - only to betray him

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-mole-20140106



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