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Imagine if Boston had acquired TD, or if KG came to SA instead of Boston.
From the day he arrived in the NBA, Tim Duncan affected the San Antonio Spurs in a way few single players have. Arriving on a team that had mustered only 20 wins in a disastrous, injury plagued season just a year before, Tim Duncan took the Spurs on the second largest season turnaround in NBA history. From 20 wins to 56, the Spurs' turnaround is second only to Boston's, who accomplished their rebound after acquiring both Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett. Tim Duncan, as a rookie, did almost the same.
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Imagine if Boston had acquired TD, or if KG came to SA instead of Boston.
You forgot DR.Tim Duncan, as a rookie, did almost the same.
Yeah, it's easy to forget that David came back from injury, so you effectively went from a team without either TD or DR to a team with both.
Yeah, I won't lie. I didn't mean to ignore the admiral like that. I still think TD did almost as much individually as KG, Pierce and Allen together. However, you're right. Robinson was still a 20/10 guy in 98. So I didn't give him the credit he really deserved in the article.
I actually want to do a piece on Robinson next. The problem is he entered the league when I was still young and it'd require a good deal more research. Probably make a good article in the end though.
Yea because even without Duncan the spurs would have been a 50win team probably.Yeah, I won't lie. I didn't mean to ignore the admiral like that. I still think TD did almost as much individually as KG, Pierce and Allen together. However, you're right. Robinson was still a 20/10 guy in 98. So I didn't give him the credit he really deserved in the article.
Yeah. David probably could have carried that. The surrounding cast is still pretty dreadful though. The names from '98 that stand out to me are Sean Elliott, Avery Johnson, Vinny del Negro, Jaren Jackson and Will Perdue.
Johnson, Elliott and del negro were all 10 ppg guys. Jackson had 9 and Malik 3. I know the guys would have stepped up without Duncan but that would have still been a hard fifty wins.
Duncan was a serious MVP candidate his rookie year.
not too often that happens.
I remember reading an article about Duncan being really upset about Karl Malone beating him. Was really down on himself and spent the Summer training really hard to get better. I always liked that article because it helped me see how serious he was about being the best.
It's the same reason I get upset when people dismiss Duncan out of a top 10 discussion. I'm ok with you not thinking him being top 10, but to just dismiss him out of hand ignores a lot of his work.
FYI the thing in the red bikini is frightening.
people talk about Lebron being the greatest hyped up uber-rookie taken in the last 15 years etc etc...Duncan had at least as much impact immediately, was better at building a team around, won ROTY AND was close to MVP his rookie year....
in other words Duncan shat all over Lebron up to this point in their careers.
I totally agree. Duncan was one of the most extraordinary and NBA ready rookies to ever come into the league. His performance that year was phenomenal.
I dont really know, but I'm thinking when Danny.Zhu said you forgot DR, he meant that in David's rookie year, the Spurs at the time had the greatest turnaround from 21 to 56 wins.
The le of your article is off too. The subject matter was nothing more than a history review that the average Spur fan knows backwads and forwards.
I can think of at least 5 or 6 single players than meant more to their franchise than Duncan.....one of those being David. Without David, there is a high chance that the Spurs are not in San Antonio today. There is also a chance that Duncan might have left the Spurs if not for David.
I think people were referring to Lebron being the best out of highschool if I'm not mistaken. Which is true. No one dominated like that straight out of highschool..people talk about Lebron being the greatest hyped up uber-rookie taken in the last 15 years etc etc...Duncan had at least as much impact immediately, was better at building a team around, won ROTY AND was close to MVP his rookie year....
in other words Duncan shat all over Lebron up to this point in their careers.
Course Duncan was the better rookie. Timmy was playing better than DROB as a rookie.
@Blake I didn't create the le, which also happens to be the one thing I've had people consistently be upset with me over. When I submitted it to the editor, he changed it. I don't agree with it for all the reasons you list.
[QUOTE=Jason R;4811530][/ Arriving on a team that had mustered only 20 wins in a disastrous, injury plagued season just a year before, Tim Duncan took the Spurs on the second largest season turnaround in NBA history.QUOTE]
IIRC, don't the Spur's own the top 2 turnaround records? #1 turnaround, the Admiral's rookie year?
Duncan's is a game better I think, and the Celtics beat the Spurs record by something like four.
Duncan finished 5th his rookie year in 97-98.........David finished 7th that same year.
David finished 6th his rookie year in 89-90.....ahead of Hakeem who finished 7th.
Just confirmed with SI, Duncan's was a game better than DRob's and Celtics were better by six than Duncan's.
@Blake I also agree with the piece not covering new ground per say, it's a soft piece. I used to do a number of pieces on players like Pistol Pete and such. Since this was essentially an 'audition' piece I went a safe route. I want to cover some more serious parts of the game like number analysis in future pieces, but for now figured this was satisfactory.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Not only were they the worst team. They won the friggin le. That was crazy.Just confirmed with SI, Duncan's was a game better than DRob's and Celtics were better by six than Duncan's.
the celtics should have an * for that record turnaround season (2008) because their team was completely artificially manufactured. they basically got a whole new team overnight...you dont go from 20 years of mediocrity to a league-slaying championship an from one season to the next without alot of 'help'.
it was part of the 'agenda' to restore the lakers-celtics rivalry in order to push ratings following years or spurs-pistons dominance. (no coincidence that was also the year the lakers were gifted Gasol and also became le contenders ovenight...coincidence?)
I don't know about that. I do know Duncan helped DRob do almost the same in his first year. Shows how NBA ready he was.
The only reason I don't like getting into "is the NBA rigged" theories is because that ruined wrestling for me in high school. Once I realized it was all a show (largely because of the Undertaker's antics) I didn't watch anymore. I hope the NBA isn't rigged in that manner and generally don't think it is. Hopefully.
http://www.spursreport.com/forums/ca...anagement.html
Complaining (or strangely bragging) at SR about getting a thread deleted on ST, deleting MY post which somehow resulted in my banishment from a site I've posted at twice in the past 2 or 3 years, and then asking for feedback on your unsurprisingly mundane article at the same site you were criticizing.
You were a at SR, and you're still one at ST.
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