Manu Proving Once Again that He's the Best Closer in the NBA

[ezau]

Nice revisionist history there. The spurs has been tim duncan's team up to 2007. They won 4 rings as his team.
It became parkers/manu's team in 2008-2010. Owned 4-1 by the lakers in 08, owned 4-1 by the mavs in 09, and skunked by the sons in 2010.

That's what happens when manu is the best player on a team.

The better question is what happens when Kobe is the no. 1 option without an elite big man to carry him.

[DAF86]

You said you'd rather have manu over dirk. Even other spurs fan thought you were a got for saying something so stupid.

Lol manu>dirk.

I said that Manu has had a better career than Dirk and that for the Spurs to play alongside Duncan I would rather have Manu than Dirk.

I also said that I think that Manu at his best is every bit as good if not better than Dirk, but individually I have always acknowledged that Dirk's great and consistent NBA performance has been clearly superior to Manu's.

[GoodOdor]

I said that Manu has had a better career than Dirk and that for the Spurs to play alongside Duncan I would rather have Manu than Dirk.

[ezau]

Dirk's ringless ass and inability to lead his team to championship will be a knock on him forever.

[GoodOdor]

Dirk's ringless ass and inability to lead his team to championship will be a knock on him forever.

I agree.


Doesn't change the fact Dirk>>>manu.

[ezau]

I agree.


Doesn't change the fact Dirk>>>manu.

Manu can walk away next year and count the three rings in his fingers. For Dirk? I don't know about that.

While we're at it, let's not forget Manu's gold medal from the 04 Olympics.

[ALVAREZ6]

I said that Manu has had a better career than Dirk and that for the Spurs to play alongside Duncan I would rather have Manu than Dirk.

I also said that I think that Manu at his best is every bit as good if not better than Dirk, but individually I have always acknowledged that Dirk's great and consistent NBA performance has been clearly superior to Manu's.

I pretty much agree with all of this, tbh.

Manu's weakness over the course of his career is inconsistency. But when he's on one of those routs where he's playing crazily well, he's one of the best players in the league. Unfortunately, those streaks have been rare...they're not his average performance. And in my opinion, it's pretty hard to deny this. That stretch during the end of last season, he was hands down one of the top players in the league...the stretch alone resulted in Manu finishing top 10 in MVP voting.

[GoodOdor]

Manu can walk away next year and count the three rings in his fingers. For Dirk? I don't know about that.

While we're at it, let's not forget Manu's gold medal from the 04 Olympics.

Manu is basically a horry - a very good role player. He can't be compared to a number 1 like dirk. Rings are a team accomplishment, so is the Olympics.
Manu is not even a HOF without his "international contributions". Dirk is a legit HOF, without needing some B-league awards. His career s on manu's, and he is the better player by a good margin.


P.S how's the dead wife?

[BUMP]

Maybe Dirk can take some lessons from Manu on how to make a shot against the bucks with the game on the line, tbh, imho.

tbh, imho, maybe Duncan can take lessons from Dirk on how not to get shat on by a rookie PF playing for one of the worst teams in the league

[namlook]

Manu can walk away next year and count the three rings in his fingers.

But Manu was never the man for any of those rings. He was always riding someone else's coat tails, even Tony Parker outperformed him when in mattered most in the finals. Manu has also been very inconsistent in his career. He has flashes of brilliance but he's simply not an elite player.

[ALVAREZ6]

Manu is basically a horry - a very good role player. He can't be compared to a number 1 like dirk. Rings are a team accomplishment, so is the Olympics.
Manu is not even a HOF without his "international contributions". Dirk is a legit HOF, without needing some B-league awards. His career s on manu's, and he is the better player by a good margin.


P.S how's the dead wife?

It's widely believed Manu should have won finals MVP '05. Tim Duncan even acknowledged this, he knew that should have gone to Manu and had no problem admitting it. Manu's without a doubt is leading this team this year, on and off the court. And he would be the #1 on a lot of other teams in this league.

Far from a role player... Manu beat Team USA & Italy (another team that beat USA in that tournament) for a gold medal in 04 pretty much single-handedly.

[ezau]

But Manu was never the man for any of those rings. He was always riding someone else's coat tails, even Tony Parker outperformed him when in mattered most in the finals. Manu has also been very inconsistent in his career. He has flashes of brilliance but he's simply not an elite player.

It's funny how that comment came from a Laker fan knowing fully well how Kobe rode Shaq's coat tail for three rings.

[ALVAREZ6]

But Manu was never the man for any of those rings. He was always riding someone else's coat tails, even Tony Parker outperformed him when in mattered most in the finals. Manu has also been very inconsistent in his career. He has flashes of brilliance but he's simply not an elite player. He disappears way too much.

You are incorrect.

Manu was the difference in the 2005 playoffs. He was the true finals MVP.

[ALVAREZ6]

It's funny how that comment came from a Laker fan knowing fully well how Kobe rode Shaq's coat tail for three rings.

And then Pau's for 2 more

[GoodOdor]

It's widely believed Manu should have won finals MVP '05. Tim Duncan even acknowledged this, he knew that should have gone to Manu and had no problem admitting it. Manu's without a doubt is leading this team this year, on and off the court. And he would be the #1 on a lot of other teams in this league.

Far from a role player... Manu beat Team USA & Italy (another team that beat USA in that tournament) for a gold medal in 04 pretty much single-handedly.

Congratz on manu's "should have been finals mvp 05" trophy.

[namlook]

And then Pau's for 2 more

The Pau that was 0 for 12 in the playoffs before he met Kobe? Yeah...uh huh.

[DAF86]

Manu is basically a horry - a very good role player. He can't be compared to a number 1 like dirk. Rings are a team accomplishment, so is the Olympics.
Manu is not even a HOF without his "international contributions". Dirk is a legit HOF, without needing some B-league awards. His career s on manu's, and he is the better player by a good margin.


P.S how's the dead wife?

And you complain about my BB takes?

[ezau]

Manu is basically a horry - a very good role player. He can't be compared to a number 1 like dirk. Rings are a team accomplishment, so is the Olympics.
Manu is not even a HOF without his "international contributions". Dirk is a legit HOF, without needing some B-league awards. His career s on manu's, and he is the better player by a good margin.


P.S how's the dead wife?

I had to stop when you had to say that Dirk is a HOF. When a player has choked multiple times in the playoffs in his entire career, I don't think that player deserves to be mentioned in the HOF class.

To refresh your memory, Dirk did:

choke in 06
choke in 07
and get ass- ed by the Spurs in 2010

Manu on the other hand, delivers when it counts and he was surely the best player for the Spurs in the 2005 playoffs outside of a guy named Duncan.

Manu is a winner and that's something Dirk has been trying to accomplish his entire career.

How's Uncle Adolf?

[GoodOdor]

And you complain about my BB takes?

Manu>dirk, great in player

Almost finals mvp trophy in 05

[ALVAREZ6]

The Pau that was 0 for 12 in the playoffs before he met Kobe? Yeah...uh huh.

lol are you serious? Because Pau never played alongside another legend, like Kobe or Shaq... he played on the Memphis Grizzlies!!!!!!LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO roflcopter

[namlook]

You are incorrect.

Manu was the difference in the 2005 playoffs. He was the true finals MVP.

Manu is a one-time all star role player and nothing more.

[DAF86]

Manu=Spot up shooter

[ezau]

Manu>dirk, great in player

Almost finals mvp trophy in 05

Oh yeah, Dirk got the 06 Finals MVP award, right? Hey wait a minute....

[namlook]

lol are you serious? Because Pau never played alongside another legend, like Kobe or Shaq... he played on the Memphis Grizzlies!!!!!!LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO roflcopter

Oh so now Kobe is a legend?

[DAF86]

Manu is a one-time all star role player and nothing more.

Soon to be two-time all star, tbh, imho, fwiw.