I smell skunkYou are right. We couldn't possibly beat any of those teams when it matters. Damn.
Draft pick--do your own homework.Who the is James Anderson and what the can he do to help the Sp*rs dethrone the champs?
You said we had our full roster and 100% healthy. You were mistaken.
You honestly think Gary freaking Neal was supposed to play such a big role right off the bat?
James Anderson. He's averaging 7.0 a game and is already proven to be a decent defender. He was playing better than Steve Blake and is averaging one less point than Matt Barnes, the two guys you Laker s are jerking off over acquiring.Who the is James Anderson and what the can he do to help the Sp*rs dethrone the champs?
He'd get as many minutes as Ebanks is getting (who is a better defender than him hands down) if he were a Laker. And quit bragging about stats. 75-80% of the shots go to Kobe, Pau, Bynum and LO anyways. The fact that Steve Blake, Barnes, and Brown are not scoring in binges is by design. It's called pecking order. But they are giving us about 23 ppg so don't get it twisted. Our bench hasn't performed like that during the Shaq/Kobe era and they still 3 peated. Remember when the Lakers were two deep and most other foes were too deep? This team is more than just Kobe/Pau...so guess what's gone happen this year?
He'd get as many minutes as Ebanks (a better defender than him hands down) if he were a Laker. And quit bragging about stats. 75-80% of the shots go to Kobe, Pau, Bynum and LO anyways. The fact that Steve Blake, Barnes, and Brown are not scoring in binges is by design. It's called pecking order. But they are giving us about 23 ppg so don't get it twisted. Our bench hasn't performed like that during the Shaq/Kobe era and they still 3 peated. Remember when the Lakers were two deep and most other foes were too deep? This team is more than just Kobe/Pau...so guess what's gone happen this year?
The funny part about what you said is that it precisely explains why Tim Duncan's scoring numbers are down, and yet many Lakers fans tend to attribute it mostly to declining skill.
Duncan's numbers aren't down because of minutes, they are down because of decreased field goal attempts, attempts that - by design - are going to Ginobili and Parker now.
That is true, kind of. Kobe has been in the league longer than TD has. He has more minutes and games played than TD. He's in his 15th year. Why are the Lakers not holding him back? Why is Kobe still our 1st option? I'll tell you why. Kobe's skills are not declining. He's not the athletic freak he used to be, but is still the best in the game because he figured out how to play below the rim and still yield the same results. He dunks every 25 games or so just for s and giggles - but he still has some hops left.
Question: How many players in NBA history can be argued for as the best in the game...in their 15th year? MJ? Bird? Nope and nope.
Don't compare TD to Kobe. He is the GOAT of PFs - let's leave it at that. Deal?
I don't know what you're trying to say there.Question: How many players in NBA history can be argued for as the best in the game...in their 15th year? MJ? Bird? Nope and nope.
Don't compare TD to Kobe. He is the GOAT of PFs - let's leave it at that. Deal?
There's no argument that Kobe is the best in the game. Lebron and Wade are clearly superior players. And it's been this way since 08. Kobe's been on the best team, but he's not the best player.That is true, kind of. Kobe has been in the league longer than TD has. He has more minutes and games played than TD. He's in his 15th year. Why are the Lakers not holding him back? Why is Kobe still our 1st option? I'll tell you why. Kobe's skills are not declining. He's not the athletic freak he used to be, but is still the best in the game because he figured out how to play below the rim and still yield the same results. He dunks every 25 games or so just for s and giggles - but he still has some hops left.
Question: How many players in NBA history can be argued for as the best in the game...in their 15th year? MJ? Bird? Nope and nope.
Don't compare TD to Kobe. He is the GOAT of PFs - let's leave it at that. Deal?
Big men are more injury prone than guards, it has to do with being 7ft and all, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that, with the kind of mental re ation you've been exhibiting all night.
And you're right, we shouldn't compare Kobe to TD. TD has been a leader on 4 le teams while 6-24 has been a leader on 2 le teams.
He said Laker fans say TD's numbers are down due to his declining numbers. Kobe's numbers are down too, but that is due to the fact that he has a legit supporting cast. He went on to seemingly compare Kobe to TD. Then I threw out the fact that Kobe is declining athletically but figured out a way to remain dominant. TD is still good, but not as good as you guys believe he is. Certainly not good enough to anchor and be a major offensive threat. He'll have to do both for you guys to have a chance. Midget Blair, 3pt Bonner, and over the hill Dice ain't gone cut it against the likes of Big Drew, Pau, LO and now we have a bonus 12 fouls to throw at TD by the likes of old men Ratliff and Joe Smith.
I'm talking about the part I quoted.
I guess Kobe had nothing to do with the 1st 3. Shaq did it all by himself.Are you talking stats again? The game is on the line. You are down by 2 points with less than 5 seconds to go. Who do you want shooting? Kobe, Wade, or Bron? Exactly. Just because they can dunk and make BSPN highlights don't make them the best. Look at Melo tonight. He's better than Manu, but where was his hoops IQ on that charge? They may be better physically than Kobe is but to say they are better? That's a joke. D12 is physically superior to Pau. Guess who people think is the best big man in the game? It sure ain't D12.
Kareem played 20 years. So did Parish. Malone almost did. I'm sure Ewing played at least 15. Dream too. And Kareem was at least 33 or older during Showtime. Didn't slow him down much did it?Big men are more injury prone than guards, it has to do with being 7ft and all, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that, with the kind of mental re ation you've been exhibiting all night.
And you're right, we shouldn't compare Kobe to TD. TD has been a leader on 4 le teams while 6-24 has been a leader on 2 le teams.There is a reason why you guys went out and got Bruce Lee Bowen. It surely wasn't because of Shaq. Kobe damn near had a 50 point playoff game in the Alamo Dome IIRC. You haters have a short selective memory.
BTW, it was a clear charge, just as it wasn't a travel in the game against the Bucks. People just too anxious to see a Spurs loss, imho.
That's how you win games. Foul the out of the opposing team and put them on the line or put yourself in the penalty.
Ratliff and Joe Smith will only see playoff minutes in garbage time.
You are right on all 3 accounts. Guilty as charged (no pun intended).
I thought the same thing about PJ Brown and Robert Horry. Stranger things have happened...paving the way to a championship. Wouldn't you say?
My point is that TD is not as bad as you guys think he is right now (not necessarily you specifically, but Lakers fans in general). He's not a 13/10 player as a 1st option.
Do most spurs fans think he's a legit/consistent 20/10 as a first option? No. But he's not 13/10 as a first option, either. He's somewhere in between (and closer to 20/10 than 13/10, I'd say). That was my point. If we need him to be the first option (which has happened a couple of times when Parker and/or Ginobili struggle offensively) he's more than capable of stepping up. Tonight was a terrific example of that. He also had a monstrous game to start the season (25/12/couple of blocks/assists/steals as well).
Kobe is one of my favorite non-Spurs players. Trust me, you don't have to rationalize his stats to me. I argued in the all time Kobe thread that Jordan shouldn't be untouchable when it comes to determining if it's possible for Kobe to one day surpass him.
Of course Kobe contributed. He just wasn't the leader. Great second option, though.I guess Kobe had nothing to do with the 1st 3. Shaq did it all by himself.
Quote Kobe: "I'm tired of being a sidekick."
And as for your comparison of Duncan's longevity to other great big men, let's compare.
Robert Parish at age 34: 14 and 8 in 31 minutes per game.
Kevin McHale at age 34: 14 and 6 in 25 minutes per game.
Shaq at age 34: 17 and 7 in 28 minutes.
Charles Barkley at age 34 (not a 7 footer, but was a PF): 15 and 11 in 33 min.
Duncan at age 34: 14 and 9.5 in 28 minutes.
Now of course I omitted Malone and Kareem, but they are anomalies, and to expect every big to have the kind of long, productive career as they did is unrealistic.
Please try to know what you're talking about before hitting submit. Thanks.
lol "we"
Are you talking about Kobe being in the conversation as being the best player in the game despite being in his 15th year? What part about that question don't you understand? TD is in his 14th year and he is nowhere in the conversation. Kobe is in his 15th and is still as polarizing as ever. TD ain't even the best PF in the game no more, nor is he the best player on his own team. That's no diss to him - I got mad respect for TD. I saw you compare seemingly similar situations between the two players. I decided to debunk your theory.
Ok... They are about to 3peat. Is that better?
I missread it, that's why I didn't understand it
To be fair, none of those guys got to the league at age 18 like Kobe did.
Beign the undisputed best player at age 35 is more of a feat.
Lol. I just compared Duncan to Shaq and Barkley, dumbass. Duncan's stats are virtually the same.
Let's move on to Hakeem.
14th season: 16ppg, 9.8 in 34.7 min.
Moses at 34: 19 and 10 in in 33.8.
Yeah, Duncan's stats are totally on.
And TD is my favorite non-Laker. But, even Lamar Odom is giving us 15/10 as a 3rd option, so TD's 15/10 is canceled out and won't be enough for you guys to be a serious threat. That's no knock on TD. Especially when LO goes to the bench and matches up with 6'6" Blair. Remember, the Lakers true strength is their size/length. Unless TD can summon his 2005 form, you guys are in trouble.Agreed.
Don't use tonight's game as a "terrific example" because the first time the Thuggets play good low post defense will be the 1st. Besides, there was no Birdman or K-Mart out there to make him work for his points.Do most spurs fans think he's a legit/consistent 20/10 as a first option? No. But he's not 13/10 as a first option, either. He's somewhere in between (and closer to 20/10 than 13/10, I'd say). That was my point. If we need him to be the first option (which has happened a couple of times when Parker and/or Ginobili struggle offensively) he's more than capable of stepping up. Tonight was a terrific example of that. He also had a monstrous game to start the season (25/12/couple of blocks/assists/steals as well).
Kobe is one of my favorite non-Spurs players. Trust me, you don't have to rationalize his stats to me. I argued in the all time Kobe thread that Jordan shouldn't be untouchable when it comes to determining if it's possible for Kobe to one day surpass him.
Maybe not totally on. But 15/10 won't get the Sp*rs more than 1 win against the champs in a playoff series. He better raise the bar.Lol. I just compared Duncan to Shaq and Barkley, dumbass. Duncan's stats are virtually the same.
Let's move on to Hakeem.
14th season: 16ppg, 9.8 in 34.7 min.
Moses at 34: 19 and 10 in in 33.8.
Yeah, Duncan's stats are totally on.
I know. I know.
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