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    Then you're a lemming lib .
    He is very close to a libertarian. You are a joke who claims to be a libertarian.

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    Parker, are you aware that many places in the US light off fireworks on New Years?

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    He is very close to a libertarian. You are a joke who claims to be a libertarian.
    He's a ing joke anyway.

    As I said before, libertarians can be anywhere from left to right ideology. They are simply anti-authoritarian. He is to the loony left of the scale, and contrails form at -40 degrees. Not -70. That's a big difference.

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    i believe kucinich
    Kucinich backed away from it. Didn't you catch that?

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    You are a joke who claims to be a libertarian.
    Turn it around on yourself, tough guy.

    You are a joke who claims to be libertarian, but really you just parrot whatever fringy thing you recently linked to from Infowars. Big difference.

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    Let them see what is on the end of that long newspaper spoon.

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    Parker, are you aware that many places in the US light off fireworks on New Years?


    lol 4th of July in January

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    Turn it around on yourself, tough guy.

    You are a joke who claims to be libertarian, but really you just parrot whatever fringy thing you recently linked to from Infowars. Big difference.

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    As long as you wannabee Whottts don't make any posts that the earth is 4 billion years old,Man evolved form an ape,WTC7 fell due to some small fires,or NASA doesn't lie to the public your safe in my book.


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    As long as you wannabee Whottts don't make any posts that the earth is 4 billion years old,Man evolved form an ape,WTC7 fell due to some small fires,or NASA doesn't lie to the public your safe in my book.

    safe from what?

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    Moss is Da Sauce! mouse's Avatar
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    safe from what?
    From being humiliated and embarrassed from my vast knowledge in these matters and expert debating skills I humbly posses.
    But you should know that by now with the multiple times I have schooled you in the past.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487
    Last edited by mouse; 12-20-2010 at 05:43 PM.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    I don't argue with crazy people. I just tell them to STFU. Right, Mouse?

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    I don't argue with crazy people. I just tell them to STFU. Right, Mouse?
    Why argue when you can just debate? I'm sure many people in our world from Eisenstein to Steve Jobs was called crazy at one time or another.


    Pulling out the mental card is a cop out I rather you just say "I'm bias and only debate with people I like" It would make more sense.


    I on the other hand don't judge people by their online postings I try and treat everyone the same when I am educating them regardless how much of an ass they are.
    The truth is the mentality level in this forum is sub par for my taste and is why I try and avoid conversations with the brain dead.

    In a nuts this forum is beneath me and doesn't really appreciate my talents.

    In my humble opinion.

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    From being humiliated and embarrassed from my vast knowledge in these matters and expert debating skills I humbly posses.
    But you should know that by now with the multiple times I have schooled you in the past.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487
    anyone passing one of your schoolings automatically fails by definition.

    Linking an example to such failure was unnecessary since the entire messageboard world knows this to be true.

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    Turn it around on yourself, tough guy.

    You are a joke who claims to be libertarian, but really you just parrot whatever fringy thing you recently linked to from Infowars. Big difference.
    Pretty far off the mark. I don't bother with mainstream reporting anymore you guys get that through the MSM.

    I think about 40-60% of the stuff at infowars is folks hawking something or other...I dont bother with about slow kill programs, about Obama as CIA, etc.

    However, they led the way on the Fed and on debunking the two party paradigm. They led the way on the TSA and they keep trying to rally support for true change in those areas.

    So I dont see a problem posting the , no one else has the balls, and they are leading the way on things outside of MSM. So whats your problem with that?

    And as for like fluoride, take a good look at any libertarian candidate, and many local party pages and you will see at at the top.

    On Kucinich: And where did Kucinich back off his statements?

    On WC's 4th of July debacle: he mispoke, as he is known to do. He couldnt even immediately recover, and I dont know if he wouldve without LnG pointing him towards New Years (which was obvious even to me).

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    So I dont see a problem posting the , no one else has the balls, and they are leading the way on things outside of MSM. So whats your problem with that?
    nothing at all wrong with posting this .

    defending this after 14 pages though is ridiculous.

    Thus the ridicule.

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    nothing at all wrong with posting this .

    defending this after 14 pages though is ridiculous.

    Thus the ridicule.
    Should 12 pages be the new limit?

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    Should 12 pages be the new limit?
    ridicule has no real limits. It depends on the situation.

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    ridicule has no real limits. It depends on the situation.
    I agree.

    If you post like "chem-trails" you deserve to have your nose rubbed in it endlessly, being given the moniker "chem-trail boy" to remind everybody that you believe stupid and have poor standards of evidence.
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    Kucinich recently told the Columbus Alive newspaper (Jan. 24, 2002) that despite official denials, as head of the Armed Services oversight committee he is well acquainted with chemtrail projects. “The truth is there’s an entire program in the Department of Defense, ‘Vision for 2020,’ that’s developing these weapons,” Kucinich told reporter Bob Fitrakis.
    as i said they reported it.
    Source link to original article?

    The only person saying that Dennis Kucinich was referring to "chemtrails" when he was talking about "these weapons" is Mr. Thomas.

    I was completely unable to locate the original article to determine the original context of the quote.

    For all I know "these weapons" might have been Mr. Kucinich talking about arrows made from unicorn horns left over after the canning of their meat.

    I will say it again for emphasis:

    Source link to original Columbus Alive article?
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    Kucinich knew perfectly well that the word "extraterrestrial weapons" in the bills original wording meant space alien technology, because the people who actually wrote the original bill's language meant it in that manner.
    if you stretch the intent enough, you get the conclusion you want. But you cant reach that conclusion [that Kucinich meant "extraterrestrial weapsons" to mean "space alien technology"] in good faith unless you impute it to Kucinich too. Is that what your saying?
    Actually that is what *you* are saying.

    #3. If you think that Kucinich didnt know thet language was in the bill, regardless of who wrote it, you are on crack. And that is his effective endorsement of the language, which amounts to the same thing as him drafting it for all intents and purposes. Nothing to see here.



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    By the by, the film in the OP is debunked here:
    http://contrailscience.com/what-in-t...they-spraying/

    That website seems to be the best clearinghouse for information. Here is an excerpt from the section on this specific house bill:

    http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-...s-and-hr-2977/


    Kucinich’s motivations are perhaps revealed by his speech to the house on May 18th, 2005, introducing a newer version of the bill:

    “What has happened to our country? Why are we projecting fear and paranoia to such heights? Have we so lost our way and our faith that we are prepared to transform the heavens into ? If the kingdom and the will of God is to be done on earth as it is in heaven, what is to happen when the United States takes nuclear fire up to the gates of heaven?
    “Such an offense against humanity could bring the wrath of God upon this nation.”

    So Kucinich thinks that space based weapons will offend God, since space is close to heaven, and if you put nuclear weapons near heaven then God will be offended and bring his wrath against us.

    If you actually ARE a conspiracy theorist, then all this will come as little surprise to you. You will already believe the government is covering up technology based on crashed UFOs. Yet HR2977 is constantly being mentioned solely to make the case that “chemtrails” are something the government is aware of. The reality is that they were simply given a passing mention in bill written by new-age UFO conspiracy theorists and sponsored by an eccentric politician, all of who believe in things that are far more unusual than “chemtrails”. [emphasis mine-RG]

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    What exactly did the DoD say Parker?
    read the thread. WC did the research. Then he couldn't interpret his findings, but what he found was important nonetheless.
    Here we have a fun exchange, in which Mr. Parker is asked to say exactly what the DOD said.

    Mr. Parker implies rather strongly that Kucinich was told to shut up by the DOD, and not mention chemtrails in the bill.

    Kucinich tried to stop the activity. DOD nipped that in the bud. Thats all I need to know WC.
    it doesnt mention chemtrails cuz the word was redacted after DOD told Kucinich that refraining from chemtrail activity was not an option. The new bill left out any mention. Follow?
    On what exactly does it seem Mr. Parker has made this fairly specific claim?

    What did Wild Corbra find?

    4/19/2002:
    Unfavorable Executive Comment [about the bill in general] Received from DOD.
    "unfavorable comment"

    The question remains unanswered by Mr. Parker.

    What *exactly* did the DOD say about the mention of "chemtrails" in the initial draft of the bill, Parker?

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    What did Wild Corbra find?
    I found that there were other things than Chem Trails that could have been unfavorable, and almost proof positive since Chem Trails weren't mentioned in the second bull, yet had the same problems passing.

    Parker... Do you read what you want between imaginary lines?

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    Lots of upper level cold air today with a decent amount of humidity and what do you get? LOTS AND LOTS OF CHEMTRAILS!

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