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lol bringing up Tim in a thread about Phil Jackson
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Lngrr is right. The Bulls gave him credibility took him in as a CBA success and promoted him to the big job. But his personality came out ...maybe he was always an arrogant prick did not come out until he came to the Lakers. With the Bulls I always thought he was a hippy whiner that manipulated the refs because the Pistons and Knicks beat up on his finesses guys (sound familiar?) ...but in L.A. his ego knows no bounds ...and I love it .. . but I think he has made way more admirers and pissed off more people in L.A.
The second part of the OP's question was the star part ...and of course MJ is more "iconic" than Kobe ...BUT who has he had to coach more? don't get me wrong PJ writes how hard it was to get MJ's buy-in but Just dealing with the shaq/Kobe dynamic and the circus atmosphere ...alone links him to the lakers ...IMHO
lol bringing up Tim in a thread about Phil Jackson
Both. After he coached the Bulls and won 6 NBA championships he became head coach of the Lakers and has now won 5 NBA championships with that franchise. It's really kind of hard to just think of him as the Bulls coach still after all that success with the Lakers. When I think of Phil and coaching I see him as both Lakers/Bulls coach with MJ and Kobe.
Crazy that Kobe needed Bynum of all people to win 2 rings
That, Sir, is called insecurity
I identify Phil Jackson more as the Bulls coach, but it's not like we don't associate him with the Lakers obviously. And since that's where he's at and where he's had his most recent success, it's easy for some especially younger people who weren't following the NBA in the 90s to identify him more with the Lakers. But the Bulls is where he made his mark and probably the reason he's with the Lakers.
I will say this though, I think he's done a better coaching job in his tenure with the Lakers than with the Bulls. When he started winning in Chicago, Doug Collins had already laid down plenty of the groundwork and the best compe ion in the Lakers, Celtics, and Pistons got old at just the right time when Jackson arrived to take over. With the Lakers, I think Phil really did have to do a lot of work to get that team to win les and then again after Shaq left. And at the very least, he had to contend with the Spurs over this past decade to help the Lakers win.
He's the Bulls coach first, but he's probably done his best work with the Lakers.
Of course his best work came with the Lakers...he turned Kobe from a guy who airballs 4 shots in the 4th quarter and overtime in the playoffs, to a top 10 guard of all time..
Spurs fans remember him as the Bulls coach cuz they want to forget about the times he owned the Spurs as the Lakers coach.
How long left on that avatar? Just 2 more days?
Has your son forgotten about it yet?
i got till next monday.
How long left on that avatar? Just 2 more days?
Has your son forgotten about it yet?
I havent been going on Spurstalk from home since he saw naked santa.
I got a Spurs/Lakers sig bet with Kamakzi, lets hope he doesnt use this signature again if i lose. LOL!
Winning always looks good. It doesn't matter, Bulls or Lakers, Phil is a renaissance man.
I'm interested in seeing Hitman's take on this topic. For me, I still remember him as a Bulls coach moreso than Lakers despite him being in LA longer. He's been to more Finals as a Lakers coach but would have won at least one more with the Bulls had MJ not quit to play baseball. I'm glad their dynasty broke up because he came to LA and taught Shaq/Kobe how to win just like he did with MJ/Pippen. Neither of these 4 hall of famers have done * without PJ - and that's saying something about PJ's ability to coach.
*Sans the Mavs choke job/DWhistle's perfect FTA stroke.
tbh, this is a gr8 post bro, imo
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A lot of that around here.
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