Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastr

[Wild Cobra]

Not really. I see Chump trying to bully the board without even addressing the issue at hand, and I point out whats going on. Not that hard to fathom.

I really dislike the way Chump does things, but he addresses this topic pretty good. I have the head on IGNORE because of his style, but sometimes look at the "view post" option, and see his words when you quote him.

Its a pretty typical occurence around these parts. If you say something that someone else finds doesnt fit in their perception of the order of things, they think its enough to sweep it aside with brute ridicule rather than logic and debate.

True, but it's a good way to vent here, rather than with the people we love.

Chump is smarter than he shows here. He just refuses to "stoop" low enough to engage this issue (nanosupernachograndethermite ).

LOL...

He is smart, and a good manipulator. Still, he's right on this topic.

[ChumpDumper]

the info about how the thermite may have been placed on those levels
(cuz we just dont-fuggin-know if it was, cuz the official version never-fuggin-considered thermite at all (NEVER TESTED, NEVER ADDRESSED, NEVER QUESTIONED BY) (EVEN THOUGH NIST HAS EXPERTS ON THE TOPIC WORKING FOR THEM, WHO KNEW IT WAS A POSSIBILITY, AND KNEW HOW TO RULE IT OUT VERY EASILY)...is in the vids.

It is not a possibility. It never was. That's why they didn't waste time on it. It doesn't even withstand the simple question of placement you keep avoiding.

Stop parrotting your anti-truther blog sources long enough to teach yourself something about peer review process, and you'll realize your source and you are ignorant....

I didn't read any blog to want to know who these peers are. These loons and their history of lying makes it imperative that they be more open than any usual peer review process that isn't suspect.

For example, they must prove they didn't do this -- from your link:

Typically referees are not selected from among the authors' close colleagues, students, or friends. Referees are supposed to inform the editor of any conflict of interests that might arise.

Considering the only people who take seriously the work of these loons are other loons, it is quite fair to ask if, in fact, loons were reviewing the work of these loons.

By the same ignorant bloggers noted above? Which you ignorantly parroted? Check yoursources Chump.

No need; I checked yours.

Ive answered that. The artical answers that. The scientists answer that. Sounds like you are unaware of the substance of the theory. That you claim is completely without merit. You sound biased. Along with ignorant.

Did you answer that? Give me a link to your answer.

While I admit I found this funny, your misuse of the terminology again makes you sound ignorant...here. Have at some knowledge.

Already known.

There is a theory. Its in this thread. Your welcome in advance.

Give me a link to your theory that includes all the conspiracies you believe.

However: Unlike you I am not going to mindlessly parrot the , to provide you with ammo. As you did for me. Thanks, btw.

Your consistent cowardly dodging of this simple question is all the ammo I need. Thanks.

Two options here:
1. Sounds like you have unanswered questions that were not dealt with in the official report. Sounds like you need more info. The kind that warrants further investigation.
-OR-
2. There is a theory. Its in this thread. Your welcome in advance.

Option 3: There is no theory. You won't give one because you are afraid it will be picked apart rather quickly by me or someone else here.

Your fear is quite justified. All the other truthers share your fear.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump, one more thing.

I understand your skepticism. What I despise is your unconditional skepticism-till-my-dying-breath.

Sorry pal, I simply know a lot more about this than you do, mainly because of people like you trying to spread misinformation and outright lies. Some of it sounded realistic at first, so I looked some stuff up. It all turned out to be a huge pile of . The people who make this up survive off the gullibility and unhinged biases of people such as yourself.

And the reason is something you need to think about.

Here it is (Im gonna break it down for you so its clear):
1. If there is any rogue component acting within our government to carry out a rogue agenda contrary to the interests of the public...

2.Then, your bias and the parallel bias in MSM (that you emulate), along with the automatic ridicule for anyone with questions about 9/11...

3. ...lends itself to an environment that would allow that component to operate without interference.

4. And that approach runs counter to justice and transparency, and organized society. When you and people like you put a price on questiong authority, you do your country a disservice.

Think about that awhile, smart guy.

Don't have to think about it.

It was a pretty stupid. I'll consider an alternative theory when someone actually comes up with one. All you did was restate your bias against things like reason and common sense in an attempt to be an iconoclast of some sort. You're a hero in your own mind because you want to be, as are most of the loons you are worshiping without a single critical thought. Think about that for awhile.

[Wild Cobra]

It is not a possibility. It never was. That's why they didn't waste time on it. It doesn't even withstand the simple question of placement you keep avoiding.

No . That's why I mentioned Asgard beaming technology. How else could anyone get enough in, unnoticed, to do such damage!

[Parker2112]

Sorry pal, I simply know a lot more about this than you do, mainly because of people like you trying to spread misinformation and outright lies. Some of it sounded realistic at first, so I looked some stuff up. It all turned out to be a huge pile of . The people who make this up survive off the gullibility and unhinged biases of people such as yourself.

Don't have to think about it.

It was a pretty stupid. I'll consider an alternative theory when someone actually comes up with one. All you did was restate your bias against things like reason and common sense in an attempt to be an iconoclast of some sort. You're a hero in your own mind because you want to be, as are most of the loons you are worshiping without a single critical thought. Think about that for awhile.

Im not a hero. But I cant stand the segment of America that thinks its actually patriotic to shout down those with unpopular views. At least I cant do it silently.

I think it leaves us open to the criminal element that would use the govt for personal gain. Whether thats city council or state legislators or corrupt members of the executive branch that steer us to war.

I think folks need to understand it is this criminal element that is suspect, not the entire govt. Maybe then they would stop trying to shout down the "loonies."

You yourself said the ridicule was present from day one. You contradict yourself.

Those of your ilk have been hard at their insidious brand of patriotism since moment one, trying to exhalt each and every govt official beyond reproach. If that wasnt you then forgive me. But I dont bare the ridicule for minority beliefs as easily as you seem to believe they should be stamped out. bub.

[Parker2112]

the theory/hypothesis: The tenant on those floors (insurance firm) had ties to the Bush admin (GWB's cuz was a ceo or somesuch ) and had the support columns on those floors retreated with "fire re ant" (actually thermite) the months prior to the attacks.

Yeah, sounds pretty unlikely. But you asked for it. I dont buy it. But Im not the one who needs a to z to be permitted to ask questions.

[ChumpDumper]

Im not a hero. But I cant stand the segment of America that thinks its actually patriotic to shout down those with unpopular views. At least I cant do it silently.

I think it leaves us open to the criminal element that would use the govt for personal gain. Whether thats city council or state legislators or corrupt members of the executive branch that steer us to war.

I think folks need to understand it is this criminal element that is suspect, not the entire govt. Maybe then they would stop trying to shout down the "loonies."

You yourself said the ridicule was present from day one. You contradict yourself.

Those of your ilk have been hard at their insidious brand of patriotism since moment one, trying to exhalt each and every govt official beyond reproach. If that wasnt you then forgive me. But I dont bare the ridicule for minority beliefs as easily as you seem to believe they should be stamped out. bub.

The ridicule was there from day one because the loons were ridiculous from day one.

the theory/hypothesis: The tenant on those floors (insurance firm) had ties to the Bush admin (GWB's cuz was a ceo or somesuch ) and had the support columns on those floors retreated with "fire re ant" (actually thermite) the months prior to the attacks.

Yeah, sounds pretty unlikely. But you asked for it. I dont buy it. But Im not the one who needs a to z to be permitted to ask questions.

Oh man, that's a doozy.

And you don't even believe it.

Seriously, they claim one insurance company leased multiple floors in both towers?

And thermite was sprayed onto columns?



Why are we here again?

[Parker2112]

The ridicule was there from day one because the loons were ridiculous from day one.



Oh man, that's a doozy.

And you don't even believe it.

Seriously, they claim one insurance company leased multiple floors in both towers?

And thermite was sprayed onto columns?



Why are we here again?

You sound like a kid who finally got into the cookie jar.

Glad I could send that slow pitch your way.

HOWEVER...I think the MIC is capable of doing whatever the they want. They have more resources than anyone on the fuggin globe, they have more tech than anyone on the globe, they have more know-how than any other aspect of our govt, and we dont have a ing clue what they are capable of because they dont have to reveal a damn thing they do.

Not only that, but we know the MIC is prone to division and factions from within. So the rise of a rogue group isnt really that far fetched. And their ability to conceal their actions is totally fathomable.

And if you think the ST roundtable can plot and scheme like the MIC you are as naive as you want to be.

And I will add this: A public that is confused and uninformed is the easiest to control. And we absolutely fit that bill.

Add to that:
1) the MSM company loyalty,
2) the ridicule factor that gets propogated by influential public figures and govt officials,
3) the insistance within the Bush admin and beyond that the matter is closed at all costs,
4) the first hand accounts that dont jibe with the official line, and
5) the facts that defy common sense/gut sense/the "smell test,"

and I say the whole scenario is too sketchy to be recorded as we currently claim to understand it.

[ChumpDumper]

You sound like a kid who finally got into the cookie jar.

Glad I could send that slow pitch your way.

HOWEVER...I think the MIC is capable of doing whatever the they want. They have more resources than anyone on the fuggin globe, they have more tech than anyone on the globe, they have more know-how than any other aspect of our govt, and we dont have a ing clue what they are capable of because they dont have to reveal a damn thing they do.

Not only that, but we know the MIC is prone to division and factions from within. So the rise of a rogue group isnt really that far fetched. And their ability to conceal their actions is totally fathomable.

And if you think the ST roundtable can plot and scheme like the MIC you are as naive as you want to be.

And I will add this: A public that is confused and uninformed is the easiest to control. And we absolutely fit that bill.

Add to that:
1) the MSM company loyalty,
2) the ridicule factor that gets propogated by influential public figures and govt officials,
3) the insistance within the Bush admin and beyond that the matter is closed at all costs,
4) the first hand accounts that dont jibe with the official line, and
5) the facts that defy common sense/gut sense/the "smell test,"

and I say the whole scenario is too sketchy to be recorded as we currently claim to understand it.

Now you are saying that conspiracy theories must be unbelievable to be believed.

How convenient for you.

The task for "truthers" is a simple one.

Come up with a theory that makes sense and is more compelling than the generally accepted theory.

Then prove it.

So far, no one even has a theory.

I am neither confused nor uninformed. I looked at the best truthers had to offer and found it profoundly lacking. In fact, I found most of them to be liars. If you dig even the slightest bit deeper, you will find the same -- but I don't expect most to do any digging.

[Parker2112]

Now you are saying that conspiracy theories must be unbelievable to be believed.

How convenient for you.

The task for "truthers" is a simple one.

Come up with a theory that makes sense and is more compelling than the generally accepted theory.

Then prove it.

So far, no one even has a theory.

I am neither confused nor uninformed. I looked at the best truthers had to offer and found it profoundly lacking. In fact, I found most of them to be liars. If you dig even the slightest bit deeper, you will find the same -- but I don't expect most to do any digging.

So the Journal publishing this paper and the paper itself and the Danish science guy are all bold faced lying/lies/liars?

[ChumpDumper]

So the Journal publishing this paper and the paper itself and the Danish science guy are all bold faced lying/lies/liars?

I would say the journal will publish just about anything that people pay to put in it, and Danish science guy's bias was laid bare when he said that it was clear to his group of loons that explosives and incendiary devices were used in the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center before they even started examining dust samples.

It's so bad, you can't even call it science anymore.

[Winehole23]

They're liars. No need to dance around it, but it seems to be somebody's occupation.

Some posters like to dance around lies.

[Winehole23]

(look at me dance)

[Winehole23]

[Nbadan]

Welcome back Winehole....I think all this talk of termite is a distraction

[Winehole23]

Termite swarming season? Seems like the store never closes.

[Nbadan]

Seriously, in the end, does it really matter? There is a bigger story here

[Winehole23]

Beg pardon. What, please?

[ChumpDumper]

Death by thermite was dreamed up by truthers when it was pointed out to them that there were no audible explosions at the initiations of any of the building collapses.

The neat thing about this "peer reviewed" thermite paper is that it debunks itself with its own data. The "scientists" measured the energy release per gram of material in four samples. All four samples produced a significantly different amount of energy -- which makes no sense if one is trying to prove a single thermetic compound is being used. Even more damning is the fact that two of the samples produced energy in excess of the theoretical maximum for thermite that they list in their paper. They try to pass it off as some kind of superthermite(!) (their word, not mine) with some kind of organic material in it that makes it explosive (their word). That, of course, destroys the entire idea of using a silent incendiary to demolish he building.

The funny thing is, the organic components of paint could easily release the amount of energy they measured.

Paint and rust.

All this stuff has been thoroughly taken apart by people much smarter than any of us. All one has to do is search for it. And yes, I am pretty much parroting what they have already said.

[Parker2112]

I would say the journal will publish just about anything that people pay to put in it, and Danish science guy's bias was laid bare when he said that it was clear to his group of loons that explosives and incendiary devices were used in the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center before they even started examining dust samples.

It's so bad, you can't even call it science anymore.

You should have said this pages ago. Ill check it out.

[Parker2112]

Seriously, in the end, does it really matter? There is a bigger story here

what would that be?

[ChumpDumper]

You should have said this pages ago. Ill check it out.

The Danish guy said that in the video you posted.

Did you watch it?

[mouse]

Death by thermite was dreamed up by truthers .

If we are truthers what does that make you?

collapsed building.



Buildings that are collapsing do not shoot heavy metal beams 500 feet.

[ChumpDumper]

If we are truthers what does that make you?

collapsed building.

That's from an earthquake.

Buildings that are collapsing do not shoot heavy metal beams 500 feet.

How would silent, incendiary nanothermite do that, mouse?

Be specific.

[Wild Cobra]

Buildings that are collapsing do not shoot heavy metal beams 500 feet.

Can you show me the math to prove your statement?

I didn't think so.