Surprise Surprise, KD isn't given his usual 15-20 freebies and he becomes irrelevant

[Kori Ellis]

lol @ going back two seasons

[TD 21]

and son its still not as pathetic as the NBA awarding bull calls to the king of flopping ... Manu Ginobili

First you say Durant can't score 40 without "his usual 15-20 freebies", then when it's pointed out how many times he's done it in the past year, you criticize the quality of opponent. Any other caveats that we should know about? Let me guess, weekend games don't count? If the opposition is on a back to back? If the Thunder have had 2 or more days off? If he's not being primarily guarded by a player known for his defense?

Ginobili is not the king of flopping. You're forgetting about that sorry excuse for a 7-footer on the Mavs You know, the goof who can step on the best player in the world's foot, in a pivotal point, in a pivotal series and have him get fouled out. He can also headbutt a guy and throw himself on the ground (he likes to do this) and somehow get to the free throw line, as well.

[BRHornet45]

I just posted all his 40 point games in the last two years, I didn't pick and choose. He's only had one this year.

The point is ... you don't know what you are talking about. He has a lot of 40 point games in his career without getting to the line 20 times. And he only averages 9 FTA this year... not a "usual 15-20".

son in THIS SEASON ALONE he has already had (5) different games where he was awarded 15-20 free throws .... 09-10 he had (18) different games with 15-20 free throws.

the point is that the only way you can take Durant down is if the game is called fairly. of course solid defense plays a big role, but the bottom line is that this guy makes his living at the free throw line.

[BRHornet45]

First you say Durant can't score 40 without "his usual 15-20 freebies", then when it's pointed out how many times he's done it in the past year, you criticize the quality of opponent. Any other caveats that we should know about? Let me guess, weekend games don't count? If the opposition is on a back to back? If the Thunder have had 2 or more days off? If he's not being primarily guarded by a player known for his defense?

and you forget to mention that in ALL 3 of those games Kori posted he was awarded 12 free throws. Like I said already the 20 freebies is of course an exaggeration, but in many cases it is true. maybe I should have said 12-18 freebies???

[sandman]

son of course the 20 number was being sarcastic and exaggerating, but since you asked ...

46pts, 26 FREEBIES
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=290123012

KD is a career 26ppg scorer and has averaged 8fta a game.

In 266 career games, he has only had 11 games where he had more than 15 fta and only ONE game (which you referenced above) where he had 20fta.

You are speaking out your ass...

[GSH]

One more thing, Einstein. Over the last 2 1/2 seasons (this one, and the last two) he has averaged 20.1 points per game, without any free throws! That's about the same as LeBron, and better than Kobe or Carmello.

But maybe those three guys are irrelevant, too?

BTW - Chris Paul averages about 14 ppg without his free throws. But he's a superstar, right?

[BRHornet45]

lol at counting his first two NBA seasons whenever no one even knew who he was! look at his numbers this season and last. he jumped up to over 10 freebies per game last season and will do it again this year!

[BRHornet45]

One more thing, Einstein. Over the last 2 1/2 seasons (this one, and the last two) he has averaged 20.1 points per game, without any free throws! That's about the same as LeBron, and better than Kobe or Carmello.

But maybe those three guys are irrelevant, too?

son Kevin Durant IS IRRELEVANT whenever you take his free throw game away! look at tonight's game for example. he was only awarded 4 freebies and in return was only able to score 16 points as the team leader for the Thunder. without his usual 25+ points per game, the Thunder are a joke.

I guarantee you if tonight's game would have been played in OKC, then he would have scored at least 26 points and probably more because he would have been given more free throws. that's all I'm sayin.

[sandman]

son in THIS SEASON ALONE he has already had (5) different games where he was awarded 15-20 free throws .... 09-10 he had (18) different games with 15-20 free throws.

the point is that the only way you can take Durant down is if the game is called fairly. of course solid defense plays a big role, but the bottom line is that this guy makes his living at the free throw line.

15, 16, 16, 16, 17 this year

You are just playing with numbers to try to save face by saying between 15-20. , let's just say between 15-25.

As far as making his living, he is a career 7 makes out of 8 attempts.

You can point to the exceptions all you want, but if he is averaging 8fta for his career, he has a of a lot more 4-6fta games than he does 15.

[GSH]

son Kevin Durant IS IRRELEVANT whenever you take his free throw game away! look at tonight's game for example. he was only awarded 4 freebies and in return was only able to score 16 points as the team leader for the Thunder. without his usual 25+ points per game, the Thunder are a joke.

I guarantee you if tonight's game would have been played in OKC, then he would have scored at least 26 points and probably more because he would have been given more free throws. that's all I'm sayin.

Yo dip . READ. If you don't count ANY of his free throws, he still averages 20.1 points per game. That's over the course of 2 full seasons, plus this partial one. If the refs never sent him to the line, he would still be a dominant scorer.

You went from irritating to just boring. Stay here and jerk off all you want - I'm tired of you.

[BRHornet45]

15, 16, 16, 16, 17 this year

You are just playing with numbers to try to save face by saying between 15-20. , let's just say between 15-25.

As far as making his living, he is a career 7 makes out of 8 attempts.

You can point to the exceptions all you want, but if he is averaging 8fta for his career, he has a of a lot more 4-6fta games than he does 15.

son I said 15-20 because that is a fair and general estimate of his usual free throw count in big games. I should have said 10-20 however because there are a lot of games were he was given 12 and 13 free throws and didn't exceed 15. oh and sure you can say 15-25 if you want, as I posted on the previous page he was awarded 26 free throws in that one game.

its hilarious how you take his 8 free throws per game for his career seriously. his first two seasons no one gave two s about him and in return he was only given 5 and 7 free throw attempts in each of those seasons. Last season however the NBA took notice and needed his star power so his free throw attempts went up to well over 10 a game and will do so again this season.

[sandman]

Over the last 2 1/2 seasons (this one, and the last two) he has averaged 20.1 points per game, without any free throws! That's about the same as LeBron, and better than Kobe or Carmello.

son Kevin Durant IS IRRELEVANT whenever you take his free throw game away! ...that's all I'm sayin.

Yup. We hear you...

[weebo]

BR, sounds like you're trolling again. Just stop. KD is a great offensive player who could drop 40 on any given night against anyone (and this without a post up game). He just had a tough night against a good opponent in the Spurs, who of late have been playing stellar defensive basketball. Be gracious son and give credit where it is due and move along.

[BRHornet45]

Yo dip . READ. If you don't count ANY of his free throws, he still averages 20.1 points per game. That's over the course of 2 full seasons, plus this partial one. If the refs never sent him to the line, he would still be a dominant scorer.

You went from irritating to just boring. Stay here and jerk off all you want - I'm tired of you.

YOU read! ... I don't mean that Durant is irrelevant all together, I'm talking about in games where you take away his free throws! tonight is the best example of that. sure he scored 16 points, but was only sent to the line for 4 free points.

of course Durant is one of the best players in the NBA. I ranked him as the 3rd best! .... I'm just saying that if the games are called fairly and the defense plays well, Durant WILL BE IRRELEVANT BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE ON HIS TEAM WILL STEP UP! ... just like if you trap Chris Paul he becomes irrelevant!

[GSH]

YOU read! ... I don't mean that Durant is irrelevant all together, I'm talking about in games where you take away his free throws! tonight is the best example of that. sure he scored 16 points, but was only sent to the line for 4 free points.

of course Durant is one of the best players in the NBA. I ranked him as the 3rd best! .... I'm just saying that if the games are called fairly and the defense plays well, Durant WILL BE IRRELEVANT BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE ON HIS TEAM WILL STEP UP! ... just like if you trap Chris Paul he becomes irrelevant!

Just like if you backtrack off of an already monumentally ignorant statement, YOU are ing irrelevant. "I didn't mean he was TOTALLY irrelevant. I meant he was sorta kinda irrelevant... because of his teammates. Yeah, that's the ticket. His teammates make him irrelevant. That's what I meant."

What? It was a stupid thing to say. Your best bet is just to say you weren't thinking, and call it a night.

[dbestpro]

The Thunder need to change their approach. Shooting so many free throws is great for the regualr season, but you will never win a championship this way becasue you will not get the same calls come playoff time.

[BRHornet45]

Just like if you backtrack off of an already monumentally ignorant statement, YOU are ing irrelevant. "I didn't mean he was TOTALLY irrelevant. I meant he was sorta kinda irrelevant... because of his teammates. Yeah, that's the ticket. His teammates make him irrelevant. That's what I meant."

What? It was a stupid thing to say. Your best bet is just to say you weren't thinking, and call it a night.

son the le of the this thread in case you missed it ...

"Surprise Surprise, KD isn't given his usual 15-20 freebies and he becomes irrelevant"

now where in that does he say that Durant is an irrelevant player all together or however you want to try and spin it?

[BRHornet45]

The Thunder need to change their approach. Shooting so many free throws is great for the regualr season, but you will never win a championship this way becasue you will not get the same calls come playoff time.

EXACTLY ... Durant can only do so much for them and like you said if he isn't getting the calls and getting to the line they are in deep . Westbrook has been solid this season as well, but they haven't improved at all from last season in my opinion. Still a damn good playoff team, but 1st or 2nd round knockout at best.

[BRHornet45]

last season ... and he will lead again this year as well

[ajballer4]

Hes a good player, but he does get to the line too much. Theres no way anyone should get 26 FTs in a game

[lefty]

He is overrated

Besides scoring, he doesnt bring anything

[TJastal]

son Durant receives more help from the refs than Lebron, Kobe, and Wade combined ... the NBA has been hungry for another star player and they have pushed this kid to the top and have a ton of money invested into making him work. Of course he isn't just "average" as a player, but he simply doesn't have what it takes to bring his team to the next level without help from the refs. The bottom line is that Durant can't score big without help from the refs. He will never drop 40 legit points in a game without being sent to the freebie line at least 20 times.

I may not care for BR in a personal sense but I agree with him on this one. A jumpshooter like Durant should not be getting to the line as much as he does. , you take away his cheesy move of throwing his pencil thin arms into a defender and there goes half his fouls shots right there.

[senorglory]

Durant looked pretty good in FIBA play this summer. Are the FIBA refs in on the NBA conspiracy to prop up Durant with bogus calls?

[BRHornet45]

lmao FIBA ....

[TJastal]

I'm sorry to be such a debbie downer for all the Durant worshippers in this thread, but..

The staple of Durant's game is taking semi-contested jumpers from the top of the key, this should not result in leading the league in free throws. He should be lucky to be getting as many fouls shots as Tony Parker, IMO.