Tiago Splitter's Flip Shots

[Rummpd]

He is not a soft player look at all the charges he takes and screens he sets, he just has lost a little confidence right now - he will figure it out.

[Penya]

I'm not optimistic about Tiago this season. I only can see him having some success with pick'n'roll on O.

The main problem is his phisical condition. I've been watching him play for 8 years and I can tell you that he's absolutely exhausted, I've never seen him this bad. He could run the floor, make tough shots, play a pretty decent post game and finish powerfully, even against legit 7ft guys.

I know he's having a hard time, especially having mental mistakes and maybe trying to do too much, but that's just what he was able to do here in Spain -and playing with Brazil NT.

Definitely, I can see a Jefferson-esque evolution on him next year, but not this season, unless he gets significant playing time along with Manu/TP playing P'n'R.

PS- His D has been pretty decent so far except in a couple of games.

[TJastal]

I'm not optimistic about Tiago this season. I only can see him having some success with pick'n'roll on O.

The main problem is his phisical condition. I've been watching him play for 8 years and I can tell you that he's absolutely exhausted, I've never seen him this bad. He could run the floor, make tough shots, play a pretty decent post game and finish powerfully, even against legit 7ft guys.

I know he's having a hard time, especially having mental mistakes and maybe trying to do too much, but that's just what he was able to do here in Spain -and playing with Brazil NT.

Definitely, I can see a Jefferson-esque evolution on him next year, but not this season, unless he gets significant playing time along with Manu/TP playing P'n'R.

PS- His D has been pretty decent so far except in a couple of games.

I don't know if I'd subscribe to this theory. I don't think he's exhausted, rather just out of shape from having such sparce PT all year long. Doesn't help that the spurs have transformed into a run and gun team which probably just exacerbates the situation.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't know if I'd subscribe to this theory. I don't think he's exhausted, rather just out of shape from having such sparce PT all year long. Doesn't help that the spurs have transformed into a run and gun team which probably just exacerbates the situation.

He obviously hasn't played enough basketball this past year.

[TDMVPDPOY]

sometimes pop should just let him play instead of subbing him or not playing at all

how will he learn if he doesnt get the opportunity to do more then to take him out cause of one dumb play?

yeh we are in win mode this season, not enough time develop young players, then why bring him over if you not going to use him...

[G-Dawgg]

What games have you been watching, G-dawwg? He defends the paint and blocks/alters a ton of shots. While I wouldn't call him "fluid" around the rim offensively, he's going through an adjustment period that many players from Europe go through as well. I think he just needs steady sprinkles of water and he'll be like the Chia Pet on 'roids by the end of the year.

Dude, don't candy coat it. He sucks. That's why he gets no court time. What games have YOU been watching? If you think he's an intimidating shot-blocker you need new glasses.

You must have been one of those people that wanted Popovich to give Mahinmi more court time because you thought he had potential too...

I WISH he was the rim-defender that we need, and he MAY improve, but as of RIGHT NOW, I'm calling it exactly how it is.. He's a bust and a disappointment. PERIOD.

[TJastal]

He obviously hasn't played enough basketball this past year.

He's 25 frickin years old, too. At that age he should be able to play every single day of the week.

[TJastal]

, back in my twenties I played basketball 3X a week 3-4 hours a night practically non-stop (since my teams usually won to hold the court).

[Spurs Brazil]

He's not a soft player but his moves in the paint are soft. He's been using those moves his entire life but against NBA bigs it won't work.

We don't need Tiago to score this season so he must focus on defense and rebound. If he does that it'll help a lot. And in the off-season work hard to expand his offense game

[Trill Clinton]

TBH I'd be more inclined to say Matt Bonner's shooting mechanics are much more worthy of a wrecking ball than Splitter's post moves.

I don't think Tiago's game needs a wrecking ball, what it really needs is some TLC from Pop in the form of actual game minutes.

You must be a Tiago stan.

Matt Bonner's shooting mechanics have made him the #2 three point shooter so far this year.

And NOOOOO...Tiago needs to dedicate a summer, just like RJ did, to working on his low post game and getting more comfortable with the system.

[BRs.Ganso]

I never saw Splitter as a center.

playing in PF, would be much better for him.

[Agloco]

Soft. He needs a lot of work on finishing around the rim. It's obvious that he's not strong enough at this point.

[Agloco]

He's 25 frickin years old, too. At that age he should be able to play every single day of the week.

He's not playing pickup games idiot. NBA ad Euroleague rigors are a bit different than getting outside with the local knuckleheads for a few hours.

[TJastal]

He's not playing pickup games idiot. NBA ad Euroleague rigors are a bit different than getting outside with the local knuckleheads for a few hours.

Not in the leagues I played in.

[quentin_compson]

Well, these flip shots are really ugly, that's for sure. They could be effective, I guess, if Tiago shot them with more confidence.
But the point of release is very low, so it will probably always be a rather risky shot. They also look flat and are too short most of the time, but that might be a lack of confidence thing as well. Splitter should generally try to hold the ball higher, the way Gasol does.

[Spursfan 87]

The key for Tiago is to get stronger during the offseason. He needs to at least add 10-15 pounds of muscle. Right now he gets push around too easily, and he can't back down anybody so he has to use that ugly flip shot. The few times Tiago has been able to back people down he's had nice finishes and nice footwork.

[ChumpDumper]

Did TJastal just claim that his rec league career was just as arduous if not more than professional and world championship basketball combined?



Yes, he did.

[TJastal]

Did TJastal just claim that his rec league career was just as arduous if not more than professional and world championship basketball combined?



Yes, he did.

Well I'm sure it was more arduous than your nightly ritual of putting chip to mouth 100X

[ElNono]

Tiago's defense > Scola. I think he could stick in the league even without that midrange jumper. But your right that would open things up bigtime if he had that.

We're talking offense here... I don't necessarily disagree about the defensive side. Tiago has more tools too, being he's a legit 7 footer.

[Dex]

Did TJastal just claim that his rec league career was just as arduous if not more than professional and world championship basketball combined?



Yes, he did.

Basketball is basketball.

Yesterday I was playing 2K11, and today I just tossed some paper into the garbage bin. I hate back-to-backs.

[ChumpDumper]

Well I'm sure it was more arduous than your nightly ritual of putting chip to mouth 100X

What makes you think I do that?

Basketball is basketball.

Yesterday I was playing 2K11, and today I just tossed some paper into the garbage bin. I hate back-to-backs.

[TJastal]

What makes you think I do that?

Well I can't imagine what else one would do at every Toros game since 2007 Unless that seat in section D row 15 with all the balled up kleenex is yours.

[ChumpDumper]

Well I can't imagine what else one would do at every Toros game since 2007 Unless that seat in section D row 15 with all the balled up kleenex is yours.

Toros games are not nightly and only 24 nights out of a year -- and really, if that's all you can think one would do at a basketball game? That would explain your arduous season with your "teammates."

[Jason R]

Basketball is basketball.

Yesterday I was playing 2K11, and today I just tossed some paper into the garbage bin. I hate back-to-backs.

[ohmwrecker]

I picked crafty and useful because, I don't think he should totally erase them from the repertoire, but he needs to develop more of a power game for sure.
In the right situation his flip shot is useful and hard to defend, but not if the defender can see it coming a mile away. He has good footwork, but he needs to attack the rim more often than not and a little outside game (like a turn around jumper) would help a lot too. He is far too predictable and that's why he is struggling in his post offense.