Will the Mavs make a trade?

[Mel_13]

Kidding aside, can they dump Haywood in some sort of trade? Who would take him?

Some team with a player with an even worse contract.

[sribb43]

with the lockout looming mavs dont have time to waste away another year of their aging vets careers. Must go for it now. Hopefully a team like the bobcats looking for savings will make a move for Butler/roddy package + a pick for G-wall or S-Jax

[DPG21920]

IMO, it will take a big (Chandler or Haywood) for the Mavs to get a big named player.

[sribb43]

IMO, it will take a big (Chandler or Haywood) for the Mavs to get a big named player.

Throw in that piece of Haywood but mavs must get a serviceable big to replace him. Only GM dumb enough to take on Haywood is MJ

[DPG21920]

I bet you're right. I bet he would do something for Haywood.

[Mel_13]

I bet your right. I bet he would do something for Haywood.

He's already got Nazr, Kwame, and Diop. Does being a Carolina grad count that much for MJ?

[DPG21920]

He's already got Nazr, Kwame, and Diop. Does being a Carolina grad count that much for MJ?

Kwame is inactive all the time. Those guys aren't going to cut it. They are all cut rate bigs. I know Haywood is playing terrible, but he has at least shown to be much more capable than the current Jordan bigs.

[HeatChamps]

Mavs are jinxed. This song is perfect for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub14_iNzt9w

[Mel_13]

Kwame is inactive all the time. Those guys aren't going to cut it. They are all cut rate bigs. I know Haywood is playing terrible, but he has at least shown to be much more capable than the current Jordan bigs.

Agreed, but MJ's presumed motivation in trading Jackson or Wallace is to shed future salary, not improve the team now. Does anyone really think the Bobcats are a better team if they trade Wallace or Jackson for Haywood? Plus acquiring Haywood adds future salary.

[sefant77]

Jordan is ready to blow up and barely any team want Jax with 20/2 left after this season. I think if the Mavs want they can straight up Butler for Jax, maybe taking some minor bad contracts (Livingston, Najera).

Wallace ist untradeable anymore either, but that may take Diop/Diaw to take....

And then there is of course potential Iggy "available".

I just hope they dont wait too long until these players are gone. Or stick with Butler and he is still hurt during playoff time.

[jag]

Roddy doesn't have much trade value at the moment. Just because Cuban refuses to add people to trades publicly doesn't mean that the player has a lot of value.

I am sure some people are somewhat intrigued by him, because he has certainly shown glimpses of great potential, but coaches and GM's will look at the facts:

1) He was very inconsistent
2) His year could have been a fluke
3) He is injured and it could very well effect him long-term and he is a slow healer
4) His own coach chooses to play JJB over him

I know Mav fan loves him. I know Cuban hypes him up. But if you are being real about the situation, Roddy doesn't have much value at the moment. People will look at it like the JJ Hickson syndrome. JJ showed some nice flashes sporadically and the Cavs refused to put him in trades (even for Amare). Now he is a very average player with his increased minutes.

All of those things go against Roddy in a trade. I'm not saying the Mavs can't make a big trade, but I don't think a Roddy will be the deal breaker one way or another.

Interesting post. I agree with you but you can't deny his raw talent. If you put him in next year's draft he's a lottery pick...a high lottery pick.

Deciding to include or not include roddy in trade talks could potentially be the deciding factor.

[DPG21920]

Agreed, but MJ's presumed motivation in trading Jackson or Wallace is to shed future salary, not improve the team now. Does anyone really think the Bobcats are a better team if they trade Wallace or Jackson for Haywood? Plus acquiring Haywood adds future salary.

I agree with you, but from some of the things Jordan does, I was just agreeing with Sribb that Jordan might be dumb enough to do something like this.

[DPG21920]

Interesting post. I agree with you but you can't deny his raw talent. If you put him in next year's draft he's a lottery pick...a high lottery pick.

Deciding to include or not include roddy in trade talks could potentially be the deciding factor.

Of course it's possible, but I am just going off of what I see. If it comes to the Mavs swinging for the fences, Roddy is not going to be the piece that keeps them from doing a deal.

Would they like to keep him? Sure, I would to. But if they have to make a trade to save their season, and Roddy is the asking price, he is gone.

Potential is nice, but when it comes to rookies, limited minutes and injuries, their value is limited.

Lets put it this way: With what a player like Hill has done over the past couple years, he is much more valuable in a trade at the moment, yet 99% of Mav fans would argue otherwise. The logic applies the same to Roddy, but for some reason (I understand the "fan" love for him and I really like him as a player) the logic does not apply to Roddy.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Mavs are jinxed. This song is perfect for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub14_iNzt9w

My man seriously get a life

[Mel_13]

I agree with you, but from some of the things Jordan does, I was just agreeing with Sribb that Jordan might be dumb enough to do something like this.

MJ's record on personnel decisions is certainly less than stellar.

[Harry Callahan]

He's already got Nazr, Kwame, and Diop. Does being a Carolina grad count that much for MJ?

I don't see Haywood as moveable right now unless they throw in a quality young player and multiple #1s. I don't know that they want to give that up for rent a players and band-aids.

The Haywood contract is a big fat albatross around the Mavies neck. He can barely get on the court and he's 30 years old - in other words he will not get better, only worse. It's so funny that they will have to spend $20-25MM per year ($50MM including luxury tax) at the five spot to afford one decent center next year (Chandler).

Dallas Mavs might be doomed this year as far as going far in the POs.

[Ghazi]

Butler/Roddy package for melo.

[Roddy Beaubois]

tbh if Roddy ever makes a recovery, he has proven he can be a consistent scorer.
In the six game stretch when Butler got hurt last year, Roddy averaged 17 ppg on 55% shooting in about 25 mpg. And before anyone ask his "only good game of his career" wasn't in that stretch so there is no stat inflation.

[sribb43]

With G-Force hurt again Mavs need to focus on SJax

[Roddy Beaubois]

I didn't want G-Force anyway. Not a good fit.

[Ghazi]

Iggy or Melo plz.

[DPG21920]

tbh if Roddy ever makes a recovery, he has proven he can be a consistent scorer.
In the six game stretch when Butler got hurt last year, Roddy averaged 17 ppg on 55% shooting in about 25 mpg. And before anyone ask his "only good game of his career" wasn't in that stretch so there is no stat inflation.

That is still only 6 games. A guy like Hill whom Mav fans constantly bash, put up numbers just as good for a longer stretch with TP out.

Like I said, he has shown flashes, but a handful of games in one season isn't proving anything.

Until he gets healthy and actually proves he can do it for more than a couple games here and there, his value is limited.

I think he can, but thinking isn't doing. His injury is also very alarming considering Anderson for the Spurs had the same injury and is closer to returning even though Roddy was injured 3 months before him.

[DPG21920]

stephen jackson ain't putting us over the top. He's not even the 2nd option Butler was (not a guy that can take over for stretches and create his own, shot) and Dirk still needed more help on top of that. SJax would be a step back from where we already just were.

Disagree. Jax as a second option is better than Caron in my opinion. He is a better ball handler, passer and creator of his own shot.

He is struggling a bit more because he is on a team that is not well balanced (no big men, not a lot of shooters) and he has to be the #1 guy. Jax wouldn't be some monumental upgrade, but he would be no worse and likely better imo.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Realistic targets are Jackson and Hamilton. Both bring the D needed and can be just as effective on offense as Butler
I love Butler but lets not act like he is irreplaceable

[Roddy Beaubois]

That is still only 6 games. A guy like Hill whom Mav fans constantly bash, put up numbers just as good for a longer stretch with TP out.

Like I said, he has shown flashes, but a handful of games in one season isn't proving anything.

Until he gets healthy and actually proves he can do it for more than a couple games here and there, his value is limited.

I think he can, but thinking isn't doing. His injury is also very alarming considering Anderson for the Spurs had the same injury and is closer to returning even though Roddy was injured 3 months before him.

Its the only six game stretch (aside from the very beginning of the season) where he got consistent minutes. There isn't much to go on with Roddy. But anytime he did get consistent minutes, he produced. Its not like he would just disappear on the floor constantly, its just that he didn't get any playing time from a coach that hates playing rookies.
Im not saying that hes going to come back and face rape the league, I just think that if can get healthy and get his feet back under him, that he can be a consistent (a mucn more efficient) scorer than guys like Jason Terry.