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    6/28 when you have over 30 something players to choose from and the 2nd place player receives only half the amount of votes. So yes, at least doubling the amount of votes that any other player received is "overwhelming."

    Get it?


    6/28

    21.4%

    You're trying way too hard to cover up the simple fact that you owned yourself on this topic. That you are continuing to do so is amusing for us and sad for you.

    In that same survey, Dirk was voted as the best international player by 57.1% (16/28) of those polled. Now that is overwhelming. If you call 21.4% overwhelming, you're going to need a new word to describe Dirk's vote.

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    I don't understand why it's so hard for you guys to believe that other gms around the league covet a young player of ours, didn't you watch him destroy your interior d last year?
    Because you don't. You are here trying to peddle him off for something serviceable.

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    i've never seen anyone with a knee or leg injury that would keep him out 3 months be able to walk off the floor without help. Butler walked off the floor after he went down. it struck me that he wouldn't be out for long at that point, but what do i know.
    I walked off the court after blowing my ACL in college. Your logic doesn't hold. It's all about pain tolerance.

    In other news, may be time to write off my fantasy squad this year. Brandon Roy with knee problems, now this...

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    Regardless, the quote did come before the injury.... and its WAY over doing it to say a broken foot renders a supremely athletic player as "average." MOST players come back from broken feet and much worse injuries than that. Most recently, Blake Griffin. When you get older, yeah.... injuries may effect your overall athletic ability even when your healthy again.

    And the fact remains, he's almost five months out from injury and still not back.

    o, red flag. Silly Mavs fan.

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    Exactly. GMs around the league... When asked who they expect to have a breakout season in a survey, overwhelmingly said roddy Beaubois.
    That's not what they were asked. They were asked which international player is going to have a breakout season. That makes it a much smaller sample size and definitely not an "overwhelming" response.

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    Um yes... Almost a quarter of the league chose one player out of dozens and dozens of international players to choose from. Most people would call that an overwhelming selection, particularly when you compare it to how many votes the other international players received, go check it out.
    Roddy got 6 votes, while Batum, Casspi, and Splitter got 3 each. Four other players each received 2 votes. You'd be hard pressed to find many others that would consider that to be "overwhelming".

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    6/28

    21.4%

    You're trying way too hard to cover up the simple fact that you owned yourself on this topic. That you are continuing to do so is amusing for us and sad for you.

    In that same survey, Dirk was voted as the best international player by 57.1% (16/28) of those polled. Now that is overwhelming. If you call 21.4% overwhelming, you're going to need a new word to describe Dirk's vote.
    When asked who was the best power forward in the game, it was a tie between dirk and pau.... so that was contradicted... at least to an extent.

    Furthermore, me continuing to say that Roddy doubled the votes of anyone else who received votes is not desperately trying to cover up a mistake I made, it's trying to clarify and elaborate to explain to you WHY it is "overwhelming."

    You can continue to pretend that Roddy at least doubling the vote count of anyone else who received votes is just a marginal victory for beaubois, but your lying to yourself.

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    Roddy got 6 votes, while Batum, Casspi, and Splitter got 3 each. Four other players each received 2 votes. You'd be hard pressed to find many others that would consider that to be "overwhelming".
    O.K? I'll return from real gm in a minute to show you that i'm not hard pressed at all I suppose......

    Like I said.... he doubled the vote count of anyone else who received a vote..... what's not overwhelming about that? It's certainly more than decisive. Sorry if "overwhelming" is too much for you guys to handle. What word would you prefer me to use?

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    When asked who was the best power forward in the game, it was a tie between dirk and pau.... so that was contradicted... at least to an extent.

    Furthermore, me continuing to say that Roddy doubled the votes of anyone else who received votes is not desperately trying to cover up a mistake I made, it's trying to clarify and elaborate to explain to you WHY it is "overwhelming."

    You can continue to pretend that Roddy at least doubling the vote count of anyone else who received votes is just a marginal victory for beaubois, but your lying to yourself.


    21.4% is not overwhelming.

    You are amusing.

    Thanks for playing.

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    When asked who was the best power forward in the game, it was a tie between dirk and pau.... so that was contradicted... at least to an extent.

    Furthermore, me continuing to say that Roddy doubled the votes of anyone else who received votes is not desperately trying to cover up a mistake I made, it's trying to clarify and elaborate to explain to you WHY it is "overwhelming."

    You can continue to pretend that Roddy at least doubling the vote count of anyone else who received votes is just a marginal victory for beaubois, but your lying to yourself.
    It's word play. Getting 2 votes when 8 other players got 1 means you got twice as many, but you didn't get an overwhelming majority of the votes. The majority of the votes went elsewhere. In a two party system, sure, but when you have 10 choices and everyone gets a few votes, it's a toss up.

    So yeah, you're reaching.

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    Wasn't really thinking about the Johnson for Butler and Beaubois trade financially yesterday. It doesn't work. Though if the two teams could agree to the principles, then financially the Mavs could make it work, with the expiring contract of Stevenson, plus other minor salaries if need be.

    But the more I think about it, Jackson is probably more likely than Johnson. Supposedly the Bobcats want to move him, his contract is half the length and much more digestible financially for the Mavs and he's a similar type of player to Johnson. Also, he almost certainly wouldn't require the Mavs to relinquish Beaubois. They could probably get away with Butler's expiring contract and Jones.

    Same thing I said about Johnson applies to Jackson. He'd give them a puncher's chance (though a slightly worse one than Johnson), but not enough to make them a serious threat to win the championship.

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    Chandler + Beaubois + 2 first rounders + filler(s) to Denver for Anthony.
    You're definitely a troll.

    There is no way Denver would accept that paltry offer. LOL.

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    He's not a troll, just a 15 year old who likes to type.

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    He's not a troll, just a 15 year old who likes to type.
    Well he keeps repeating that offer so he is either a troll or wants Dallas to get Melo for chump change, which is what his repeated offer is.

    Trolls don't have an age, they just are.

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    He's an upgrade over Terry or Butler. Given their record, I'd say that's all the push they need.
    PLEASE DO NOT LET that happen there, let them just stand pat and lose.

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    It's word play. Getting 2 votes when 8 other players got 1 means you got twice as many, but you didn't get an overwhelming majority of the votes. The majority of the votes went elsewhere. In a two party system, sure, but when you have 10 choices and everyone gets a few votes, it's a toss up.

    So yeah, you're reaching.
    I pick this one.

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    What are you talking about? He didn't play until game 6, in which he dominated the entire time he was on the court, an honest spurs fan will tell you so... Which seems to be getting scarce these days
    No lie roddy did play well in the time he was given on the court. As a spurs fan, I was glad rick didn't give him more playing time, god knows how the series would have played out if rick had faith in the rookie at the time. Coach pop did the same thing with george hill when dallas carved us up 4-1 in the playoffs the year before and he came in 2nd as MIP the following season. Roddy will be a great player if he stays healthy. He is athletic, has long arms and can shoot the long ball. His speed and craftiness in that game was a preview of what awaited us against phoenix, but none of that matters anymore. The drive for five is alive this season and although I live in harlem, I'll figure out a way to get to that parade in a few months.

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    He didn't stink. He scored in double figures iirc . . . Carlisle just inexplicably didn't go back to him. Trust issues tbh.
    It wasn't a lack of trust. It was that Carlisle absolutely COULD trust that Beubois couldn't guard anybody in crunch time.

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    Melo himself is an expiring contract, so that being part of the equation doesn't offer much to Denver. If they are going to part with the biggest face of their franchise over the past 20 years, it'll be the players/picks they get back - not cap relief - that make a difference.

    Right now, it looks like their strategy is to hold him until they either get an overwhelming offer or his fear of the new CBA leads to him foregoing his NY talk and re-upping. He can talk all he wants about leaving, but when push comes to shove, is he really willing to leave that much $ on the table?

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    Melo himself is an expiring contract, so that being part of the equation doesn't offer much to Denver. If they are going to part with the biggest face of their franchise over the past 20 years, it'll be the players/picks they get back - not cap relief - that make a difference.

    Right now, it looks like their strategy is to hold him until they either get an overwhelming offer or his fear of the new CBA leads to him foregoing his NY talk and re-upping. He can talk all he wants about leaving, but when push comes to shove, is he really willing to leave that much $ on the table?
    It depends on how much money he stands to make (other than salary) by putting himself in a much bigger market.

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    Chandler + Beaubois + 2 first rounders + filler(s) to Denver for Anthony.
    Carmelo Anthony is going to screw up the chemistry of his future team, and it might as well be the Mavericks.

    Let Cuban go ahead and build him a Denver Nuggets. It'll never make it out of beta anyway. Cuban won't be able to resist that one more trade mentality. Sean Elliott had a great point last night that you can't shortcut chemistry and experience.

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    If the Mavs want to stockpile players that dominated San Antonio for 10 minutes, the should see if Goran Dragic is available. A backcourt of Dragic + Beaubois would annihilate the Spurs; no Dirk needed.

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    If it is a partial tear then 2 months
    If it is a complete tear then he's done for the season.

    Melo - Denver
    Martin - Houston

    those are the 2 guys they are targeting.

    If Bobo could play now then they would not do anything.

    Dirk's out
    Butlers out
    Matrix missed a game
    Jet's shot sucks @ss

    This team is in a downard spiral. Too bad too because it looked like our best team ever 10 days ago.

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    It wasn't a lack of trust. It was that Carlisle absolutely COULD trust that Beubois couldn't guard anybody in crunch time.
    Pretty much said it already, bubba. Except I spelled Beaubois correctly.

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