Lakers punked by Grizz at home...

[spurtech09]

you can say what you want about the lakers but there still a good team and come play offs im pretty sure the lakers will be ready to go....

[said7]

After the Jackson lashing, I wouldn't be surprised if Kobe's next game he has this kind of line.

0/0 attempts/points
15 assists
10 rebounds
4 steals

And they will probably win. Lol Kobe. He could eclipse Jordan if he wasn't such a nutjob.

[TampaDude]

^^^People also forget they are the 2 time defending champs.

The only reason they won the le last year can be summed up in 4 words:

Ray Allen
Joey Crawford

Celtics had the Lakers beat, but Ray Ray went su iously cold the game after he set an NBA record for 3s...I've heard of reversion to the mean, but that was borderline dumping. Plus, don't even get me started on the 4th quarter of Game 7. Kobe was smiling because he knew Joey C. has that on lockdown. Crawford reffed the most critical games, 1, 5, and 7. In Game 7, the Lakers had DOUBLE the FTs of the Celtics, yet only won by 4 points. Do the math.

[HankChinaski]

The only reason they won the le last year can be summed up in 4 words:

Ray Allen
Joey Crawford

Celtics had the Lakers beat, but Ray Ray went su iously cold the game after he set an NBA record for 3s...I've heard of reversion to the mean, but that was borderline dumping. Plus, don't even get me started on the 4th quarter of Game 7. Kobe was smiling because he knew Joey C. has that on lockdown. Crawford reffed the most critical games, 1, 5, and 7. In Game 7, the Lakers had DOUBLE the FTs of the Celtics, yet only won by 4 points. Do the math.

Ray Allen couldn't hit crap because of his tired ass legs had no lift in them to finish shots after running all over the place guarding Kobe. I mean Allen did a amazing job covering Kobe. Some of the best defense on the guy was during that series. He just isn't a player that can run and do the same thing on the other end of the court for that many games.

It's one or the other. I'm sure that Rivers and the rest of the staff were more than happy with his defense, if they could only have been able to counter Artest at times they would be your NBA Champs last season.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

They dont have a strong bench. They have gotten older, slower on the wings and can no longer fast break you to death as in years past. Artest sucks, Fisher is finished, I think LA will look to make a deal soon.

I can see them going after Melo, Nash maybe, Batum, Joe Johnson, Josh Smith......I dont think they are gonna lay down and die, but they struggled to win it last year with home court against an old Bost team who if they had Perkins would have won.

Lakers dont have the foot speed anymore to get it done.

I agree. Fisher is just too slow these days, and Artest has been more of a liability than a help thus far this year. Before any trade though I think we'll see Jax play his young legs a bit more.

I personally don't understand the talks of the Lakers not playing great. They aren't playing well, and if the playlets started tomorrow they wouldn't be ready, but Bynum just got back, that changes a lot. The Lakers are still 23-11, that is a good record. If the Lakers were around the .500 mark then I could see cause for concern in lala land, but right now it is more about the lakers having a lack of interest.

Anyone remember the celtics last season? They looked completely done, but once the playoffs started they went into championship mode and made it to game 7 of the finals.

That is a very good point, I was thinking the same thing. I don't think the Fakers are done, but they are in need of a shakeup.

Also, don't forget that Kobe's legs have 1200 games on them - he can't carry them as consistently as he once could. I think that truly makes them vulnerable.

[21_Blessings]

Are they imploding yet?

Discuss.

Yes they're imploding over some meaningless preseason games in December/January

Spurs fan knows deep down that their team has no chance at beating the Lakers in a 7 game series. Of course they would be thinking wishfully about the Lakers imploding. How convenient.

[TwoHandJam]

I'm scared.

[sheriee84]

They dont have a strong bench. They have gotten older, slower on the wings and can no longer fast break you to death as in years past. Artest sucks, Fisher is finished, I think LA will look to make a deal soon.

I can see them going after Melo, Nash maybe, Batum, Joe Johnson, Josh Smith......I dont think they are gonna lay down and die, but they struggled to win it last year with home court against an old Bost team who if they had Perkins would have won.

Lakers dont have the foot speed anymore to get it done.

Maybe Stern will arrange it so that they can trade 2 future second round draft picks for all of Boston's starting line up...