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    wow, this sucks for the mavs. I know he may only be the 3rd leading scorer on that team but he has shown he can put up 30 against the spurs. Any major reshuffling of their roster will NOT be good for the mavs, no matter who they get. Remember butler wasnt that good the first year he arrived, he needed time to gel. Mavs finally got someone who could do something other than shoot jumpers and now he's hurt.

    If chandler is a trade piece then kiss that D goodbye, thats why I dont think they'll trade tyson.

    Another thing to be mindful of: They would now have to focus on trading to a team that not only wants expiring contracts (not hard to find) but a team that is at peace with kissing the season goodbye, and a weak playoff appearance. If butler is out a few months, he is only going to be a fraction of what he is upon returning. Is charlotte going to be ok with this?

    Joe Johnson?? I hope they get him, he's mainly a spot up shooter, cant create.

    Stephen Jackson: As great as he is, he'd need time to gel, and at the same time would be cancerous like he is to other teams. He'd probably try to take over the offense.

    Not loving an injury to another player, but loving the possible shakeup to the mavs. Reminds me of when they parted ways with a healthy devin harris/spur killer. Such a panic move.

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    I would be pissed if they got Stephen Jackson.

    He would dominate on that team.
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    then Action Jackson would be the only person on that team with balls.

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    Stephen Jackson traded to Dallas, immediately injures balls.

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    Sources: Mavs won't rush to replace Butler
    January, 3, 2011
    By Marc Stein
    The Mavericks don’t plan to rush to the trade market in the wake of Caron Butler’s knee injury, according to sources with knowledge of the team’s thinking.

    They might have no choice eventually, but sources say team officials -- convinced since the summer that they’ve assembled one of the league’s deeper teams -- want to give the current roster an opportunity to respond to the loss of Butler before looking at more drastic moves.

    The Mavs, for starters, have to confirm the extent of Butler’s injury. They’re certainly bracing for word that Butler has indeed suffered a torn patella tendon in his right knee, given that Mavs coach Rick Carlisle didn’t hesitate to describe the injury as “potentially serious” after it happened Saturday night in Milwaukee. But a firm diagnosis wasn’t expected before Monday.

    If the injury proves to be a season-ender, as feared, Dallas will be able to apply to the league for a disabled player exception worth half of Butler’s $10.6 million salary. Such an exception -- if granted after an examination by an independent doctor appointed by the league -- would thus be worth $5.28 million and valid for 45 days to sign or trade for one player whose salary doesn’t exceed that figure.

    But first Dallas A) eagerly awaits Dirk Nowitzki’s expected return from a sprained knee this week to get the offense closer to normal looking and B) hopes Shawn Marion can keep stepping in for Butler like he did Sunday night in Cleveland when the former All-Star led the Mavs with 22 points.

    The problem there, though, is that asking Marion to play small forward cuts into his minutes at power forward, which has proven to be his more productive position.

    Another problem: Dallas could well be forced to go to its three-guard alignment featuring Jason Kidd, Jason Terry and J.J. Barea – with Kidd as the small forward defensively – more than it wants to for scoring without Butler.

    The best-case counter to a long-term loss of Butler would obviously be an impactful return to the lineup for second-year guard Roddy Beaubois, who can’t play small forward but has the dynamic offensive ability to make up for the scoring lost from Butler, who was quietly averaging 15 points per game in 29.9 minutes while shooting a quite passable 43.1 percent from 3-point range.

    Beaubois, though, is still believed to be at least three weeks away from playing thanks to a broken bone in his left foot that has sidelined the French speedster since August. Carlisle has consistently refused to proffer so much as a guesstimate for when we might see Beaubois again, noting that the 22-year-old hasn’t even been able to practice yet.

    Asked before Christmas how he eventually planned to find minutes for Beaubois, given the unexpected emergence of DeShawn Stevenson, Carlisle said: "We’re a long way from that conversation."

    Yet even if Dallas does manage to survive Butler’s absence through the likes of Marion, Terry, Stevenson and eventually Beaubois -- or a potential newcomer acquired through a disabled player exception -- Butler’s attractiveness as a trade chip will be reduced to strictly financial terms if he can’t play again this season. With an expiring contract, Butler could provide salary relief to cost-conscious teams in any deal before the Feb. 24 deadline but nothing more unless his injury proves far less serious than feared.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...replace-butler

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    Butler underwent surgery today. It says hes out indefinitely. I cant believe news on full tear or partial hasnt broken yet

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    Source: Caron Butler has surgery

    DALLAS -- Caron Butler underwent surgery on his right knee Tuesday morning, according to a source, but the Dallas Mavericks will not comment on the severity of the injury until later in the day.

    Butler injured the knee early in Saturday's game at Milwaukee. On Sunday a source said that the initial diagnosis was that Butler had at least a partial tear of the patellar tendon, an injury that could keep the Mavs' starting small forward out for a couple of months.

    The franchise was holding its breath that it was not a full tear of the tendon which could end Butler's season.

    After Tuesday morning's shootaround in preparation for that night's home game against the Portland Trail Blazers -- in which Dallas will also be without Dirk Nowitzki (sprained right knee) for a fifth consecutive game -- Mavs coach Rick Carlisle would not address Butler's situation, only to say that the team would make an official comment Tuesday afternoon.

    Earlier Tuesday morning, Butler used his Twitter feed to post a picture of himself in a hospital bed and wearing a hospital gown and cap with a caption that read: "Going in." Even so, the Mavs were remaining mum on Butler's status.

    "Championship!" Butler said via Twitter from the hospital prior to the surgery. "Remember that fans that's what its about and we have what it take in that lockeroom to get it done, ill be 100 percent" ... "In no time, and I will be the biggest supporter on the sideline until healthy thanks for the support again I'm going in ..."

    Butler was the Mavs' third-leading scorer, averaging 15.0 points a game, and close to overtaking Jason Terry for second behind Nowitzki. Over the past seven games, Butler was on a tear, averaging nearly 20 points a game, and he had significantly raised his shooting percentage from the field as well as from beyond the 3-point arc.

    Shawn Marion started in Butler's place in Sunday's win at Cleveland and scored a team-high 22 points to help snap a three-game losing skid. The veteran is the likely replacement moving forward.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba...e=NBAHeadlines

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    Does anyone know if people have surgery for only partial tears?

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    mavs are being hush hush about severity cause they don't want to be bent over in a trade scenario

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    Does anyone know if people have surgery for only partial tears?
    Rick Carlisle said the Mavs will release details of his injury sometime this afternoon.

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    Ruptured patella tendon. Done for the rest of the year.

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    Caron Butler to miss rest of season. Had surgery today to repair ruptured right patellar tendon. #dallasmavs
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    Gotta think a trade happens now.
    Get well soon Tuff Juice, I enjoyed watching you work

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    What prospects other than a one legged Frenchman do they have to trade?

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    What prospects other than a one legged Frenchman do they have to trade?
    I would think Cuban won't trade Roddy, but who knows really.
    Expiring contracts pretty much, Stevenson, Butler, Chandler.

    We all know Chandler isn't going anywhere, but you get what i'm sayin

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    seems like haywood and roddy(best trade chip) will get traded

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    I would think Cuban won't trade Roddy, but who knows really.
    Expiring contracts pretty much, Stevenson, Butler, Chandler.

    We all know Chandler isn't going anywhere, but you get what i'm sayin
    Tough break. Carons a good player. I think Stevenson would be a good trade piece, but I don't see a major move coming. Maybe something small

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    seems like haywood and roddy(best trade chip) will get traded
    I don't see Haywood going, the Mavs want and need those 7 footers come playoff time.

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    I don't see Haywood going, the Mavs want and need those 7 footers come playoff time.
    You have 4 of them. I think Cuban would deal Haywood if he finds a good deal, even if he is a 7 footer

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    Haywood has a negative trade value with his big contract.

    A player I can see Mavs trading for and who is available is Rip Hamilton. They could even get him without trading away Butler and Chandler.

    A trade like: Stevenson + Barea + Jones + Ajinça + Mahinmi + Novak for Hamilton + Maxiell + Bynum + Summers + McGrady will work salary wise. I think it's a good trade fro both sides.

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    You have 4 of them. I think Cuban would deal Haywood if he finds a good deal, even if he is a 7 footer
    Only two of them stand a chance at fetching anything of value. Probably only one given Haywood's fat contract.

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    Looks like he's out for the season according to this.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...vericks-butler

    DALLAS (AP)—Mavericks forward Caron Butler(notes) has undergone surgery to repair a torn tendon in his right knee and will likely miss the rest of the season.

    His absence will be quite a blow for Dallas, which was second in the Western Conference at 25-8 going into a game against Portland on Tuesday night.

    Butler was Dallas’ third-leading scorer, averaging 14 points and 4.1 rebounds in almost 30 minutes per game. He was an inside-out force the Mavs relied on to draw defenses from leading scorer Dirk Nowitzki(notes).

    It could be a costly injury for Butler because he will become a free agent this summer.

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    Can anyone recall a trade involving an injured out-for-the-season player?

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    Haywood has a negative trade value with his big contract.

    A player I can see Mavs trading for and who is available is Rip Hamilton. They could even get him without trading away Butler and Chandler.

    A trade like: Stevenson + Barea + Jones + Ajinça + Mahinmi + Novak for Hamilton + Maxiell + Bynum + Summers + McGrady will work salary wise. I think it's a good trade fro both sides.
    I think the most likely scenario in a trade would be for Dallas to package butler/Stevenson/Roddy, a pick or two, cash for player x... Like captain jack, possibly Gerald Wallace if mj bites. Also... Ignite for the right player like melo, I could see us offering Chandler, Roddy, stevenson, ajincia, picks and cash

    Or Dallas just waits 2-3 weeks for roddy's return.
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    Can anyone recall a trade involving an injured out-for-the-season player?
    It's going back a ways, but Terrell Brandon is the only guy I can think of.

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    Haywood has a negative trade value with his big contract.

    A player I can see Mavs trading for and who is available is Rip Hamilton. They could even get him without trading away Butler and Chandler.

    A trade like: Stevenson + Barea + Jones + Ajinça + Mahinmi + Novak for Hamilton + Maxiell + Bynum + Summers + McGrady will work salary wise. I think it's a good trade fro both sides.
    I really don't see how that's a good trade for Detroit..

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