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    been saying for a long time that one of the reasons i'm not "sold" on Hill is that he's a completely different player when he plays in away games. he has much less of an impact on the game when he's playing away, and it has been a significant theme not only from George Hill's prespective but the team's prespective. tonight the Spurs needed GHill3 and he didn't show up. i think it's a deserved criticism for a guy that doesn't get much on this site, for whatever reason it's downplayed.

    here's to hoping that George Hill can step up on the road when it matters most in the playoffs because the Spurs will need that out of their 6th man.

    thoughts?

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    Well I agree because after every George Hill miss I kept saying that he is on the road. He needs to raise his confidence on the road because he play SOFT a lot of the time when he is not in the AT&T center,

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    An excellent observation. Here are Hill's home v/s road numbers:

    Home: 13.3 PPG, 53% FG, 50% 3FG
    Road: 8.5 PPG, 41% FG, 27% 3FG

    That's a huge drop-off.

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    An excellent observation. Here are Hill's home v/s road numbers:

    Home: 13.3 PPG, 53% FG, 50% 3FG
    Road: 8.5 PPG, 41% FG, 27% 3FG

    That's a huge drop-off.
    I knew there was a difference, but WOW that is a bigger difference than I thought.

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    An excellent observation. Here are Hill's home v/s road numbers:

    Home: 13.3 PPG, 53% FG, 50% 3FG
    Road: 8.5 PPG, 41% FG, 27% 3FG

    That's a huge drop-off.

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    Good thread Mingus.

    George really needs to learn to play better away from home, otherwise he's a huge liability.

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    An excellent observation. Here are Hill's home v/s road numbers:

    Home: 13.3 PPG, 53% FG, 50% 3FG
    Road: 8.5 PPG, 41% FG, 27% 3FG

    That's a huge drop-off.
    Wow...I really didn't think it was that bad

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    He's been like this from day 1.

    Nothing new here.

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    It's easier to hate on Bonner, tbh

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    An excellent observation. Here are Hill's home v/s road numbers:

    Home: 13.3 PPG, 53% FG, 50% 3FG
    Road: 8.5 PPG, 41% FG, 27% 3FG

    That's a huge drop-off.
    am I reading the stats wrong or does he also average nearly 50% more turnovers and 25% fewer steals on the road?

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    am I reading the stats wrong or does he also average nearly 50% more turnovers and 25% fewer steals on the road?
    You're right on those - he does average more TOs and less steals on the road. The only thing that doesn't drop off on the road is the rebounding and assists. But everything else tanks badly.

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    getting home court adavange may be a bigger key then I thought

    hill does play well in dallas though

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    It's not a secret that role players are always better at home than on the road.

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    Hill is a cerebral player, almost to a fault. His game is almost based entirely on his rhythm.

    If Hill is on a roll, he is active on both ends of the floor, he has good decision make, and his shot is beautiful.

    If Hill is off, though, he takes himself way out of it. He starts making poor decisions, missing shots, and generally becomes a s of the player he can be. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have a very short memory either, so one bad game can throw him into a slump.

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    Hill is a cerebral player, almost to a fault. His game is almost based entirely on his rhythm.

    If Hill is on a roll, he is active on both ends of the floor, he has good decision make, and his shot is beautiful.

    If Hill is off, though, he takes himself way out of it. He starts making poor decisions, missing shots, and generally becomes a s of the player he can be. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have a very short memory either, so one bad game can throw him into a slump.
    this.

    bad game from hill today had about 2 open corner 3's, and dumb turnover at the end.

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    When a player hits a shot, he's a monster. When he misses, he's an oaf. Same player, same shot, different result.

    Manu missed a few shots tonight, but had he hit those, he would have been hailed as the greatest. If he misses those looks at the end of the game, he's shooting too much.

    Hitting your shots makes anything you do look right to the untrained eye and vice versa.

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    When a player hits a shot, he's a monster. When he misses, he's an oaf. Same player, same shot, different result.

    Manu missed a few shots tonight, but had he hit those, he would have been hailed as the greatest. If he misses those looks at the end of the game, he's shooting too much.

    Hitting your shots makes anything you do look right to the untrained eye and vice versa.
    Hi, Kobe.

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    Its kinda hard to evaluate Hill. For a few games he looks like a up and coming star, then he regresses for a few games. Hope its just a learning curve for him.

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    Same pattern in year 1 and year 2.

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    Defenitely deserving of some criticism for this game, though he had a pretty solid outing against the knicks.

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    Hmm this is a pretty good thread. I had no idea the discrepenacy was so large between his home and road games. Something to keep an eye on for the rest of the season. If this is a consistent problem - that HCA will be that much more valuable.

    When a player hits a shot, he's a monster. When he misses, he's an oaf. Same player, same shot, different result.

    Manu missed a few shots tonight, but had he hit those, he would have been hailed as the greatest. If he misses those looks at the end of the game, he's shooting too much.

    Hitting your shots makes anything you do look right to the untrained eye and vice versa.
    Does that mean you agree or disagree with the OP? You always have these ambiguous posts and not entirely sure there's any relevance to the topic.

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    When a player hits a shot, he's a monster. When he misses, he's an oaf. Same player, same shot, different result.

    Manu missed a few shots tonight, but had he hit those, he would have been hailed as the greatest. If he misses those looks at the end of the game, he's shooting too much.

    Hitting your shots makes anything you do look right to the untrained eye and vice versa.
    Yes, but the difference between Hill and Manu is that for every dumb, stupid play that Manu makes, he hustles and comes up with a defensive play to make up for that dumb, stupid mistake. He doesn't shrivel up and disappear. He keeps at it.

    Funny how confidence is so important to the players. Look at how lost Manu was for most of last season until after ASB. It took him a long time to regain his confidence. Just makes me appreciate Duncan more - he hasn't gone through looooong stretches (months) like that throughout his career.

    Big difference in home vs away for Hill - makes HCA throughout that much more important. Wish now that Popovich hadn't given up on the Knicks game - they are the type of team that might crumble in crunch time - young and inexperienced.

    Still feel that Popovich should have put Hill on Rondo instead - maybe his long arms would have deflected some of Rondo's many assists. Hill is just terrible at going around screens - Parker is better.

    Pop needs to play Splitter more - better defense against Davis might have been the difference - he wouldn't have been able to back down Splitter as he did Bonner. If Cs weren't leaving Bonner open, he shouldn't be on the court as he's useless on defense. Spurs aren't winning anything if the defense doesn't improve. They have enough offensive weapons.

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    Away games + quick or talented PGs

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    An excellent observation. Here are Hill's home v/s road numbers:

    Home: 13.3 PPG, 53% FG, 50% 3FG
    Road: 8.5 PPG, 41% FG, 27% 3FG

    That's a huge drop-off.
    Sweet Jesus that is a big difference.

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    He should have a good game in Indiana.

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