Speaking of the all time scorers, where the is Duncan?

[ButtHurt Committee]

ty-ass Laker trolls don't even try nowadays.

Career rebounding:
Per game: TD 11.5, KG 10.8
Per 36 mins: TD 11.5, KG 10.5
That's right, Duncan pulls down 1 whole rebound per 36 mins.

Duncan also has significantly higher blocks per game.

As for overall defense, it is difficult to quantify statistically. Duncan led one of the best and most consistent defenses in the league for over decade. Basketball reference tracks Defensive rating, which is a measure of points allowed per 100 possessions when a particular player is in. Duncan is #2 all-time on the all-time career Defensive Rating list. Duncan has 13 all-defensive selections to KG's 10.

If you want to belittle Duncan, comparing him defensively vs other PFs is probably not the way to go. The guy tops the charts both in offensive and defensive efficiency by a decent margin compared to Malone/KG/Barkley etc.

As a troll, your best bet is to re-brand him a center and compare him with Jabbar, Olajuwon and Chamberlain. Anything else is too easy to refute.

With the way Jim has fallen off the cliff he'll be lucky to have a career 18/8 average. I've never seen a guy fall off so fast. Comparing him to true great big men like the ones you named is an insult to those giants. Duncan was just a PF, remember.

[TDfan2007]

LOL at your pathetic ass logic that rings and rings only make a player GREAT.

son according to your logic guys like Karl Malone and Dan Marino are scrubs, but Robert Horry is pure greatness!!!

Lol your assumption that scoring more points makes one player better than another.

Isiah Thomas scored more points than Magic, so he must be the better player.

Fail.

[Fpoonsie]

"Ring smack"

Lol

"All-time scoring lists"

Lol

[FromWayDowntown]

All those guys who actually played the game in the NBA and call Duncan the best to have played the position (Barkley expressly said a couple of weeks ago that Tim Duncan is a better player than he was and has called him the best PF ever) obviously don't know a damn thing about basketball -- they should listen to a bunch of anonymous experts in an internet forum.

I know that's who I listen to.

[TDfan2007]

With the way Jim has fallen off the cliff he'll be lucky to have a career 18/8 average. I've never seen a guy fall off so fast. Comparing him to true great big men like the ones you named is an insult to those giants. Duncan was just a PF, remember.

I love how appropriate it is that your "favorite team" is the Mavs.

Seriously though, if you're going to troll, at least be funny. You're relying too much on your name. I'd get a noticeable shtick too. Just some friendly advice

[TDfan2007]

All those guys who actually played the game in the NBA and call Duncan the best to have played the position (Barkley expressly said a couple of weeks ago that Tim Duncan is a better player than he was and has called him the best PF ever) obviously don't know a damn thing about basketball -- they should listen to a bunch of anonymous experts in an internet forum.

I know that's who I listen to.

Only casual fans/trolls don't give Timmy his due. The rest know what's up. Somebody mentioned this earlier, but a better debate is to turn Tim into a center or just qualify him as a big man and compare him to guys like Jabbar, Chamberlain, and Hakeem.

[Fpoonsie]

(Barkley expressly said a couple of weeks ago that Tim Duncan is a better player than he was and has called him the best PF ever)

FWIW, Barkley's #18 on the hallowed scoring list...

[dimsah]

Is this a question about regular season or playoffs?

[ElNono]

I lift things up and put them down

[Sisk]

yes we do. PM me for what kind of meat.

You should start a thread in the club and share some, I think.

[Tp9gospursgo]

With the way Jim has fallen off the cliff he'll be lucky to have a career 18/8 average. I've never seen a guy fall off so fast. Comparing him to true great big men like the ones you named is an insult to those giants. Duncan was just a PF, remember.

He's also playing a career low in minutes. And if he doesn't have to score 22 a game to win why would he? I don't consider him falling off or anything like that. He can still put up big numbers when hes needed to.

[Tp9gospursgo]

lol your assumption that scoring more points makes one player better than another.

Isiah thomas scored more points than magic, so he must be the better player.

Fail.

+1

[ButtHurt Committee]

He's also playing a career low in minutes. And if he doesn't have to score 22 a game to win why would he? I don't consider him falling off or anything like that. He can still put up big numbers when hes needed to.

Suuuuuuure.

[mavs>spurs]

as much of a scoring machine as kobe is, he's only the 9th of all time.

[Giuseppe]

Unless there is a decree out of NYC/Stern (protecting Jabbar's record) he won't stop till he surpasses Jabbar.

[frodo]

spurs are a defense oriented team imho. if tim played for warriors or suns he would have been a top3 scorer of all time no doubt

[LakerHater]

... at least we got the Saints.

So much for that !!!!

[spurs10]

Malone was twice the player Duncan ever was.

[jjktkk]

Yeah , you better tuck your tail.

You tell em Malibu. Represent.

[jjktkk]

You all are good at pulling stats out the ass. What was he great at?

The most important stat Malibu. Wins.

[PGDynasty24]

As Usual BrHornet getting under the skins of Spurs fans

[The Batman]

lol you silly cuck ..

no one is taking away the fact that Duncan has done well in the playoffs. he has had great TEAM success, but as an individual performer he's just not up there like all of the other all time greats. the simple fact that he isn't even in the top 10 all time scorers at the Forward-Center position is downright pathetic and says enough.

Before Duncan got to S.A. , the Spurs were known as chokers and losers. Duncan turned them into winners.

[DMC]

oh yea that's right he's not even in the top 10 all time scorers at his own damn position lol. I'll admit I knew that he wasn't even anywhere near the top, but I had no idea just how far down he was. there are 12 Forward/Centers with more points than him! 12!

None with more rings.... son.

[TheSpursFNRule]

Lol. I didn't read any of this. One quick question...who would you rather have on your team with 5 seconds to go in an NBA Playoff game down by a point or 2. Anyone who says Malone over Duncan should be killed.

[frodo]

malone made the finals twice but lost both times. jordan would have won 10 rings in a row had he not retired in 94 and 98. just because malone hadn't won a ring it doesn't mean he was not as great a player as duncan imho.

Jordan is the GOAT tbqh, probably better than duncan & malone combined