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If I was running a team (Owner) I would choose the player that would bring the largest ROI and that's Kobe and MJ. Sales, tickets sold, jerseys, merchandise, shoes and championships etc...not shaving cream.
Doesn't take a stat geek to recognize that Kobe shoots 25% on game winners.
And GMs and coaches are prone to hyperbole just like anyone else. Their opinions are not fact.
What is fact (supported by numbers) is that Kobe is a relatively ordinary performer in the clutch, and not this messiah you morons make him to be.
And yeah, I'm getting trolled in my own thread by regulating your fanboy ass.
Every one knows you have Kobe's jammed so far up your ass that you can see his nuts when you open your mouth, so what you're doing in this thread is not trolling, it's your legitimate, ed opinion.
Oh, and lol highlights.
If I was running a team (Owner) I would choose the player that would bring the largest ROI and that's Kobe and MJ. Sales, tickets sold, jerseys, merchandise, shoes and championships etc...not shaving cream.
Yup, didn't take too long for you to resort to gay smack. Oh, and I delayed my highlight appointment to have a nice discussion regarding a role player vs Kobe.
All that means is the Lakers beat the Spurs in the playoffs. And the Suns beat the Spurs last year. Your ed logic would give credence to the idea that Nash is a better player than Kobe because he holds a 2-1 lead over him in playoff matchups.
Teams beating teams have nothing to do with comparing individual players. Again, try to keep up.
Then how come the Spurs are leading the Lakers in attendance this year
And yet a role player is a better playoff performer than Kobe.
What does that say about Kobe?
He's more overrated than I initially thought.
LOL, you just ed up your entire thread with this statement. I need to keep up eh....
How did that role player do in the playoffs the last 3 years when the Lakers made it to the finals.And yet a role player is a better playoff performer than Kobe.
What does that say about Kobe?
He's more overrated than I initially thought.
Are you dense....look at the Laker road games the past decade and you see Kobe jerseys and sold out arenas. Globally there isn't a bigger star or draw.Then how come the Spurs are leading the Lakers in attendance this year
Are you that ing stupid?
You're the one who brought team vs. team matchups into this thread. The premise of this thread is comparing individual players using each player's individual statistics.
Head-to-head record against each other is irrelevant. If we follow that idiot logic, we'd have to say that Isiah Thomas is better than Jordan because "he" holds a 3-1 lead over Jordan in the playoffs.
What do ticket and merchandise sales have to do with comparing players on the hardwood?
If you want to compare Duncan and Kobe's fiscal impact, start a thread about it. This thread is comparing how they each performed in the playoffs.
Quit going off topic.
This is your quote, not mine. Like I said earlier, what has TD done statistically in the last 3 years, reg season and playoffs that eclipsed Kobe....See, stats are a funny thing eh?And Kobe's the better individual player if the game is 1 on 1, but last I checked, the NBA is 5 on 5 basketball. The "skills" argument, which is what you're alluding to, is weak. Kevin Garnett has more "skills" than Shaq, but he is not the better team basketball player.
Too bad the last 3 years doesn't equal an entire career, which is what we're comparing.
Fail again, Highlights.
And lol Canadian Lakers fan.
I'm happy you brought that up. The ENTIRE career is paramount and while TD spends the last few years as a role player it will be interesting to see how he fares in the history of the game, let alone being compared to a top 5 player in Kobe.
Just shows you Kobe's universal appeal.
No, it shows that you're a bandwagoning asshole.
Yes it is.
And Duncan's career playoff stats and accomplishments are thus far better than Kobe's.
And I guess spending the last few years of your career as a role player is better than the first few years of your career, like Kobe was up until 2005. Still, Kobe's spent more time in the NBA as a role-player than Duncan has. And with his knee the way it is, Kobe's probably hitting role player status as early as next year.
Duncan 13 seasons as the main man on his team. Kobe 7 seasons.
I can live with that.
Keep telling yourself that, when did you become a spur fan, because prior to 05 I recall Kobe having a few decent games vs your team....sorry for the late response, I was too busy watching Kobe score 61 points vs the Knicks and the 81 point game vs the raps.
Kobe's a good player, so it stands to reason he's going to play well most of the time. He just hasn't played as well as Duncan in the playoffs up until this point. He seems to sputter in the Finals, where most legitimate all-time greats flourish.
Kobe's top 15 all time, and there ain't nothing wrong in that. Quite an accomplishment.
And why are you watching those games? Thought regular season doesn't matter to Lakers fans?
Really, 7 finals appearances to 4. What has TD done in the playoffs the last 3 years. You keep skirting that question.
Why is it relevant? My thread has to do with both player's entire careers, not arbitrarily selected years.
If you want to compare both players over the last 3 years, make a thread about it.
It is relevant, your posted the ESPN top 50 performances in the finals. That a pretty big cherry pick is it not. Since Kobe went to the finals 3 more times in his career, he tops out. How many points did TD get in the finals the last 3 years. What's his per, TS% and rebounding stats. Oh yeah, 0.
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