Um, Family Guy is ing re ed. Give me Seinfeld any day over Family Guy. Give me basically anything over Family Guy.
And Tosh.0 is funny but it's a complete ripoff of The Soup which is better anyways.
Not to make any assumptions but I've found that unless you get most of the obscure references, you don't appreciate Family Guy all its worth. Those two shows are the only ones I've ever seen that makes me gasp for breath and tears come down my eye.
Nothing is an original concept anymore. Really, all TV has been done already. The Soup isn't a groundbreaking concept. And I really have a hard time thinking that with, what, 2 different hosts, they were both funnier commentators than Daniel Tosh?
Although the new Family Guys I've been DVR'ing lately have mostly been pretty dumb.
The Seinfeld jokes themselves aren't really funny. George plays real life frogger with an arcade machine. He's too cheap to buy expensive envelopes and kills his fiance. Kramer stuffs asian men in his drawer's. Sounds like a poor grade school skit in theory. Those guys made it work but the material or concept really isn't that funny. Media today needs to be faster paced. Kids want funny, a split second and there browsing youtube video's or what not. Sitcoms like seinfeld are very SLOW to develop.
But that's what's so great about Seinfeld, you had to invest a little time into the show to get the payoff. Every episode was funny, but they were always funnier in the end than when they started. Now days, everything tries to do everything right away. When you break down a joke to it's core, almost all of them aren't funny. But the punchline is only funny if journey to get there is done right. Seinfeld always set up the joke in such a way that the punchline always delivered.
I think it was the Sportsguy who was talking to a stand up about how these days guys do standup, get famous quickly and then get movie deals and TV deals and fail miserably at it. The reasoning between the two was that standups like Seinfeld and Steve Martin and all others was that they worked clubs and did live shows for so long, it honed their delivery and ability to set up a joke. They became great comedians. And as such, they were able to transfer that process to their TV shows (or movies in Martin's case). Now days, see how long it takes for a sitcom to deliver it's first real joke. I guarantee you won't get far into the show before it tries.
I was listening to Adam Carolla and he was talking about how movies love to just jump into things (action movies start with a big shootout and what not). The movies these days don't take time to get the viewer invested in the characters and the story first.
About a month after hearing that, I watched Risky Business, and was surprised about how slow the movie develops. It takes about 30 minutes (by my estimate although I wasn't really paying attention) to really "start" the movie. But the movie is so good, you don't really notice, unless you've been watching the ADD stuff that comes out these days.
Finally, the problem with Family Guy is that it appears that Seth McFarlane is so intent on putting in obscure jokes that the show appears as if he and the writers are only putting out a show for them. It isn't to terribly funny at all. It has it's moments, but overall, I've seen better, more obscure and subtle jokes in the Simpsons over the years that have stood up better than anything Family Guy (or American Dad or the Cleveland Show for that matter) ave every done.
Oh, and the "that reminds me of the time..." and the Conway Twitty stuff is just so stupid and over played now it's ridiculous. I haven't watched an episode of Family Guy in over a year, and I'm probably not missing much.
Seinfeld was great. I still watch it almost every nigth and I still laugh. I know it wasn't for everyone though. I don't watch many of the current sit-coms.
Speaking of TV shows that required an attention span . . . I miss Twin Peaks. That's damn good coffee!
I just re-watched the entire series for the first time since it was new. There's a noticeable decline in the second season after ABC forced them to reveal Laura's killer, but the pilot, the first 17 episodes, and the last six or so episodes are ing genius.
Sad to say I've never seen one episode of Twin Peaks. Same for the movie.
I thought it was funny back in the day too. I still think of the sun whenever i see a nice rack. One glance then look away! But like I said, I also thought Full House was watchable too. Watch a rerun sometime, I'll seriously watch Sesame Street or Thomas than that, its like banging your head against the wall.
I understand the comment about obscure jokes and how Family Guy crams them in there too much. My time is much too valuable to sit through 30 minutes and truely get one or two good chuckle. I'm over 30 now, it takes a LOT for me to ROFL and those shows do it.
Bugs Bunny has some pretty good obscure chuckles too but Family Guy and Tosh have the ones that make me think "I thought I was the only one who caught that"
The "Wild Thing Rick Vaughn" comment about the dart player still makes me gasp for air EVERY TIME I see it.
the references in family guy aren't obscure in the least bit. They're incredibly obvious and not the least bit clever, which is why the show blows.
Joel McHale >>>>>>> Daniel Tosh. I like Tosh, but he's not as good.
Damn, I guess music really is subjective. Have you heard that song Aqueous Transmission by Incubus? That chorus melody, imo is pretty nice. I used to hate Linkin Park and the like, but that "Pandora Radio" app thing on my android re-introduced me to them. Some pretty nice rhythms which I guess you could call somewhat "heavy" grooves off of the "Hybrid Theory" album, which imho were very catchy riffs and .
good job, you found one decent song.
Damn, I forgot all about Incubus and the load of suck they dropped on everyone in the 90's. PARDON MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHILE I BURST INTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FLAMES
As for the late 90's and early oh's, alot of the mainstream music wasn't too bad. I think some of the mainstream music is pretty good today as well. I'm not gonna lie, sometimes I love me some over polished sounding music. Breaking Benjamin has some pretty catchy melodies such as that one off the radio "I Will Not Bow". I also heard an acoustic album of the band Seether which was ing awesome. Only "SOME" of the autotuned music I like as well. I think that song "Only God Knows Why" had autotune on it and I'm thinkin it came out around the late 90's??
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Agree. The movie isn't that great, but the series is some of Lynch's best work. Like Cucking Funt said, it does bog down in the middle, but the first season is superb and they wrap it up really well.
Anything Incubus did after Science was in the end. It was just the same rehashed formula over and over. I actually liked Make Yourself but it hardly stands the test of time. As for Linkin Park, well, Limp Bizkit had songs that had harmonies and catchy grooves (the bass line for Rearranged is quite catchy) but no one would call it timeless or ground breaking. Again, and I liked Significant Other.
I'm in the same boat here: just turned 22, about to start my final semester of college and my life is great, yet I'm in a funk. I think it's a combination of the uncertainty of the future and the "lasts": last time to visit SA and Sacramento for a while (two places I love), last time to be in college, see college friends, not pay bills, etc.
The worst part, though, is the cyclical aspect: Once I realized I was bored/sad/whatever, it just made me sadder. I get frustrated at myself just like you guys are getting frustrated with us "dumb kids" for being bored at such a young age. And yet nothing seems to be turning around.
Just gotta hang in there and start being spontaneous, I guess.
I don't really miss anything music/TV/movie-wise from my youth, though. :P
I'm not saying that you need to have a Master's to get the laughs. But your typical minimum wage worker gets lost in a lot of the jokes. You know that as well as I do. Seinfeld by no means is clever. Jerry Seinfeld isn't even that funny as a stand up comedian.
If McHale is so immensely better why is his ratings worse?
That's putting it nicely. Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me pretty much sucks, flat out. And that's coming from a pretty big Lynch fan. I'm normally willing to go to whatever crazy dream world he wants to take me to, but that film is just a jumbled mess.
This is one ridiculous post. Minimum wage worker doesn't get it? That is just plain stupid. Most of my friends are not college educated and they loved Seinfeld.
I've always hated Family Guy as being nothing more than a rip off of The Simpsons.
Family Guy to me overkills all their jokes and also brings in jokes that do nothing to advance the plot of the show.
One absolute one I remember is when Peter Griffin says something about it reminds me of when I botched Tara Reids boob job. Since when is Peter a plastic surgeon? And what does flashing back to that joke have to do with the show. At least The Simpsons jokes while some were obscure were built into the storyline of the episode.
As far as their jokes go, they often times make a joke with a punchline and then repeat it 5-6 times immediately afterward in case you "didn't get it" I suppose like it's supposed to be funny but it really is just annoying.
The funniest thing about Family Guy is Peter fighting the chicken. Other than that, I can do without if I had to.
To me, you know a joke holds up over time when it's an episode that you've seen many times, you know the joke is coming and when it happens, you still laugh your ass off. Seinfeld and The Simpsons still do that for me after all these years.
If you believe the only funny moment in Family Guy is the Peter Griffin-Chicken fight scene, you are completely delusional.
I agree, Seinfield ain't all that funny. However, it is a good show tbh.
I learned that the hard way by being forced to watch seinfield with my parents after dinner all throughout my younger years.
Where do you go to school and what's your major?
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