And, we're off...

[Yonivore]

Congresswoman prepares gun-control bill

[Duff McCartney]

"Tragedy has been and will always be with us. Somewhere right now, evil people are planning evil things. All of us will do everything meaningful, everything we can do to prevent it, but each horrible act can’t become an axe for opportunists to cleave the very Bill of Rights that binds us. America must stop this predictable pattern of reaction. When an isolated terrible event occurs, our phones ring demanding that the NRA explain the inexplicable. Why us? Because their story needs a villain. … That is not our role in American society and we will not be forced to play it. … Now, if you disagree that’s your right, I respect that, but we will not relinquish it, or be silenced about it, or be told ‘do not come here, you are unwelcome in your own land.’ "

[baseline bum]

Gun control is re ed. If someone really wants to kill in a criminal act, then obviously the law will mean jack to him. If my wife and kid were gunned down in a public place, I think I'd have the opposite reaction of McCarthy: e.g., I'd wish there was a legally armed citizen that could perhaps have stopped it or at least taken out the murderer before the situation could get any worse.

[ElNono]

This one is full of fail also:

Pennsylvania Rep. Robert Brady, a Democrat from Philadelphia, told CNN that he also plans to take legislative action. He will introduce a bill that would make it a crime for anyone to use language or symbols that could be seen as threatening or violent against a federal official, including a member of Congress.

There's already laws to handle actual treats. I'm not sure what else this guy is thinking about. Maybe the Palin's crosshairs? Re ed really.

[Yonivore]

This one is full of fail also:

Pennsylvania Rep. Robert Brady, a Democrat from Philadelphia, told CNN that he also plans to take legislative action. He will introduce a bill that would make it a crime for anyone to use language or symbols that could be seen as threatening or violent against a federal official, including a member of Congress.

There's already laws to handle actual treats. I'm not sure what else this guy is thinking about. Maybe the Palin's crosshairs? Re ed really.

I guess President Obama will have to drop his "...bring a gun..." to a knife fight rhetoric as well.

[ElNono]

I think the vitriol doesn't help. From both sides.
I also agree that a mentally challenged people like that shouldn't be allowed to buy/operate firearms. Heck, I wouldn't want them even driving on the street.

The problem is that whenever control laws like this are proposed, they almost always overreach.

[boutons_deux]

Current gun laws are NOT enforced, full of loop holes and non-compliance, then there is the gun shows and private sellers.

Guns and ammo and NRA are above about $$$, not about the 2nd Amendment.

As gunned-down John Lennon sang, Happiness is a Warm Fat Wallet.

[Yonivore]

I think the vitriol doesn't help. From both sides.

That's a separate argument given there is absolutely no proof the vitriol from either side contributed to this act.

I also agree that a mentally challenged people like that shouldn't be allowed to buy/operate firearms. Heck, I wouldn't want them even driving on the street.

The problem is that whenever control laws like this are proposed, they almost always overreach.

Yep.

[ElNono]

That's a separate argument given there is absolutely no proof the vitriol from either side contributed to this act.

I don't want to cir scribe it to just this incident. The fact that people has to resort to verbal abuse, not just violence, when discussing politics, and that such behavior is encouraged almost daily, by both the media and politicians, is truly sad. An educated society should know better than that.

[Yonivore]

I don't want to cir scribe it to just this incident. The fact that people has to resort to verbal abuse, not just violence, when discussing politics, and that such behavior is encouraged almost daily, not just by the media but also politicians, is truly sad. An educated society should know better than that.

Congressmen used to duel and beat the crap out of each other in the House Chamber.

Americans used to stand in the town square and spread the most foul and vicious lies about their political opponents and politicians they hated.

As violence against public officials go, we're in a relatively mild period. Anybody remember the 60's?

The rhetoric is no where the levels it has been in the past. And, in this case, I think the Tea Party message is being characterized as hateful simply because the Left cannot respond to the arguments they're making except to say they're being hateful, that they're being racists because Obama is black, and on and on an on.

No basis for the statements. None. In fact, they tried to generated a basis when that black Congressman claimed he was spat upon and called ###### by a Tea Party crowd. Never happened.

I'm satisfied all but the most rabid leftists are seeing through this ruse.

[Giuseppe]

Congressmen used to duel and beat the crap out of each other in the House Chamber.

Americans used to stand in the town square and spread the most foul and vicious lies about their political opponents and politicians they hated.

As violence against public officials go, we're in a relatively mild period. Anybody remember the 60's?

The rhetoric is no where the levels it has been in the past. And, in this case, I think the Tea Party message is being characterized as hateful simply because the Left cannot respond to the arguments they're making except to say they're being hateful, that they're being racists because Obama is black, and on and on an on.

No basis for the statements. None. In fact, they tried to generated a basis when that black Congressman claimed he was spat upon and called ###### by a Tea Party crowd. Never happened.

I'm satisfied all but the most rabid leftists are seeing through this ruse.

Matzel, Matzel, good things.

[Yonivore]

Matzel, Matzel, good things.

Hey, Alec! You were good in "Along Came Polly."

[ElNono]

Congressmen used to duel and beat the crap out of each other in the House Chamber.

Americans used to stand in the town square and spread the most foul and vicious lies about their political opponents and politicians they hated.

As violence against public officials go, we're in a relatively mild period. Anybody remember the 60's?

The rhetoric is no where the levels it has been in the past. And, in this case, I think the Tea Party message is being characterized as hateful simply because the Left cannot respond to the arguments they're making except to say they're being hateful, that they're being racists because Obama is black, and on and on an on.

No basis for the statements. None. In fact, they tried to generated a basis when that black Congressman claimed he was spat upon and called ###### by a Tea Party crowd. Never happened.

I'm satisfied all but the most rabid leftists are seeing through this ruse.

We've evolved as a society. Or at least I would like to think we have.
You would hope that we've learned something out of the 60's, and that those episodes of violence, be it physical or otherwise, really lead you nowhere as far as building a better, more cohesive nation.

Yelling at eachother faces might relieve the contemporary anger, but it does absolutely nothing to get things done. If on top of that, some people preach that to be the answer, then we're toast.

[ChumpDumper]

I guess President Obama will have to drop his "...bring a gun..." to a knife fight rhetoric as well.

Which blog gave you that one?

[ducks]

Gun control is re ed. If someone really wants to kill in a criminal act, then obviously the law will mean jack to him. If my wife and kid were gunned down in a public place, I think I'd have the opposite reaction of McCarthy: e.g., I'd wish there was a legally armed citizen that could perhaps have stopped it or at least taken out the murderer before the situation could get any worse.

I heard 2 people fired back at the gunman with their guns

[ducks]

I think the vitriol doesn't help. From both sides.
I also agree that a mentally challenged people like that shouldn't be allowed to buy/operate firearms. Heck, I wouldn't want them even driving on the street.

The problem is that whenever control laws like this are proposed, they almost always overreach.

they should not be but they would get guns on in black market anyhow

[ducks]

Current gun laws are enforced, full of loop holes and non-compliance, then there is the gun shows and private sellers.

Guns and ammo and NRA are above about $$$, not about the 2nd Amendment.

As gunned-down John Lennon sang, Happiness is a Warm Fat Wallet.

is making money wrong?

guns do not kill people


someone has to make money to hire people
you know without money people can not hire someone
then those people that got hired can not pay their bills to give money back to companies so they can pay their people they hire

[ducks]

Current gun laws are enforced, full of loop holes and non-compliance, then there is the gun shows and private sellers.

Guns and ammo and NRA are above about $$$, not about the 2nd Amendment.

As gunned-down John Lennon sang, Happiness is a Warm Fat Wallet.

you know what they are private selllers in selling cars to
and they can be used as weapons to
so why are you not crying about more gov on that to?

[ElNono]

they should not be but they would get guns on in black market anyhow

Then there's something broken that needs to be fixed.

[DJ Mbenga]

bleh. sure there should be a law that says dont give guns to peopel who might be out of it but i thought by now theyd exist. or did this guy get the gun illegaly?

[ElNono]

bleh. sure there should be a law that says dont give guns to peopel who might be out of it but i thought by now theyd exist. or did this guy get the gun illegaly?

The law that would have prevented him buying that gun specifically was left to expire in 2004. He could probably have purchased something else though.

There's obviously a break in the system at some point. Either the background check is not effective or somebody jumped the gun (pun intended).

[Sisk]

[Stringer_Bell]

omg lol i totally got that. "bear arms" like a bear bwahahaha


Rep. Brady's desired legislative move is totally stupid and nothing more than fodder for conspiracy theorists.

[Sisk]

omg lol i totally got that. "bear arms" like a bear bwahahaha


Rep. Brady's desired legislative move is totally stupid and nothing more than fodder for conspiry theorists.

good job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111 11111

[redzero]

She seems knowledgeable.