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This is getting really annoying. I wonder how Melo's teammates & Denver fans feel. They always have a ton of energy in their arena, I wonder if that will change if all this goes down.
Carmelo has to know that, which is why I question if he wants to be with the Nets long term.
This is getting really annoying. I wonder how Melo's teammates & Denver fans feel. They always have a ton of energy in their arena, I wonder if that will change if all this goes down.
the nets will have a nice starting 5 with a decent bench. but that team is 1 player away.
I think he is a moron and can't wait till he is gone. He has given Denver some good years but he flat out quit tonight and im glad he got booed.
I was going to have no problem cheering for him as a Net, but tonight changed my mind
Can't wait to just start rebuilding with the young guys
[shudder]
More like Tony Romo or Philip Rivers.
at least if he comes to the Nets you aren't a Nets fan and don't have to cheer for him, being a Nets fan I'm suckered into cheering for him
let's hope Billups f's up this trade
from what I read this morning on netsdailyI don't see how this doesn't happen because all 3 sides are greatly benefited.
Denver gets a great deal by instantly adding quality youth in Favors/Harris/Morrow with Favors having the potential to be a superstar down the line. On top of all that they get two 1st round draft picks
"Finally (at least for now), there are reports that Devin Harris might be moved immediately by Denver to Portland for Andre Miller or Marcus Camby, both of whom the Trail Blazers are marketing, or even Dallas."
Melo would impact with the Knicks.
He'll simply cash in with the Nets. Hamilton & Billups have forks in 'em.
Stern wonders why every team's fans boo Lebron. Lebron started this . He started the trend of good teams having to trade their best players because that asshole thinks they are too good for your city and team. If I were a Nuggets fan or a Hornets fan, I'd boo the out of Lebron too.
It started long before LeBron did it, Dan....Jabbar goin' to Los Angeles, Bird goin' to Boston, Kobe goin' to Los Angeles, Francis refusing to go north of the border, etc. Once you start down this path it's a slippery slope and it complicates & compromises much that follows.
At least. You're telling me the Nets are 1 player away from being nearly as good as Boston, Miami, or Orlando with that lineup? No way, not even close IMO. They're two good players away from competing even if this trade goes down.
I hate Carmelo Anthony but at least the guy is honest and told the team allready early that he wont resign with them. The window in Denver is closing anyway due to the age of key players.
Denver has now enough time to work something out. Its not that asshole way Bosh choosed, the guy knew at least a year before FA that he wont re-sign in Toronto and yet tried to lie to everyone that he is open to everything.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...%99s-bad-deal/What’s the holdup on ‘Melo deal? Al Harrington’s bad deal.
Kurt Helin
UPDATE 12:53 pm: Here is the latest, from multiple reports, at this time on the still pending Carmelo Anthony trade:
Everything seems to be in Denver’s court, but they continue to tweak offers and try to work out the best deal — they have even pushed the Nets to take on Renaldo Balkman in addition to Al Harrington. Which is the kind of dump of toxic assets the banks did on the government. The Nets, for obvious reasons, not really going for that.
The Pistons are going to get second round picks to go with Troy Murphy (expiring deal) and Johan Petro (they will be stuck with him).
Chauncey Billups is not taking part in Monday’s light practice in Denver, but Anthony and the other people in the trade are.
And can the Nets, having gone this far down the path, really back away from the deal? They are (and their fans are) emotionally invested. Hard to back away once that happens.
10:26 am: This summer, when the Nuggets realized that Chris Anderson and Kenyon Martin would miss the first part of the season, the Nuggets went after Al Harrington to bolster their front line. They got into a little bidding war with the Mavericks and ended up winning it with a five-year, $33 million deal.
Now that contract is standing in the way of a Carmelo Anthony trade, according to Chris Broussard of ESPN on twitter (he tends to be more accurate than a lot of the sharks in the trade rumor waters).
Holdup to NJ-Den-Det trade is that Den wants NJ to take Al Harrington. NJ doesn’t want to b/c Al has 4 yrs, $28 mill left on deal.
Technically, the last two years of that deal are not fully guaranteed (he can be bought out for 50 percent), so think of it as two years, $20 million. Still, nobody really wants that deal. Which is probably why he has been in and out of the rumored variations of this deal.
The proposed trade has Anthony, Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton going to the Nets; while Denver would get Devin Harris, Derrick Favors, Anthony Morrow, two first round picks, and maybe or maybe not Harrington. Detroit would give up Hamilton, who is owed $12.5 million next season, to take on the expiring deal of Troy Murphy this season. There are other picks and parts, but that is the core of the deal.
Harrington was not in the versions of the trade circulating late last night, but Denver seems to have thrown him back in the mix. Which fits with reports that they continually tweak the deal and seem hesitant to pull the trigger. Of course, they can do that so long as New Jersey’s offer is on the table. Nobody has put real pressure on them to make up their minds. Some other thoughts from Broussard.
NJ could try to recruit s 4th team to take Harrington, but their hope is that Den eliminates Harrington request.
NJ will give Detroit a draft pick for taking Petro, not determined whether 1st or 2nd rounder yet.
Billups won’t hold up deal, but sources just told me he will either want a buyout after season or a long-term commitment (extension) from NJ.
Personally, to take on the Johan Petro contract, you’d have to give me a first rounder.
Anthony himself said he didn’t think this trade was about to happen. There are a lot of moving parts, a lot of teams (and players and agents) involved, things never move fast because of that.
So we wait.
What does Bird going to Boston have to do with any of the rest? The Celtics used a technicality no other team considered to draft him a year early.
Denver/Nets could recruit Dallas.
Harris/Harrington/Balkman to Dallas
Butler/Jones/Ajinca/TE to Denver
And additional picks/cash to whoever wants it more...
But, that technicality was only activated that year and then once again outlawed immediately afterward.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...e-else-monday/Carmelo Anthony hints the Knicks may not want him but says little else Monday
Kurt Helin
Carmelo Anthony practiced with the Denver Nuggets Monday — a sign that nothing is imminent — as did everyone else whose name has come up in recent trade talks. The exception was Chauncey Billups (officially due to a headache, which I bet all the trade rumors are for him).
Anthony spoke to the media Monday but sounded more out of the loop on what is going down than you imagine he actually is. There was this one interesting quote though, via the twitter of Chris Tomasson of FanHouse, about the New York Knicks:
“New York is playing well right now. I don’t think they’re looking at me. They wouldn’t want me to come in there and mess what they have up. That’s what I’ve read so.”
The entire island of Manhattan just yelled “WHAT!?!”
You can be sure the Knicks and their fans still want Anthony. Badly (although maybe not Amar’e Stoudemire). But aside that quote you got no real sense of what Anthony is planning other than to suit up for the Nuggets Tuesday (again quotes are via Tomasson). For example, would he sign an extension with the Nets?
“I really don’t know. I’m waiting to see Masai (Ujiri, Denver’s executive vice president of basketball operations) and Josh (Kroenke, the Nuggets president)… They haven’t been here. So I’m just patiently waiting until they get back so I have a sitdown with them.”
“I’m here… Until something happens, I’m a Denver Nugget.”
“I got a game tomorrow against Phoenix. So if I go out there tomorrow thinking about the New Jersey Nets that will disrespectful to myself. That would be disrespectful to this organization and to the fans out there.”
He could be a Nugget for a while longer.
This is a complex, 15-player, three-team trade that keeps evolving. The core of it would send Anthony, Billups and Rip Hamilton to New Jersey; Devin Harris, Derrick Favors, some other players and a couple first round picks to the Nuggets; and Troy Murphy and Johan Petro to the Pistons along with picks. But questions about whether Al Harrington is part, what picks and more continue to be negotiated.
Anthony reiterated again that he didn’t think anything was going to happen this week, saying there was no pressure that makes this have to happen in the next 48 hours. Also, there is no real pressure on the Nuggets to make a move so long as New Jersey’s core deal is still on the table — and the Nets are not likely to pull it off because they want Anthony. They want the Brooklyn native to open the new arena in Brooklyn in two years.
So while there is a lot of heat right now, we could be in this fire for a while. The trading deadline is Feb. 24.
Yeah, they'd be a Dwight Howard or a Derrick Rose away from being a contender.
Carmelo is worried about disrespecting the organization and the fan? After holding the franchise hostage since the summer?
This just seems like a major cluster f*ck. Inexperienced front office coupled with a stubborn player and a crazily motivated (and seemingly acquiescent) suitor just means 2 franchises and 15+ players in a limbo.
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