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messi came runners up to XAVI for world player of the year award, missed out by nearly 1% of the votes, then again...its bs
And why has Messi figured out how to play with Pedro, Villa, Iniesta, Xavi, Alves, etc.? Sometimes you make the most ridiculous arguments trying to defend Maradona.
messi came runners up to XAVI for world player of the year award, missed out by nearly 1% of the votes, then again...its bs
Messi just won Balon d´Or for second consecutive year.
fck messi
Xavi got robbed
Sjneider deserved it too
Last edited by lefty; 01-10-2011 at 04:37 PM.
Would have given it to Xavi, but guess you can't argue with Messi's numbers.
Lol @ people saying Xavi got robbed...... it's actually coaches and players votes.....I'd imagine they know about it..... also... any honest non homer soccer fan would agree on this....its like when playing with friends ... if you won the right to pick first, almost everybody would pick Messi over any player included Xavi and Iniesta.
Probably true, but regardless, this isn't exactly what the award is. The award goes to whomever supposedly performed the best that year, not necessarily the best player. And I agree with whomever said you can't downplay Messi's numbers...they're amazing.
My real reason for responding to this is to put it like this: Lebron can't win MVP every year, but pretty much every non-re would take Lebron first overall. Even though everyone knows his value, he can't win the award 6,7 years in a row through his prime years. Throughout his prime years there's no denying there isn't a more valuable player.
Last edited by ALVAREZ6; 01-10-2011 at 08:31 PM.
In world cup year I think it's faire to give the trophy to the best player of the winning team. There is no compe ion more important than the WC but this is MHO. God knows I hate the spanish NT but they are the best in the world and Xavi is the master piece of the best team in the world.
Messi, for his part, helped Argentina to the quarter-finals of the tournament but, despite making a sizeable contribution to his country’s cause, he did not find the net and was powerless to prevent the 4-0 thrashing at the hands of Germany.
In the Champions League, he was unable to find the net in either leg against Inter as Barca went out at the semi-final stage.
The award, then, seems more in recognition of his immense talent than his success in 2010. On paper, both Sneijder and Xavi have greater cause for recognition; in practice, the international coaches and captains and journalists who voted for the award chose to recognise a man who boasted the greatest ability.
To say Xavi got robbed is to imply Messi didn't deserve it, which is complete bull . Xavi could have easily won it and it would have been justly deserved as well, but that doesn't mean he was robbed. It means the compe ion was tough this year.
Eight of the 20 winners of the FIFA award have come from Barcelona, which also won with Brazilians Romario (1994), Ronaldo (1996 and 1997), Rivaldo (1999) and Ronaldinho.
I'd put it like this..... even winning a WC and Messi sucking (actually Maradona is a moron as a DT) on the WC, on the eyes of most coaches and players, Messi had a better year and was the best player.... imagine if Argentina had a real DT? or if Messi played for Spain (he was close to do so, actually)...... Honestly, when he started, I was sure he would be another prospect and nothing else..... I was wrong, he's freaking awesome, and what's even more scary, is that the guy is only 23.
i thought sneijder wouldver won it, his team won champions league, serie-a, actually inter won the treble didnt they? and lead netherlands to finals at WC
compared to messi who did all in WC, was shut down in CL, arrrg la-liga 2 horse team only.....nothing to boast about even if it wins the la-liga le
Messi deserved it plain and simple, 62 goals in 68 matches, I don't know how many assists, and those saying that he played like crap in the WC didn't see him play or are lying 'cause they don't like Messi, there's a reason he got nominated in the top 10 for best players of the tournament even though his team only made it to the quarterfinals.
Iniesta played half season last year, and Xavi didn't have a particular great WC. The WC had his award and it was won by Forlan. The Golden ball goes for the player that played the best during the whole year, and that was Messi without a question.
Last edited by DAF86; 01-11-2011 at 05:36 AM.
Why the does this forum only allows you to look three pages? I can't quote SAtown calling me a homer for saying that I thought that Messi was going to win the Golden ball.
lol SAtown
that sucks for Xavi, he won't have another chance to win it.
This golden ball argument reminds me of the Lebron/Kobe discussion in the NBA, people confuse individual awards with team accomplishments:
Some people say that Kobe is better than Lebron just 'cause the Lakers were better than the Cavs. Same happens here, people say that Xavi/Iniesta deserved the Golden ball just 'cause Spain was (is) better than Argentina, and in this case is even worse 'cause even though it's the WC it's still only 1 month out of 12, and in that month Xavi and Iniesta weren't even the players that performed better for their team, Villa won a poll in "Marca" (Spanish newspaper) as the best Spanish player of the WC.
Here I'll help you out...
Fabio Cannavaro won the award - Cannavaro! Xavi is definately more deserving using past winners as a measure. World Cup winners tend to have a better chance - Xavi also had club success.
The bottom line is, they better keep voting for Messi for the next half-decade or so. He's not even at his peak so they better not give some other schmuck the award because they're tired of giving it to Messi. I expect Messi to duplicate his totals, while possibly winning the treble with Barca (which would be more impressive than his past year). They had a good excuse to not give it to Messi this year with the WC, they won't have much of a reason for the next few years.
Messi is better than everyone, no big deal, just award the damn man. Same with Lebron, except he s himself to widespread hatred. Don't nobody deny it, Lebron is better than every player in the NBA, and some people pretend to disagree.
Here is how the votes went:
http://www.fifa.com/mm/do ent/clas...r%5ffinalx.pdf
Some interesting ones:
Code:Captains: country voter 5pts 3pts 1pt Brazil De Souza Robson Messi Lionel Xavi Forlán Diego England Rio Ferdinand Sneijder Wesley Iniesta Andrés Xavi France Diarra Alou Iniesta Andrés Xavi Sneijder Wesley Germany Lahm Philipp Iniesta Andrés Sneijder Wesley Messi Lionel Italy Buffon Gianluigi Iniesta Andrés Sneijder Wesley Casillas Iker Netherlands Van Bommel Mark invalid vote invalid vote Schweinsteiger Bastian Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo Xavi Casillas Iker Sneijder Wesley ( that midget) Spain Casillas Iker Robben Arjen Sneijder Wesley Cristiano Ronaldo ( Barca) Sweden Ibrahimovic Zlatan Iniesta Andrés Sneijder Wesley Xavi USA Bocanegra Carlos Xavi Iniesta Andrés Sneijder Wesley Votes by coach (men) England Capello Fabio Iniesta Andrés Xavi Drogba Didier Germany Löw Joachim Xavi Messi Lionel Forlán Diego Italy Prandelli Cesare Sneijder Wesley Iniesta Andrés Messi Lionel Netherlands Van Marwijk Bert invalid vote Messi Lionel Xavi (the dutch don't know how to vote) Spain Del Bosque Vicente Messi Lionel Cristiano Ronaldo Schweinsteiger Bastian media Argentina Sacco Enrique Messi Lionel / Argentina Iniesta Andrés / Spain Forlán Diego / Uruguay (expect nothing but homer vote from argie :)) Netherlands van den Nieuwenhof Frans Iniesta Andrés / Spain Xavi / Spain Sneijder Wesley / Netherlands Portugal Rita Joaquim Xavi / Spain Messi Lionel / Argentina Sneijder Wesley / Netherlands Spain Aguilar Paco Xavi / Spain Messi Lionel / Argentina Sneijder Wesley / Netherlands
Although with that being said, to follow up on my last post and on what resistanze posted, I would be pretty surprised if Messi gets the award a couple of more years consecutively...only because FIFA is way too much of a re ed and corrupt organization. Those ers literally make 95% terrible decisions...so I'd take anything FIFA does, ever, with a tiny grain of salt.
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