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Okay, I looked at your quote. It mentioned right wing extremism. Great.
Now make the connection between Loughner and right wing extremism. Please.
I guess you didn't get the PDF?
Dept. of Homeland SecurityTwo years before the Tucson massacre, the Department of Homeland Security warned in a report that right wing extremism was on the rise and could prompt "lone wolves" to launch attacks. But the agency backed away from the report amid intense criticism from Republicans, including future House Speaker John Boehner.
The report, which warned that the crippled economy and the election of the first black president were “unique drivers for rightwing radicalization and recruitment,” described the rise of “lone wolves and small terrorist cells embracing violent rightwing extremist ideology [as] the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the United States.”
Okay, I looked at your quote. It mentioned right wing extremism. Great.
Now make the connection between Loughner and right wing extremism. Please.
I searched the PDF for Loughner's name. It didn't turn up.
The left has been trying to get this narrative to take root for decades. It ain't flying Dan.
A right-wing extremist incited by the vitriol in Dallas assassinated President Kennedy until, well, it turned out to be a Communist Castro Sympathizer.
More recently, a Tea Partier attempted to blow up Time Square until, well, it turned out to be an Islamic Extremist.
The jig is up, Dan...only nuts like you are still pushing the narrative.
The only violence, I know of, where American partisan political rhetoric has played a role is the near fatal beating of Ken Gladney.
Tea baggers have very close ties to violent anti-immigrant organizations
Faux NewsAccording to a law enforcement memo based on information provided by DHS and obtained by Fox News, Jared Loughner, the alleged shooter of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, may have been influenced by a pro-white racist organization that publishes an anti-immigration newsletter.
No direct connection, but strong su ion is being direceted at American Renaissance, an organization that Loughner mentioned in some of his internet postings and federal law enforcement officials are investigating Loughner's possible links to the organization. The organization is a monthly publication that promotes a variety of white racial positions.
"The group's ideology is anti government, anti immigration, anti ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government), anti Semitic," according to the memo which goes on to point out that Congressman Giffords is the first Jewish female elected to high office in Arizona. A recent posting on American Renaissance's website on January 7 begins with an article en led: "Exit poll: Whites are Different." The site goes on to list anti-immigration articles. Investigators are also pursuing Loughner's alleged anti-Semitism. [FoxNews.com, 1/9/11]
In a separate post, Fox News provided excerpts from the memo stating that Giffords was "opposite this group's ideology when it came to immigration debate":
Okay, that's great and all, but what do tea baggers have to do with what Loughner did? Is Loughner a tea bagger?
Mother Jones, another bastion of Conservative Thought, published an interview with one of Loughner's few close friends...
Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords
Read the whole thing. No mention of Loughner's Tea Party bent.Tierney, who's also 22, recalls Loughner complaining about a Giffords event he attended during that period. He's unsure whether it was the same one mentioned in the charges—Loughner "might have gone to some other rallies," he says—but Tierney notes it was a significant moment for Loughner: "He told me that she opened up the floor for questions and he asked a question. The question was, 'What is government if words have no meaning?'"
"He said, 'Can you believe it, they wouldn't answer my question.' Ever since that, he thought she was fake, he had something against her."
Giffords' answer, whatever it was, didn't satisfy Loughner. "He said, 'Can you believe it, they wouldn't answer my question,' and I told him, 'Dude, no one's going to answer that,'" Tierney recalls. "Ever since that, he thought she was fake, he had something against her."
Tierney says he has "no clue" why Loughner might have "shot all those other people." But, he notes, "when I heard Gabrielle Giffords has been shot, I was like 'Oh my God...' For some reason I felt like I knew...I felt like if anyone was going to shoot her, it would be Jared."
That kinda like asking if some of the founding fathers were slave owners because they owned slaves..
Many violent anti-immigrant groups have found a friendly voice to speak with in the tea bagger movement if they disguise their hate for 'brownie' with politically correct speech..
Wait, what are you talking about now? Why are you bringing up the tea party in the first place? This is about Loughner, right? Is there any evidence to suggest that he was pushed over the edge by violent rhetoric?
No but, Nbadan is stuck on stupid. I guess he awaiting orders from the Mother Ship.
Have you even read my last few posts?
YES!
reap what you sow..
I have read your entire posts. You posted about right wing extremists. You posted about tea baggers. You didn't actually post about Loughner though--the person I was asking about.
What about Loughner? Do you have any evidence of what his motives were?
Is this stuff Loughner had on him when he was arrested? No. What they found in a safe at his house were notes and correspondence, relating to Giffords, dating back to 2007.reap what you sow..
Dan. Name one act of violence that has been perpetrated in response to the Tea Party's opposition to President Obama's or President Bush's (remember they got their start when opposing the Bailout signed into law by Bush) agendas.
you said to outlaw people talking on their porch. lol
I should make a thread on this re , MannyIsGod.
Not too long ago he was making fun of me for wanting the country to disallow organizations and "inciteful speech" so it doesn't incite violence among the populace.... so things like this shooting don't happen.
MannyIsGod apparently has had a complete 180, and now finds himself a complete moron. He now agrees with me, even after his "hate cake" posts
These are the things I said that he made fun on August 2010.
and now here he is, saying the country should backlash against people being "irresponsible" with their hate speech because things like this can happen.
The sad part about being wise, is that even when you are correct, it takes some people way too long to realize it.
Road rage incident against someone who had an Obama/Biden bumper sticker? Exactly what was the Tea Party rhetoric behind that assault?
It wasn't the heckler's views, it was the heckling. (by the way, I couldn't find the referenced video at the link.)
The caption says they were fighting over a seat.
From what I read, this is a story on the above photo.
Dan, why was Ken Gladney nearly beat to death?
So if her husband had shot her after walking in on her and a paramour, that would be political?..the fact he shot a politician makes it political.....
at the wing-nuts who are whining about liberals turning this 'political'...it's political because a popular politician was shot...... o?
You know it...because, she's a politician.
Hypocrisy alert!
Sheriff Who Suggested Talk Shows Incited Attack Was Asked by Dems to Apologize for 'Inflammatory' Immigration Remarks
Seems he knew about this nut for quite a while and failed to act.Arizona’s Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, who on Saturday suggested radio and television talk shows were somehow responsible for inciting a man who may be mentally disturbed to kill six people and wound 13 others, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), once blamed policymakers for violence in his county because they had stopped ins utionalizing mentally ill people.
The Democrats must be cringing now that they've allowed the idiot to be the point man on the "blame-the-tea-party" meme.Dupnik also suggested that local schools should check the immigration status of students and that many of the social problems in his county were attributable to illegal immigration--remarks that some fellow Democrats cited as “inflammatory” while demanding an apology from the sheriff.
Additionally, Dupnik once told residents in part of his county to buy guns to protect themselves because he did not believe his department, given its limited resources, could adequately do the job themselves.
Of course, as if that weren't enough hypocrisy...
MoveOn launches campaign against vitriolic language — despite sordid history of using vitriolic language
Here's something for you to digest, Dan.
The progressive “climate of hate:” An illustrated primer, 2000-2010
VIOLENT RHETORIC ON SARAH PALIN FROM NEW YORK TIMES COLUMNIST CHARLES BLOW
“violent rhetoric” and JournoList.
DEATH THREATS AGAINST BUSH AT PROTESTS IGNORED FOR YEARS.
Sarah Palin hanged in effigy during 2008 campaign.
I know you're slow. I know you can't make very important distinctions. I know its not your fault you can't comprehend certain things.
I should make a thread on this re , MannyIsGod.
Not too long ago he was making fun of me for wanting the country to disallow organizations and "inciteful speech" so it doesn't incite violence among the populace.... so things like this shooting don't happen.
MannyIsGod apparently has had a complete 180, and now finds himself a complete moron. He now agrees with me, even after his "hate cake" posts
These are the things I said that he made fun on August 2010.
and now here he is, saying the country should backlash against people being "irresponsible" with their hate speech because things like this can happen.
The sad part about being wise, is that even when you are correct, it takes some people way too long to realize it.
You want it to be illegal. Do I?
I'll give you a few months to mull that over.
Thanks.
MH may not be back for a few months. I doubt he'll be alive to the distinction then, either.
(That was a weird little jag he went on.)
Anti government
"Anti government"
oops, please don't be so obvious.
(libertarian) currency rants, paranoia (his was maybe real, the right's is certainly fabricated).
yes, Yoni, the poor, defenseless, screwed victimized right.
The right is always and honorably elevating the level of national political/social discourse while the center and left is always spewing hate, lies, violence, slander, paranoia.
False equivalence, as always.
Mic e Malkin?
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