Why wouldn't I be back, and why wouldn't I be alive? Please explain
And the distinction is irrelevant. It's semantics. The essence of the argument is what I am getting at, and it's the same. However, one is effective in stopping it, and the other is a "public backlash" garbage that wouldn't change anything.
The feeling is the same. It shouldn't be allowed. I just have enough balls and intelligence to take the next step. Anything lower than that won't fix it.
If you disagree, then you need another few months to realize the rest of it. You've come halfway already.
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Is that it? He shares one thing in common with right wing extremists, therefore making him one?
This is too rich. The reaching that is being done to connect this mentally unstable pothead, "conscience dreamer," who love Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto to right wing extremism is truly hilarious.
People playing the blame game before the bodies are even cold. That's politics for ya.
You're young and stupid, but eventually, you'll realize that it will take a Cons utional amendment to overturn free speech, which is damn near impossible to pull of in this fractious age, and that making something illegal doesn't stop it, it only drives it underground to fester and grow.Why wouldn't I be back, and why wouldn't I be alive? Please explain
And the distinction is irrelevant. It's semantics. The essence of the argument is what I am getting at, and it's the same. However, one is effective in stopping it, and the other is a "public backlash" garbage that wouldn't change anything.
The feeling is the same. It shouldn't be allowed. I just have enough balls and intelligence to take the next step. Anything lower than that won't fix it.
If you disagree, then you need another few months to realize the rest of it. You've come halfway already.
campaign -- A series of military operations undertaken to achieve a large-scale objective during a war
war room
battleground states
Politics is full of war metaphors, so Palin's "crosshairs" is nothing new. Even Daily Kos site used a "bullseye" metaphor back in 2008 when they "targeted" Giffords for defeat.
Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose a## to kick.“
Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”.
Barry Obama
“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
...followed by...
"What I want to do, though, is channel our anger in a constructive way.”
(Not that the stupid rhetoric doesn't come from that side too. But if you're going to post excerpts, post them in context)
ha! Crazy mass murderers don't do context.
How bout when Hussein Obama advised his mob to bring a gun to trump our knives?
Since when does context matter to the right-wing in this country?
There is a narrative to be told, dammit!
Of course, this thread is all about that, and I am just as guilty as anyone on the left for pushing the particular narrative concerning the overall tone of right-wing rhetoric.
That said, there is a line between the rather deliberate act of only using half a quote to make your case, a rather obvious attempt to use half-truths to mislead, and generally suspecting that *somehow* the tone of rhetoric in this country might make such things more likely.
In this case, it seems fairly obvious that this guy is a drugged/whacked out nutbag of no particular political stripe and with genuine mental problems.
I still am personally convinced that the general level of anti-goverment vitriol on the right will make some slightly deranged rightie somewhere out of the tens of millions snap at some point and do something quite obviously politically motivated and murderous.
In any given population there is always the crazy segment, and encouraging them to be more crazy/angry is not the best way to go.
He was quoting from a movie, goober. "that's the chicago way", to finish the quote, a reference to the violence of the Al Capone era.
References to violence are stupid no matter who does them. Easy.
That said, I am not going to really hold someone accountable for telling his supporters to get out there and "fight" for what they believe in.
That's the thing about crazy people. They don't do what you tell them to.Since when does context matter to the right-wing in this country?
There is a narrative to be told, dammit!
Of course, this thread is all about that, and I am just as guilty as anyone on the left for pushing the particular narrative concerning the overall tone of right-wing rhetoric.
That said, there is a line between the rather deliberate act of only using half a quote to make your case, a rather obvious attempt to use half-truths to mislead, and generally suspecting that *somehow* the tone of rhetoric in this country might make such things more likely.
In this case, it seems fairly obvious that this guy is a drugged/whacked out nutbag of no particular political stripe and with genuine mental problems.
I still am personally convinced that the general level of anti-goverment vitriol on the right will make some slightly deranged rightie somewhere out of the tens of millions snap at some point and do something quite obviously politically motivated and murderous.
In any given population there is always the crazy segment, and encouraging them to be more crazy/angry is not the best way to go.
Me: Hey there Mr. Crazy Nutbar Shooting Guy. I really wish you'd just calm down and not carry that gun around.
Mr. CNSG: Your squirrel is wearing pink parachute pants. Now let's Mambo.
This dude is tougher than I am.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/to...onderful-city/
Counter protest is being organized... Good. They (westboro) have targeted the 9 year old's funeral as their top priority.
"They're planning an "angel action" -- with 8- by 10-foot "angel wings" worn by participants and used to shield mourners from pickets."
Link to full story
So is the MSM. They've been beating this drum for two years. That's why Mayor Bloomberg and Katie Couric have exchanges like this, without having all the facts:
KATIE COURIC: Law enforcement officials don't know who left the Nissan Pathfinder behind, but, at this point, the mayor believes the suspect acted alone.
MAYOR MICHAEL BLOOMBERG: If I had to guess 25 cents, this would be exactly that, somebody-
COURIC TO BLOOMBERG: A home-grown?
BLOOMBERG: Home-grown, maybe a mentally deranged person or somebody with a political agenda that doesn't like the health care bill or something. It could be anything.
(strangely, they never thought about an Islamic extremist)
The left has been spewing this meme for two years. Sadly, people like Manny not only sip this Kool Aid, they chug it.
Shooter registered as independent and didn't vote in 2008 election.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the...s-a-regis.html
Paranoia of authority? What a loon. You'd think this nutcase was born in a country whose historical foundation this was a part of. These foreign thinking anti-government looneytunes are real outsiders tbh.
They're not crosshairs--they're "surveyor's symbols."
its funny how fox is attacking the president before he's even said anything.
general level of anti-goverment vitriol on the rightYou, of all people, accusing anyone of drinking the Kool aid.
I got my recommended daily allowance of hypocrisy already, and it isn't even noon.
They were questioning about the possibility that it was home grown thats why there was no mention of an Islamic extremist in this short piece.
Yeah. Couric was really interested in exploring those avenues. That's why she cut off Bloomberg mid-sentence to add "home-grown".
Free speech, man. The Cons ution isn't just a piece of paper.
No, I haven't. I'm completely against further speech restrictions.
These liberals don't realize, his party is the occult.
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